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.& a . CBP f v'_ ",;Q,k, \ uC : t i+ -- w4 + House. _ f | | Mr. FRASER--I ' T heun F * may say that I have | TK P AdEE: Sa(w ®, e Ond tyb 6 + P C 6 5 h + s E. Mr,; T Ab*blflll;---whefl,',",{."?fiw *fi"' ' just le _arch that no increases were paid for public? ~* ~ * C (R CR 18 & t.:le printing of the year 1875, and I make 'Mr. FRASER said he was reading from t'mt correction at once, so that the hon. o bnags o bak gentleman may shape his arguments ac-- the Sessional. Orders of 1877. cordingly, (Cheers and laughter | _ Mr, LAUDER said the order must have Mr S'(;(.)'I'T was Yetr lgdz er.y . | been brought down last session, and been Flvoids y glad to hear the ' | f mesdia h statement, but the hon. Commissioner of T | published during the recess. Fublic Works 1 s : fBASEI_E body khows that 'ublic Works mad com_aumcd considerable Mr. FRASER--Everybody kno hat. time in trying to convince the House that Mr. MACDOUGALL--Does _ the hon, it was not wrong to pay this moncy in 1875. | gentleman say that order in Council was (Opposition cheers.) Now, at the end of | laid before the Mouse ? the discussion, he had corrected what he Mr. FRASER said it was not formally had been saying. In reply to Mr. Lauder, ¢ laid before the House, but in the discus-- Mr, -- FRASER _ repeated his last X sions that took place in the House it was statement, and said the extra claims & { pcr{cd.!) wel! understood that the order in of Messrs. }[1.1"1,(-,-' Rogc" & Co. wore still f Council was passed, made by the firm and still disputed by the I Mr. (ODONOGHUE thought the hon. | | Government, ( member for North (Girey was more anxious | Mr. LAUDER observed that the last ; for political capital in this matter, and the | statement of Mr. Notman, Queen's Printer f hon (f'.,nmn'lss.imu-l: of Public Works for the to the Public Accounts Committee last year I d(.f.-l.,c('. of the Government than for the was, that he had rgpcatcdly brought the 3 & public interest. (!.:m.j;lvtc_r npd vh'_'m'h'_.) He | matter under the notice of the Government, ; 1 allegod that the public printing of this Pro-- | and had not yet received final instructions / - {' vince could be done at least one--third cheap-- as to the payment of the balance claimed " m . er by other firms in the city than by Messrs, by Messrs. Hunter, Rose, & Co. He [ Hunter, Rose, & Co. If the increased am-- thought the head of the Public Works De-- | ount l"}d been given to the labourers who partment should take the respoasibility of | . -- worked for{that firm] there might be some settling these claims speedily, J justificati [ it, but, inste: f doing th: +m sn 4 [ rvimag: mt shareg i ho. ow Ti us w ob o Mr. CLARKE (Wellington) showed that | they dismissed the men, and put the girls 3 h ocz r * A y h Mr. Lauder was present at the Public Ac-- in their places, paying them a smaller rate X + Saks en m epal *y.%e h | counts Committee, both when the printing and pulting the increased amount of the con-- | a A ¢ 5 ue rays prc c m» 4306 ol accounts were passed and when the minutes tract in their own vbockets. He had no desire | f the meeting at which They were passed to injure Messtrs, Hunter, Rose, & Co., but ")'.' '.'j ]'("1' {)utl ud m# lcYn u;)l l'd:"fl he thought the Government had no right to ero contirmed, C C ',( yO ~Onjectiont i altor thals triad 4 i by a on either occasion. As Chairman of the $ alter their contract with that firm. (Op-- «ut C itteo" he t.--Glarke . position cheers.) 'The matter might have llllnll;lg ,oml)m «el (t, (A 1'.' 3 11'1'] e) f been left over till the Printing Committee l".'f ')Len t'_'ml]o"""% 14 otnrm'tll(? '.'.M ' s had reported, but the House would probably ""'"'"&'"'_" 'l'\ f "'8..3( u]'l i went i "'H a(tuhl- t have occasion to hear more of it before the mu?me R ".m: l l't' )tvl.'.' ic tp o l'l'n ".' close of the session. Rose, & Co's, and to other printing firms, A Mr. T El 1e I and found that while the former offered to 'It ;{ .l'{.\fil*.l.'rc:vl a statement made by do the work at forty cents per thousand ems, (']'.'_' o kney, of Ottawa, under an PSR | none of the latter would do it for less than :.':"lu_".d 'hf' the Government, in J""""""""'" | fitty cents. _ (Hear, hear.) _ Under the cir-- of the ie z?z'xrs'c w?mh had bco.]l made. cumstances, the work was distributed among Mr. SCOTT objected to the imputations of several printing offices, the House agrecing I\nlgtx?ul molives which lmdv beon ?ll.ll'.tu' that the ;l}'icc paid to Hunter, Rose, & (,30_ zll'i::"::)tut:ltl)flel(ll"ltli llx'n-:xlflu-r"fulr I\O::lllllchlt:;f 'i should be forty cents pcrl_thous:;nd ems. T h§ did; 8 10 liouse derstoo¢ circumstances necessitating the increase J the 'I"L'"'*'SO in the printing made in 1874, payment coptinued for the ful%owins year j on the recommendation of the Printing Com-- and some time longer, and the ';rin'tcr.s' mittee, to be merely a temporary expedient strike extended to ()?l;uka, and in lfurt all | to relieve the Government of the great mass over the Dominion, -- Messrs. Hunter a ; of work which had accumulated. _ But the Rose & Co., were willing to pay 1 | same 1'11(:1'-\-&\'-\-(! rates had continued W'h.: was the f\,lv(\.m,yl-o of $2,000 required by A not 'u».t:c \\h.'-ltu-r'tln':',' had been 1':\1}!. their _ contract, rather _ than _ continue f Mr, FRASER said Messrs, HMunter, Rose & to do the work at 28 cents a thousand, and | Co. still claimed the same rates, but they had the Government broken ofl the contract, had not been paid during the past two they would have had to pay to other firms years, a considerably larger amount than Hunter, Mr. SCOTT said there wasno reason, why Rose, & Co. asked, He, therefore, thought the increased prices should have been paid that what was done was a simple act of in the year 1875, 'Fhe Government had no justice and economy on the part of the right to enter into this contract or any other Government, and that their action would coutract for public work _ without the receive the approbation of the House, * . knowledge of the public or consent of the Mr; MACDOUGALTL (Simcoc) was glad 3 House, and without asking "'_" House to to hear the voice of his old friend, the mem-- ' ratify what they lz.ull done, By so doing, ber for Wellington (Mr. Clarke), _at whose f * ;.uul neglecting to make this contract & sub-- remarks, however, he was fsm-pnsc_d, con-- P joot of lv'n:h.-r, thg-y had done injustics to sidering his devotion to Reform principles other printing firms, and enabled Messrs. in his young days, for that hon. gentleman -- har-- "I% c 3 3 ¥ 3 + 9 | : lunter, Rose, & Co. to pocket their addi. was defending the improper aciion of the * ?l:"til&h l'il'l"\mh' '4;'11'-'? l"J"*Ul'ml';;'";"ll':'Gfil(lkl'";';'cs Government in this matteer--a hlrlcuch"ol 1 10 C . 18 was baraly in ccordance y r tef ucinles MT, P with the l"-'f # l _) Te l essed well--known Reform pnuu'nlu.. -- e ('lll' C wiorm _ principles | professe Macdougall) refused to be held responsible :x): 80 !F;m;v lyn-:;rs b:'l honi.tlgl-lnln;:lfimou oppo; for the decisions of th(i fumic {\(t-couuts 5 .C. -- 1ey had reaily, witho 1e consen Committce, so 1011',',' as that Committee was u't. l';nr'h:fm'('ut, cn!cl'(',d into a new contract controlled l,by theGovernment. He contended [ with Messrs, Hunter, Rose, & (.n,, by which that the Government had no.nght to pay ) these ::;-n}l»mou were able to make a large these prices, for they were obtained ml&fizlw E: amount of money. ces by Messrs. Hunter, Rose, & Co. * rm is pretences by Messrs, H ; 4208€; 1 $ Mr. FRASERfread from the minutes of | who alleged that the strike necessitated the y the Public Accounts Committe tor January | payment of higher wages, while the fact 3 | l7th,1877, tg» sl.mw that the items under the | was that they had substituted apprentices 1 s head of printing were adopted without and girls for tihnlsc who lmdf tfimc; Oxl]lt t(l;'; F remonstraace or ohbjection, although the strike. The whole tenor of«the hon, s member for East Grey (Mr. Lununcr) and Commissioner of Public Works argument d several other members of the Opposition | was to show that these increased prices ¥ were present. (Cheers.) l were reasonable, while the hon. gcntlcmag Mr. LA UDER--That report was only pre-- for Ottawa--himselt a pnutcr----h':ld ,btst;tcor sented on the last day of last session. that the work co;n{l«l bl()) donel '::'u'tlatr((),solu utertaw k © alt & --thi 3 observel e ao s j Mr, SCOTT sard it did not touch his ar-- o;ue th"dslf(;s b Lt,hc Reform Convention gument ; for the minutes of the Committee ols P:jwtl:nt l?urlinmentnrv authority over 3 l related to the year 1874, while he was speak-- ' !tll';':)nx':lfblic expehditure had been vindicated 4 ing of the yeat 1815. f by the Reform Government in Ontario. f fiad it? he asked. Did .lh'o tnm'sacuou they were discussing exhibit the (xqvc:n- ment in the light of Reformers who had .{' i -- ' i 6 "' 7'?\: l