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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 30 Jan 1878, p. 6

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Mr. HAY will he wan not Bur" that they had not l Wm" u little too far in the Inatlrrol ropmuvntuliuu ( in Mum- "sports. The twople Ill ht, l'ullllly were of 1 opinion that more \vu-rc ultog' ther too many mom- [ burs in the Home, aud lu-lim'ml that the bu~inexs of I tho country could he dotte will: more expedition and l u-('onomy it the numln-r wcrl- reduced. Still he 'lp-lievcd the nvw diotricta under diwttstslott requirml largv-r repriisotstatiort. (Hoar. hour.) Altm- referring i to the val unnum- of Algom , he amid the true polity for the nettlomout of that motion was by building oolonlntlou mull, Ind everything should he don. to induct foreign owl- talim to pine than money in such ION". "0 out cooled that botlu money be": undo tand out abould be cloud " on lnduoomont to 'dlllMll to invest their money In this direction. The county was capable of lupportlnn hundreds of mould. of people, omit! the mango-dons he had thrown out were acted upon the comm, would be wall "mod in the coum ot no you". (Hour, but). Mr. DAWSON said that it could not be claimed that the-e were no causes of discontent existing in Algoma, or that all the wants of that district had been met. All the members of the House Wore of course the representatives of the Province at large, including Algoma. but he could not agree with the Attorney-General that they were the representatives of Algoma in particular. "on. members who had spoken of Algonia had Mrtllnly done so in a friendly spirit; still he was afraid that the ideas of hon. members ended at the great lattes, and then the custom shore of Lake Huron was practically the western boundary of Ontario. The people of Al ma, however, claimed fair representation, Mi" they were not to be put oft, The question would come up again next session, and would continue to come up until justice was done, otherwise there might arise a cry for a separate Province. llHMr. Dawson) was glad to hear the leader of the Opposition acquiesce in the Vit'w that representation should not he based on population alone, but on territorial extent also. He had not, however, as was insinuated, been able to obtain ex- travagant grants for Alumna. That district had yielded a very large "venue, and all the expendi- ture so far within it did not amount to the interest of the sums recon-ml trout it. He would, of course, at the request ot the Government, withdraw his resolutions for tlwpnment. lie was ted that the matter had been so fully and fairly I "sctvocsl, and he waa sure that tho report of tins dis- mission would give great satisfaction in Algoma. Mr. PAXTON offered the following amendment '.-- " That the Committee bu instructed an the same time to consider the propriety ot fiving mammal repre- actuation in tltiirHotue to he district of Multan and Parry Spud." Mr.CREIGHT0N Idvocated additional "frown. union for Algoma. He museum, huwevor,t at the whole lyltmn of n-preuntution of the country should be remodelled. By a proper distribution of the eotutituettvies they could perform the buniuou of the country with fewer members, and he hoped that Algoma would secure more reprosentuivos by res-distribution rather than by increasing the total number of nut- in the House. (Hear, hour.) Mr. MILLER wished to mo having when one. 0 " tut "Madmen! but out oi order. n the 'iatstion I" "a! decl'ared been. defeated together on the 'too' ox the Home when A private member introduced each a manure. He thought the Government had made I mistake when they had changed the representation of the peo- pie to whet it wan " present. Mr. HUNTER pointed out the great importance of Algoma, and urged that the mpr.rteetttatios of that district, indefatigable and cup-No u be WM, should not be oxpccted to attend ',1'gltl,yfp/ to it: warm. (Hurar,hen.) "the hon. gout 0mm (Mr.Dorsony were to travel the whole year no could not mi! .11 hie cow. ltituants, and he thought it would only In fair if the hon. Attorney-lieucral had ullowod thll matter to go to a Committee. If "Nanny, he could take the question, under cottsidevatlon utter receiving a re port. (flea, hear.) Mr. LYON also oxpatiated on the Importance of the nation under discussion, and augmented that if tho Attorney-General did not we hil WRy to gum a Committee he. should, at my "to. send out a Com- mission!» enquire into tho talcum: of Algoma. (Heat, hear.) If Algoma bad two other remnants- tiveis.posumitng tho intelligence end energy out. present membor, the peopla of tha district would have nil the represtsutatitra they could desire. (Hoar, hear.) Mr. CLARKE (Norfolk) after referringtothe size and importance of Algoma, remarked that he did not same with the Government's going to the coun- try at present. There were parts ot Algoms so be- nighted politically that they could only iroturn s Tory, but he bad hopes of their reformation in the near future. (Cheers) After what happened yest- terdav, he did not despair even of Nova tiootia--tMt 1ookedator a bright future for that Province. (Choors.) There were [good Tdi',',',' why the elections should hekept separate in lacuna, and he wee in favour of the division suggested in the motion. Algoms was rich in minerals as well " agriculture, end its devel. opment would give animpetus to the whole trade of the West. (Hear, hear.) It was only right that such an important section should hsve more then one reprtnstattativts in this House. Referring to the deepening of the Knministiquis open. ing, he challenged the Minister of Pub- lie Works to justity the expenditure in that direction. He was conmlont the Dominion Govom- ment would undertake this improvement, and losve to the Ontario Government the duty of making those roads which would be useful to the immigrants they were inviting to that district. (Checrs.) Mr. PATTERSON (Essex) supported the motion, holding that the inoqunlltles of representation of the Province generally would not be any mentor than at present by giving Aluomn three members. The western district ot the Province had by no moms I fair representation comp-red with the tsttBurn por- tion, and he considered the Government ought to deal with the general question. At guy rue it wu not right that n important matter of this kind should have Men left to n prints member. (Hear, hen.) Mr. mx-mx wished to mink-"w In. manhunt, but there being objection. l: nu voted down. The motion was docluod lost on u division. Mr. MACDOUGALL said he always understood the 4t1ormtr-0tsnerat to contend that since he passed the Administration of Justieo Act he had nearly assimilated the system to that which existed inErighuut. But they were given to understand now that there was I great dlffertrneo-that the Court of Chancery had on exclusive, . dill'crent jurisdiction over certain subjects than thi: other Courts. He questioned the statement that the expenses of the Court ot Chancery were no greater than those of the other Courts. He thought that perhaps "the House were to ask for A return with regard to this Court it would be found that there was no good reason for the opinion Vthe hon. gentleman seemed to entertnin of the ' Court of Chancery. The opinion of the country was very docidv-dly in favour of doing away withthis I Pourt, this legal mill, which ground thom over again after they had been once ground by the lower courts. If the present Government dill not make a great refinm in regard to this Court they would soon find themselves succeeded by tlroso who would. _ l Mr. DHAUUN said that the law nspocting "our {tors Inn administrators should he chungedsous I to make thom otticem of the 1J9ttrt'JttrrinirJurhrdieiion ', I over the particulsr estate. Creditors of odeceased ( person should tilt, their claims with the assignee I who could declareudividend, if there was one. The , present "stern involved enormous expense, 1 great delay 3nd trouble, sud in the case i Mr. LAUDER laid that-in 1889, while the old Gov- ernment wan in power, they had moved for a return respecting this Court, but when the " Chancery Gov- orument " can. in they Lad stopped its tune. he Inppoled. Mr. MOWAY laid tUt tho hon. gentleman was Simply 'tfleeting on Ms own friends, " they had boon nearly three you" in ottitxt the: the return was and toe, (Hour, hear, and laughter.) Tho Item then pulled, u did the following .'-. Court of Quun'l Bench, $9,520. Court "Common Plan, $5,360. On the item Superior J udgea nnd Court ot Apped, $15,610, Mr. CAMERON comphined that the Court of Ap. ppal was prevented from performing in proper func- 2lf, by it: badger being required to attend the um. Mr. McMAlll)N said ho found by his experience in Chancery, that ho could get hm justice " a water coll than any otlterCourt in the country. (Laugh- ter.) The opinion of the people val in favour of 111'liit,ind the procedure in that Court, and thus reducing t o oxpemo. - ,V,V,VJ .-'. var-lulu, I]!!! III til" + ofany ordinuy left the ropert w" onerdly eaten up before, it got t Jeu' the Jon". fl might be well Also in make, the county judge or some other ottieer the executor for the estate- of into-total un- til probate or letters of administration Were obtained. Mr. MOWAT nid that to far u could be anthem-d front the reroute for the member fur South Simcoe, the reform he proposed was simply to change the mane of the Court of Chancery. home of the lungeuionl undo by the hon. member for lienfrew seemed to he for "his. end he would be happy to consider them be fore next session. The reason there were Io men! applications in a Chancery one we. beenqu one one In Chancery really involved a large number of cues. Mr. MACDUUGALL said he understood that the Common Law Courts had been given praotically the some jurisdiction as the Court of Chancery by the Administration of Justice Act. Mr MOWAT replied that they had sportion of the jurisdiction properly belonging to the Court of Chancery, but not the whole. As the Administrator ate-tote. larger sums went into the latter Court, hut he contended that, comparatively speaking, the costs were not greater in the Court of Chlncery than in the others. The cost of the machinery was greater because it exercised jurisdiction not our- cised by the Common Law Courts. Mr. MOWAT said than was not the slightest foundation for that tstatement. The reason why the oxpenle: lrpt'arud greater was became the jurisdic- tion was of an entirely dithsremt chm-actor. Mr MACDOUGALL enquired how it was that while tha two common-law Courts cost $14,800, tho Court of Chane"), which had only three Judges while the other. had six, cost $20,345. The time would come when the people would demand the reason of this. He called tho attention of the Home to the fact that the Chancery law was expensive when compared with the Common Law. . Mr. WOOD replied that all paper, with the near tion ofa small quantity of a particular kind, was purchased by tender. The item was panned. On Court of Chancory, $20,343, Mr. MOWAT explained that the only inn-cam in this item was in the salary of the Clerk ofAccnunts. In order to show the large amount of work perform- ed by this officer, he mentioned that the total Amount of mam-y undistributed in tho Court of Chancery was $727,948 82. There was $388,544 invested in Do- minion Mocks; $086,802 had [wen paid into the Court during the you, and $1,046.38 had been paid out, The item passed. On Court of Queen's Bench. $9,520, Mr. WOOD laid the report of the Agricultural College would be down to-morrow. Mr. PA'BDEE said he expected to be thin to dir tribute the Crown Land: roport tounorrow. This, he believed, was tho only important report not in the hands of members. The. House then went into Committee of Supply, Mr. Clarks, (Wellington) in the chair. Un Legislation, $131,360. Mr, LAUDHIt enquired in what manner the lup- ply of printing paper and stationery w" obtained. SUPPLY. On motion to go into Supply, Mr. CAMERON said tho House had no further in. formation than when they udjouruod Int night in ! the expectation, as he believed, that more depart. I mental reports would be down. It was not one"; the thing for the Government to go on with the esti- matel at "my poasible moment intend ot pushing forward tho legislation of the Home.

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