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F C P ',,,. Mst v "'»;v:_ ',' § weenesss V' ® « en o + ";".. es 1"% p ! _ He claimed that the Conserva-- Freeman. | F | tives bad always given Cathollcs their just Mr. FRASER pointed out that that paper | | & | rights, but they would gl';:hem 'n: :lc;u.h &l:"t:') organ of Sir John MaciAonald, ' | 7 | _ Mr, BETAUNE said thak politically he 5 | bad no sympathy with the Ocango or-- Mr, MERRICK said he was speaking from | ganizavior, but the question was what a religious standpoint. He denicd that the 19 should a member do as a matter of right. Bill was introduced for political reasons, ¥4) Some time ago this Assembly had passed a If the Orangemen were as strong as the | Biii1 fcr the incorporation of the Orange Roman Catholios, and would vote against 6 body, He had always been of ovinilon thas apy Government which would not pass these F | the Attcrney--General had been constitutlon-- Bills, the result would be a very different | f ally right in the course he had takon with ore, He hoped in voting no hon, member regard to thatfl but the Nfllfid:'ld b::n would be influenced by prejadice. that the been _ accor e ; Aos aia P 5j yie ) . Pioe, a, o en nient e pein t aont | then, should it not pass ? Bfio one doubted! Nays, 47 * y A953 but the opposition to the Bill sprang out o T s ' a reaurd for the Romau Catholio Caurcher, ~---- | . gfam--atum, Applebr tom . nilt, Bettme. The varlous Romun Catholic corporations , Gralam (Frontengc), & Haney, Lern. Led. $ + tbhrougtout lt:hathdrmn' atd been | g'rer:rhli::a:fl::nfgafi: (.\'l;:-:éoct) r.'?é;a.};: E::!.eld\l':h" ;iac':-. endowed w corpora! powers rick, Movk Mostyn, Prest n, Richardson, Robinson, by Protestant Parliaments, and it any of | Roseveer, Tooley, Wigle, Wilis,--28, f tl!en bodies had b:en refused the vor{ Ast NAys.--Mewrs -- Ballantyne. Bishop, Chisholm, which was now asked for a Protestant body, g: kke. (I:"(:;fgl.k),octl:;:;e(vgggil:zfi;)l .gg(!'o. goum, would they not have continued to agitate Toron,; Graham (LoimUion), in Harmant, + I for so dm310 an act of jastice* Why, then, I;':: i(iltlf, lf:y,m;iv( d:fixltoflnzin':;:."%ag:, L'vb)n;l,"g:)tn:: | should not the Orarge body have what they McCr--ney, McLeod, McMahon, Mowat, O'D noghue. | wanted, in a direcs. straightforward way ? vp e s s oo ' If the Orangemen had not come seeking for gRer iprlmet Etrlke!'. Watt'el'worm'; Wldddie.lgj Wa.. { incorporation bsfore the G!olmul %i!h 'l.; F'ams, Wiison, Wood.--47, E* "] passed, and betore the ouse ha a s | rn'ity' P"'du fl"h. ""ld A: t 'hg '82/'[;; tl\;g(jm&;{:o nf."' paired with Mr. Gow | were now seeking, wou ave sa n . tkey should have taken advantage of the Mr, NMOWAT said it had been the inten-- g reneral Act. _ If there was anything in the flr-l.x of the Tressursr to introduce anier. l t | Orarge body in the shaps o! a political or. plain to--day the Government measers with -- genization the way to make them invocvous * regard to tavern licenses, Asit as | %sn to give them justice, There was not on late, the statement would be m:(;e ::-:a:: -- | the face of the gioba to.day so powerful au row. 'The Government were still without | organization tor political purpones--taking the eomplete i»formation which was neo:s-- | the worst mean'ng of the word "political'"-- kary before they brought down their neasure | than the Roman Catholic Church. He look: in reference to railways, but they dally . ed at the ma'ter from a standpoint of right expected it. He moved the adjournmsnt of | anrd justlce; it would perhaps ba 6nore to his | the House,. advsntage if he voted against the Orangemsn, The H ad; # | as u"if bad always votol: 'g:!l;i.t hh'ln---bnt * (w a I | he believed the vote he intended to give was | | one for an actof simple jusl:loo. tHe b;'lieved it | PRIVATE BH'LE COMMITTEE. | would have been a good thing for this ccun-- METHODIST UNTON, | t * | | gl{:f, the Bill had been granted at the very k 'hMX ych.on 'inh'oduoed the Bill to amend | | h j the Act cting t s% rch o Mr. CROOKS said he regretted very much _ Camd:. reepecting Ske Métbedis® OB sh of the cou:se whish the hou. member for Stor-- * | ons " hok op $he Srookel id ; the Bul, which propoecd to add the Gllowing | | :;1":&" 'mm:':h':m:}: ;l::"m'l:: ":35:;': --| proviso to the Aos respeoting the Metl(x'odll:% | with the well--known principles of the Lib Cb.?mh in Canada:-- ' ersl party in England as well as hore. 1: . * Provided always, that if any congrega-- wes one of the fundamental princ!ples of th 1t tion in connection or communion with any of party to ignore denomjuational distluctlons, the eaid Churches shall, at a meeting of the to repress any tendency towards the unlon olf :;":h':"nl!"%:"&n. retgutll:r:ly':i:l!led avcording Church and Ssate, and to regard as of chis constitution o congregation, | importance the secuiar ":lntoreltc ofl tlla,e peo-- l.;r::ng'::;lc:ng'h?ll; Sl::hrgltwlth which it 4 le, He was propa to satend by the oted, wo years after § grlnoiplel of the Rsform party, to allow the said union takes place, decide by a ma-- | & the ircorporation of voluntary assoclations. Jority of the votes of thosa who, by the con-- | ;f But this Orange body was not an association | stitution of the said congregation or the prasz | i which could in any sense be regarded as a | bice of the said Charch with which it is con-- f' voluntary one. He was furtkermora pxop:lr:d | ?::;':3. are :Dgfledt?;vot:olt !:uoh 'xgeatlng, } to say, as a Canadian and a Reformer, and in | C ze no! enter into the said union dolngy so to accept tho full responsibility of | ::.:t:h;lluent th(;:"'fflim. thent lmti l);: such ' ' the statement, that he could not concede | congregational propsrty of tha ssid ' that the principles of the Orange body were congregation shali remain unaffected by this | ' those which would act beneficial'y to the in-- mth(;r by m G fof the provhi:'n- thereof; but | event of any c> is~ent | | w;: 'S?N'fl;t:'l';n::ly& h:(z:l::::mppbrw ' :"8 wid ':O?"-id dai:v ; futare time orgsléi:fl:n:; | | « + T o erter into an kere to th id O'h the pr!m;lplc:h of fthe d{{dom.: ('.'th:flo Church, then from th:t t!nre ofes:.clh x"le':'otl;q C '";b' l"d d. a to.m ro no ttegl"! 1 o tion beirg come to, this Asct and tha provi-- vote be intended to give as a matter of fa sions thereof shall apply to the property of , vour to that Jenomination olr3 for l{ar of th; such congregation," Py property o Roman Cathotio Church. Buat he opposed | 6 * the motion simply because he bolieved that | He said the Act of last sesrion in referonce these noutloo-re{lglonl sooieties, whether | to the union of the Methodiss Churches Protestant or Cathollo, were detrimental« to | had been unrjust, becavse it providea the intereats of the country. He disapproved that all the property of both bodies skould | P f 4 x entirely of theso sovictles, and, as ba bandeq over so the United Caurch, The | j a _ Reformer, know, as did muny | | congregatio=s in the Manvers Circals belong. \ ! members of that party, the opposition | ing to the New Coraexion Churen had their 1 which Orangemen had in the past offered to | property handeA over wishout their cansent | the Liberals of Cavada, Ho did not think t? a body haviug a dificrent pollty from that f that the Orange Socisty had much influencs of tke Methodist New Connexion C:uroh. 1 in resisting th:h encrlt;acll:menh oo'd the hRonélfi Th'°¥ d;::" opnose the pu:aga of thé'Afl, } l Catholic Cbursh. they such a Bi simply auge they were not aware of its ; as the present, they 'onldg':)l probabliity beivg passed until last summer, but if they | zoon have to pass anothor of the same kind bad opposed it th«re could ba no doubt that f for the Roman Catholic body,and he thought a clanse simdiar to this, which was a tran-- the multiplication of such organizations io' lp: :f !2: cg:lell:l the § é&tl:: nnll(:;.\g the would be calamitous, (Hear, hear. Preabyte urch, would have been in-- Mr, SEXTON said he( thot;ght th)o Orange -- serted, P body should not ask for a special Bill for Mr., HAarov.--Was It not a condition of their incorporation until they had shown-- ! the agreement of the Presbyterian Obnrches ? which they had not yet done--that they Mr, Armour® could not say as to that, - could '?23:'* what they wanted under the | Mr, Lavo®r said the Act did not change F general Ao ' the trust deeds at all, but lefs them as they Mr. MERRICK, in roply, defendad the were hbefore the union of the Methodist e Orange lmtihl;'tlougalm: the Ol'l"lo'llslml ':of ' Thurches. | , genticmen who spoken, especially the : \ o member for North Essex-- In proof that the l "Mri Armour said there was a change in \ uoL enora! had Nlcl d"i' oo Cathols | e disposisiion of the property, The Metho-- | P i im --Uen 3 ashouo . | di«t Chuorch of Canada was not so liberal in i influence in reserving the former Orange l | its polity _ as the New _ Conuexion %' Bills, he quoted an artlocle in the Canadian | Church, ~ If this olause would have bean