The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 22 Feb 1878, p. 4

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L139 sought admission. llo quoted from the report, and contended that great good had bccn accomplished by the trials mal: of weds, in fencing and laying out of grounds, by hard, practical Work. There was no ex- pectation of the Api ultural College pay- ing; no Agricultural Cullcgc ever did pay, and no one ever would pay. The Michigan College, With all its udruntagcs of twenty years' experience, endowments, kts., costs each year about $28,000, and, so far as farm operations are concerncd, we were far ahead ot them, though their indoor work might be in advance of ours. Our outside appliances and tstock were far superior to those of the Michigan institution. lie said that an in- crease of $500 had been made in the Pro. sident's salary, and n Humor had been ap- pointed " a salary of $800. Mr. SCOTT gave credit to the hon.genue- man for doing his utmost to render the farm successful and acceptable to the country,but he apprehended that it would never hen success. He said that on capital account alone $156,590 had been expended, besides considerable sums for maintenance, the sum for this purpose being considerably incrcaSed this year. He thought it not what it should be that an official of that institution should attack in print hon. memht is who exercise their right of criticising the institution. In 1876 each pupil had cost about $995, and when they knew that one-half of these pupils, had not followed agriculture it ap- peared that each pupil cost the coun- try that year about $2,000. lie thought that the teaching was too technical, and proceeded to read from the ex- amination papers. Altogether, he said, there was too much theory and too little practice in the institution. Mr. WOOD stated that he could now re. ply Eta) statements to the contrary by say- ing that the majority of students at the College now are farmers' sons. Up to date there hare been 188 students, 87 of whom are now on the roll. Of the remaining lol, tl are following farming, 4 are at other col. leges, 18 are engaged in other pursuits, and of8 they had no trace. Of M on the roll 67 are from tho farm or garden direct, and the other have expressed their inten- tion of following agriculture or horticulture " their business. The number of students has been doubled within the last year, and they have had to shut the door in the (ace of as many . as Were on the roll, who The item $50,000 for unforeseen awl un- provided, was passed. On the item $21,970 for the School of Agriculture, . school, and these were matters of great im- portanceia a new settlement. Tho system of survey now being acted on was very good In a fiat prairie country. It had originated in the prairies of the United States, and had from thence been imported into the Wooded and broken country of Ontario, to which it was not att all adapted. It gave a little less. labour to the otlicers of the depart- ments'amlto surveyors than theylwould other. wise have, but It was productive of infinite trouble to the settlers, and he (Mr. Dawson) trusted that the Government would on deyour toupply a remedy to this Serious Mr. WIGLE said that though the 1?vesi.. dent in his report last year au that the ex- pcnso would not be increased, there was a material increase this your. be made to 'conform in some measure to the face of the country. A river, when it Was navigable, or of considerable size, should be made a front, with lots abutting on it on either side. The lots should also abut on leading Madman. m meant that stood line should be in the first place laid off on the ground best adapted for it, and then tiers of lots laid off on either side of it. The settlers would thus be close to- gether. It would cost them less to main. tain roads, and it would be more "53' for them to send their children to tem of laying " townships was not well adapted to Ontario. The land was laid out in square blocks, without reference to the configuration of the country. The lines must everywhere be on one given course. Nature had not laid out hgr mountain chains, the rivers or the valleys in precisely straight courses; the} run in fVery d.irec.tion, and the surveys should Mr. CAMERON said that the Company when incorporated had no apparent capital,' and depended on bonuses. Certain municipalities were grouped into guaranteeing, $155,000 in bonuses before the Company organized. Seven shareholders put in $3,200, which they sub. sequently withdrew, nothing in the meats time having been done. Afterwards Mr. Manning took the place of Mr. Fairbanks, when the by-law repealingthe by-lawgrantd ing $153,000 was repealed, and it was con- tendul the original by-hue stood. lie then Went into details respecting! Mr. Manning's connection with the Company, stating that it was evidently intended to do work on the money supplied by the grouped mtmicipali-. tics that would have cost $145,000. A cas/is,now intheconrtssonappcsal respecting this hanw, and this Bill provided that it (the Bill) wouid not inter-me with these proceedings. The effect of the. iliil was simply to get the money of these muniei- panties. i Mr. PARDEE said that, a suit had been decided in favour of the Cmnpanv, compel'.-. ing the county to carry out the hy-Inw and this on appeal. What this Bill (wheel for was an extension of the time mentioned in the charter. Tho Bill did not ask an ' interest on the debentures for the three \'c'u')s during which these should have bet'll'in existence. The last clause protected u, municipalities. e Mr. SQO'rT s?i.d that it was not riclt that this Legislature should intcmcreein acontra.Ubttw.een " municipality and a 'e,r/'r'e,ielal',,1t, dim such a precedent had ecu estab is 10 he would vo . ' second reading, to " the Mr. Bld'l'IIUNE asked tho hon. mmnbcr for East Toronto how many llll. nicipaiitics were opposed to this by.law '1 Mr. CANE RON-Three. Mr. BETHUNE said that it did not ap. pear to him that justice would be done, to these municipalities by this Bill. It was practically keeping the bylaw in life when it Was dying and thereby relieving those opposed to the railway from a burden forced upon them. 1mm AND HURON RAILWAY COM- PAN Y. Mr. MCCRANEY, in moving the second reading ot the Bill respecting the Erie and Huron Railway Company, gave some ox- plauatioas regarding the scope of the powers asked for. Respecting certain dame on Black Creek --5lr. Appleby. To amend the Acts relating to the Tic. toria Railway Gunman y-Mr. Cameron To incorporate the Arthur J unction Rail- way Company-Mr. McGowan. The following Bills were passed through Committee l--. Respecting the Gait and Guelph Railway Com pun y-dir. Massic. It beigg six o'clock, the Committee rose and reported. After recess, The House went into Committee on Mr. BOULTER was much better pleased with the Trcaeurer's statement to-day than last year, and was willing to continue cu- couraging the institution, MLFERRIS thought that hon. gentlemen, who talked of the cost to the country of these young farmers should consider how much the education of young professional men had cost the country. He contended that they had cost the country ten times as much as the farmers' sons. His son Was at the College, and he would rather have his son a. farmer than n briefless, barrister or a miserable doctor. (Hear, hear.) Mr. GRAHAM thought that the country would be greatly benefited by the experi- ments " the farm, and was glad to see that the farm was conducted with such ability. If the.Coliege did educate the sons of pro. fessionnl men it would do good, inasmuch as it would make them maneers instead of consumers. W. . . Mr. TOOLEY approved of having a farm, but took exception to some details. PRIVATE BILLS . . .ros L' h:

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