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" r "M " '9 Fi Tr .. ' - ._ Rr", r _.,1i" "rtr" ' in: _ . . _ . F Ji '.' ' contended that they should make mturnsot' Canada College Committee came before the . C their receipts and expenditure way your House, it would bo Been that the case ' ttd that the House should see theni Was an urgent one-that for more i C , ~ rly during the session. He thought than ten years the _Collego had . itil the Government should control the failed to answer its requirements as _ . ' ill . expenditure of these institutionIJust as thov an institution for the education of youth. , I . » controlled that of the Public Schools. From. It was badly ventilated, badly '1igytd, m- r I, the fact that no person had been appointed Convenient, and in no sense tt credit to the _ g all to the otiicc of Bursar of the University, re- Province. Itg accommodation for boarding I t" w, cently vacated, he inferred that the Govern- Pupil" from the Province at large wt.'." ve17 , ' mom was going to assume the control or Psumcient, though from time to timo tt - W' . tite University endowment fund. had been "increased-for It College Gilli-1 I tTT n Ly', . . . ' . mittee never forgot that trey were ca i iecllror/i'l"25i',,'d"e11 tcect'g1dJ,"mnootitt, 1pon to discharge a Provincial turner." ' but one or two points in it should ht; simply one tmvards parents residing m 1.0- - . ' . t. ' . . . . route. The Upper Canada College Commit- modified. 'lhe second part, with relerence .. . _ .. . . . , t _ . . . . bee, devised a scheme by which the entire vt othe expcr:diture of money on new struc- build' . tl . ' "d and accom- ' ' tures, was inapplicable ; for new structures , . mg was gran. y PtP""1' t "t ' , ' h Pc..' . , dation was provided for fifty additional , - ad not been crccbul, but what had been my; , '.. II t t th Province at , done was to make an addition to Mit ents from a p,,?.f, s O 0 . . ' I " . . . , . , an entire, cost of $38,000. And they had I , . .1 the main buildingpf Lppr'r Canada Col. secured what was on all hands admitted to p t , , ' ' t lcge, and orhyr ltr,'.,'),',),"";,'"'":','),'),::?,": be the best educational structure in Ontario [l, i E masters' houses. That expression of the :0. the "pundit"? of some 348,000 they , I w . . _ ' . rad new a provincial Institution capable of . r ih' motion, he proposed, should he altered to disch: uvi , it d tie f an years to N' _ 'id , ' menevs spent on additions toand pcrma- C.- 'fl""),,",, P. u. "a or ma y . , a l , ", in. . ." . . . . l.. . . Come. The Committee of Senate had care- , J. 'lt' . 3' nent unprowments of the existing Upper , full ' . f slit' r, m . 't _ . - w Canada College buildings." There had F yconsidcred the proprietyo 8." tng . e u r . I " b . T, " , . ' Upper Canada College property with a View a g - .. ecu no permanent 1tuprovt'tncntts made to If ti , odi b ild ' 1 _ 1 any University pretniscs. The expression l.' Tic. mg newand more comm P1NP' - _ z, . " mom-vs borrowed" should, strictly streak- ', Ings nearer the centre of the city, but it was i f H ing, be." moucysadvanced tor the purposes , 'tl/Crt,', it? 2',d't,'r,'gfnb)', t! It 5:21:02" fi l ' of that building." dis 2"" P. ee or many "at" 0e t o l l , , . . pose, of it for an amount which would eu- , Mr. LAUDE1t-.Thtttis borrowing money. able the institution to carry on its work I ' Mr. CROOKS said it was not borrowing without either having to come to this Legis- l in the ordinary sense of the term, but sim- l hum-e for aid, or otherwise incur- ( ply tttt overdraft. granted by the banker of; ring financial embarrassments. The con- . . tho College. It was further desirable that cluslon of the experienced men who - . . that part of the motion calling for Orders in formed that Committee, was strongly I 'i _ Council should include the reports recom- in favour of the plan which had been , t i mending the improvements on which adopttd by the Government and successful- _ , f ' these Orders were founded. The hon. lycarried into execution. Until it could r". member for East Grey wished some cxplana- be shown that the provisions of the Irtnck8 "sl l , tionwith reference to the management of Act with regard to the College had failed of , , J, this trust property. There was no their purpose, he did not think it would be i i t doubt of the importance of this mat- in the interest of the institution that any Cl , tor. There was no doubt that the so- change should take place. The finances of I kia, Il.', plicntion of the endowment. fund and th; the College had been managed with the a? Income from it, both in respect to the greatest economy; indeed, the endowment , "titagi-'il' Provincial University and Upper t'zurnda was of so limited th character that. they had ' I I , r College, she rid be very can-fully run :idcrwi been obliged to practise economy to a. de- , by the rcpresvntlditis of the people in the grce that almost interfered with cfticierwy. , ii House. in the old l'nl'linlzictit oft'tvuvla,in it was of the utmost importance , I 4 1852-3, Sir Francis llliit'ltrl laid down a that such an institution should be I ", . scheme with the view, to some extent, of sc- carefully maintained and handed down . if parading the manngcmcr t of tilt: financial unimpaired in its ctliciency for the benetit , B I affairs of the Uninrsity from matters sclus of such young Canadians as might desire to _ l lactic. He left the permanent fund under avail themselves of the kind of education it l , the control of the G'ovroumwtit, and man- was intended mallard. He was willing that ,, ' l _ aged by an olli, " c,rxllud the hursar, the fullest information should begiven hon. , and the Statute which was passcd members regarding the management of the ' ' ' "uthorir,cd tho cmploytormr of that fund ; and it would be seen when the papers _ " ' fund, suljcct to (Int-rs in Council, f, r were brought down that the expenditure 'jr, , permanent improvements. Tl" nnreurtz upon the institution had been made in . I l i which from time to time these nstttutions strict accordance with the mode which had ' ldrew for current vxpenditurv. were also lo l been adopted in the Act. Tho whole of , i 1 be defined by i)rdvrs in Council, and when the expenditure was in the hands of the 'l ' the details of this expenditure were placed Government, and must be dealt with by I . , _ I before the lleusc, it would be seen tnatevery [ Order in Council, except that portion which , 1 F item of expenditure was properly and satis- , was dealt with by the Committee r factorily made. 'l he ovcr-c.xpumdiiuru' of' of Senate for current expenditure. The re.. _ , i, upwards of 3230,00" in 1874 was due to per- i sult of any overdraft would simply he to , . niancnt improvcincnts tru. icaiicular pur- 2 curtailthe salaries ot professors and orhcts , "" poses, made hya distinct Urdcr in Council. Rvise limit the expenditure, so that the , r l There was no proper ground for the charge ', greatest economy was practised. ', ' 1 made by the hon. member for East Grey Mr. MACDOUGALL (Simcoe) said that ', I , with rctcrencc to the accounts. ly bur- I the feeling of the Government secured to i _ sar's accounts ly?? regularly submitted to I have been in the past that it was unneces- , the J/lt,et,eyy/t-G)ytr1oIr, but from some i sary to give tho people of this Province any . , _ oversight in the treasury Department they , information regarding the expenditure of i were ttot forwarded for the information ot i money in connection withthe Upper Canada , '/ _ _ the House since Confederation; but College. They had only brought dorm the ll _ the bursar had complied with the modicum of information they had inst l sixth ."ct'fm of the University A'ct. received from the Minister of Education to. _ i i , requiring mm tourmhe A report. All "Hit day when the hon.member for East Grey had t S , I had been done with respect to the expcndr- given notice early in the session of the _ . ture or money ty mak'lug necessary rm. motion now before the House. Sinhe Con.. i ' . " movements on lip"? f,ana,d,1 College had _ federation there had never been anything ' I we been quite. constitutional. there had been l in the shape of rw,,rultw reports of the num. l, , w . no bor.rowi.ny,ot money ou.the credit of the _ ber of pupils at the College, the character of t I , " " lyopyty of tite College; ittt bankers had; the. work that was done, the cost of edu.' ' . simply agreed to "mum" t.iuclt sums "8 cation per head, and any information they . . n If might be required at a certain rate of Inter- i could get on these points was of a wry il 7.173., est and on the st/cali/tyy which the barrh _ meagre character. The hon. gentleman had i 1 r. f 33"?" . held on the odor/tscat) fund, "tll the. LP?" appeared to argue that as the government IE") would be in a position to recoup use". the of the institution was 1vgnlated by an old F , u, College saved by the tmnsaction .at lcast law, and that as the Government had error. i l i , ' one per cent. of the cord of the". n"?."'"" vised great care in following the provisions i i [ ments. When the report ot the Upptu' of that law, therefore there should I i be no change. He (Mr. Mncdougall) i , contended that it was not onlv '