The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 6 Feb 1878, p. 7

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is C es j m es A y (98 uo. . ~ n 9 No g " * o ol 4 J',".v,'. P o f ; , aa . 3 w ( P + uo ; v'&» e s | Fel < % w ; ecti s +mA » o4 ol T seagon onl i Pomwar an ie not n on 000 oi m io oo relmics io [ | clause provided for thev ttec. e purposes, at all events so alz' T ont rateg) *4 * N buildings and grounds e-'CTPCIOIl c y ey ' ie( Apaver uieA ol vhle Pai l.a(,l?': M . s Univer:ity C""% C o hs' xfttaf. ied to every | _ The motion was lost on the following divi-- y -- t School or,otl °ge, incor Ponutvd (?:rmnnuu'1 sion :-- at . i ' § lcill'nin'g 1ier incorporated seminary °f| Yeas--Messrs. Bell, Deacon, Hargraft, Meredith, & 3 P / § Mr, .-\Ignzmm said ron i. Scave . Arseurs 'Iins i 1 i E 4 anyone who con-- Nays--Mossrs. Harsy, Calvin, Chisholm, Graham, , + 3 I du_ctlod a school as a private speculation '{{u;'lkin, Hay, McMahon, Miller, Patterson, and l 3 might be exempted unde ills--10. s f J E: | Mr. TTarox f doubtcl:lr ttltl::'t,t t(l'll:r\:,se.wm The ()ommitte?djoumcd until to-morrij » : w p many such in the country, morning at eleven o'clock. A A s s # anmmmmmemmmmmmnmemmmenmemmmenomemmemsuth s s | sv?.l,l(i.%;";,'?'lfiaf,l;ilzgfcflrth" taxing of any in-- | $s R s | ¢ &6 9" of churches. T y Mr. Dzacox :'1gr'ec(l With Mr. Meredith,and . § 13 - thought the clause ShOu1q be a subject of I P -- ::"fllln')'. and (i'om'ldcration. The phrase other incorporAted semingries of learning" a might be made to cover very wide ground. . > > Mr. BerL did not object to the exemption xt f ")f. Public Schools, but there were many ) f l private educational institutions established f / | ,"""."10 sole purpose of making money, | i3 | l"ln'ch he thought should be taxed as other 4 < | business concerns. 'The University held _R | 80 or 90 acres of land on speculation with-- \ _'415 out paying taxes for it, which he thought ; hss Ca was unjust. It also prevented the growth | us © p of the city in a north--westerly direction. | o. . M He thought the Act should limit the | 6. f amount of land held by educational institu-- [E C $ tions if it was to be exempted. $ Mr. Wirrs, instead of objecting to the 3 clause, thought it did not go far enough. | 'f";. f He would approve of exempting all schools, | +2 6 whether private or public, f |y 6 Mr. Deacox took strong ground to the f f the contrary. If private schools were | A exempted he did not see why they should i < not receive aid from the Government, tS Mr. Romixsox agreed with the remarks of 3x ; Mr. Beli; he did not wish to be regarded as | . 2e | acting in the interests of Toronto, but of the s * | whole Province. mses f Mr. -- Harkin thoucht educational in. _ e stitutions should _ be as _ unrestricted | + *R as possible, and he would not approve of s ' taxing one such., | . amnty | _ _ Mr. O'Doxowurs said that if the Committee [ 7B ! did no more than express their own opinion | | -- ww s | on these different subjects, they would not l :. >¥ be carrying out the instructions of the House | f | in their appointment. -- Persons and papers 1 +. x N | | shouid be sent for and as many facts gath-- ue . 'l | ered as possible on which to base their fE,:M;". h d | judgment. »{a%_ l | l Mr, Harov did not think there was any t : CC | groat grievances with respect to the ex-- t ". s emption of educational insritutions, ~ He [ -- ) [ %" . 10 did not desire, however, that the enquiry uie $.i, should be at all limited, l c ltdd, Mr. Harozavs moved in -- amendment | + o. "«That a statement be laid before the Com-- i 'wile mittee of the quantity of land attached to | w <4 any university, college, or other incorporated ' ~l t smuinfn-y of Ivu.rnin,r,:, showing m;)t only the | , 7 < quantity occupied, but the quantity unoceu-- k 2e d pied, and in whose name the said land was | * held." | t youd ' + Mr. Meredith's motion was put and car-- | &, ~@ ! ried on the following division, | (aigs . \ ' Yrasg.--Messrs. Hardy, Bell, Deacon, l:m]m,,,'] J _ "= Hargraft, Hay, Meredith, Patterson, and Wills.--9. | o Nays. --Messrs. Calvin, Chisholm, Harkin, O'Dono-- | f i | ghue, MeMahon, and Miller.--6. 6 if a _ Mr. Miller's motion was lost, and Mr. Har-- . § graft's carried. f & (On sub--section 5 of section 6, providing ; @ for the exemption of every public school f? * house, town, or city, or township hall, court ; :si' house, gaol, etc., with the land attached tSfi thereto . } Mr. Merrpirit objected to the unfair ad-- * ' vantage gained by countics in enjoying all c j [ city improvements required in connection ' j with their property' without paying tor them, | a Several gentlemen referred to the advan-- 0A t tages obtained by cities and towns in having ; . e | county buildings situate therein. , | s Mr. Merszorru said this was an ad captan-- f yA dum argument, A town or city, for that mat-- k. ter, was benefitted by every inhabitant it ' e + contained. -- There were advantages on both | #% sides, -- He regretted to observe the disposi-- ' ty tion of rural members to treat this question 3 with sectional feeling, -- He moved, " That it k is competent for the Committee to enquire ; i f as to the propriety of the exemption of court houses, gaols, and other county propertick I situated within the limits of cities and Eo t p Il*- hem F

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