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ETT --v**v---vm------------vf"""'w' h »»ereent e Mess ~rei e meseaie M t : ~ $ t > y al 1 5 n i Naxs.--Messrs. Baliantyne, _ Baxter, Bethune, when it was remembered that it was in con-- | t t I Bishop, Bonfield, Chisholm, Clarke (Wellington), nection with this charge that the assertions | f Cole, Currie, Dawson, Deroche, Ferris, Finlayson, were made of in t dischar; The | | Fraser, Gibson, Graham, Grant, HManey, Hardy, § iproper dlschar,;es_. The P Hargraft, Wlay, Hodgins, Hunter, Lane, Lyon, Mc-- papers possibly would not be down till next | - (';ff,'f,';';;,;'flfi;\.f""i'-'-i;a¢?:l,"'i5§;'f§3f',°'i< 311,;:11:;:1'5401':::: :csmf)pt, and the matter might be carried over | j & Sexton, Sinclair, Snetsinger. Springer, Striker, Wat-- 0 next session. | ' :vrwonh.7 Widdifield, Williams, Wills, Wilson, The motion then carried. z Wood --47. | En ; Mr. FRASER then moved that the words THE ORANGE BILL, | ' t «it is not expedient that any person whilst Mr. MERRICK, in rising to ask for leay y | k a member of the House of Com. to introduce a Bill intituled "An Act t« | ' mons or the Senate of Cnngda should be ap-- incorporate the Loyal Orange Association ot ' & | pointed to" be struck out of the amendment, Eastern and Western Ontario, and that and that the following be inserted in lieu rules 51, 53, 56, 57, and 58 be suspended for | p thereof;--«Having regard to the efficiency ' that purpose," explained the circumstances | ' and regularity of the public service of On-- which caused him to adopt the course tario, it is not expedient that hereafter any | which he did to seek to introduce his Bill. f person whilst a member of the House of | In proceeding he read from the hon. the ' | Commons or the Seuate of Canada shall ! Attorney--General's remarks upon the Bill of ] have or hold," etc. t | last session, when he said the ordinary law | The amendment as amended _ was | would enable them to incorporate. _ This § then carried on the same division, and the statement was afterwards modified by $ original resolution lost, l introducing an mnvmlmczlnt cn:sblliug them | t nay % ¥ 6 y Y ames | to procure incorporation by application to | $ } NON.PAYMENT OF TIMBER DUES, | lhcl(/'uunty Judgrt, which }mil itls[dr.'nvh:;cks. Mr. SCOTT moved for an order of the | Me then proceeded to explain briefly the . House for all correspondence between J. B. seope of his Bill, and hoped that if the hon. McWilliams« or John McDonald or others gentlemen who in the past had epposed and the Commissioner of Crown Lands, or such Bills did so on this occasion it would, | any officer of the Crown Lands Department, at all events, pave the way to success in the } relative to the seizur® of certain lumber of next session . He thought that their con. the said McDonald, or ot Messrs. Gilmour stituents would say that justice had not & Co., for alleged non--payment of timber been done to a large and honourable body dues; and copies of all receipts or vouchers of men . for the payment of the dues, or any portion Mr. FRASER, after a few introductory thereof, for the non--payment of which such | remarks, said that the hon. gentleman had seizure was made, He rclu'rvd"tf} certain | mot explained some features of this mea-- rumours to the effect that MU'" illiams, an | sure. It was common talk that it had been ( officer in the cruploy of the Crown Lands decided not to introduce this Bill this ses-- i Department, Il!:t(l" use of l'n.f position to in. sion, but the party managers saw after the luence voters in the Dominion .«:h'gtn»u in assembling of the House they were between the east riding of Peterborough in 1874, It the devil and the deep sea--the was alleged that h': circulated among cer-- deep _ sea _ of the _ gencral election, tain voters receipts 'U"""" payment of timber and the devil of the spirit of the dues for amounts which never were paid, party they had raised by their persistent ¢ Afierwaids these persons ""H, their timber ' advocacy of this measure. _ The difficulty to one MeDonald, from ",h""' it was .\u-umli with the general election was the proba-- } by the Department for the dues in respect | bility of prejudicing the Catholic vote. f rto which rcceipts _ had been given, | Those who had promoted this Bill had not f and which McDonald retused to I"""h followed one rule of the House in private i+ the rumours were trme, the ofiicial Tok d Bills. _ With a strange deliberation they not be '(~()ll[-"lll~(-|' 'm 1'-111(-«-, and if 'tl.w'_\" "\;'.l-'i had defiantly and deliberately proceeded ;"" :: "l"'f*"'" h"'l':""l'l not be allowet against all reles. Were he to raise the ques-- Pn o es P Ner . .. tion of order the hon, the Speaker would he + Mr. PARDEE said public rumour had bound to rule the matter out of order, But been all wrong in this case, and the hon. this he would not dO, and would confine , member for West Pcoterborough had been himselt to examining the irregularities in | entirely deceived, 'The case was similar to | the proceedings, which he proceeded to i many that arose every year. . McDonald was | do at length, saying that even had the notice j a mill owner, and last year he took a lot of reached the publishers of the Gazette it was | logs, some of which were, and some not, | so arranged that for the purposes of this | liable to pay dues. As he refused to pay | House it would be irregular, The notice | dues on any of them the Government had had been received by the publisher and re-- | no other course but to seize the logs, as they turned for the money, which never came, so | did in all such cases, McDonald had, how. they knew that their notice was not being | ever, paid dues on a large numner of logs, inserted. Even in the Orange Sentinel the [ and the seizure had been discharg-- notice was not inserted for the correct time. * ed. Two _ other bush _ rangegs be-- Within two weeks of the time the notice ! sides MeWilliams had made enquirie®s, should bhave been inserted, no copy of the | | and found the facts to be as he had stated. Bill with the $100 necessary had been | He cnul,n!gmly denied that McW illiams h1~ul handed to the Cierk. 'lll,.']l.\\n his position in lul!uv.umg -\nl't,f.s, Mr. MERRICK--The Clerk held the $100 ] and he dcfied the hon,. member for West o s 4 m « Pcterborough to produce one receipt which which accompanied the Bill of last year. f he had given. Dues could only be paid at Mr., FRASER said that the Clerk had no ~ the head office of the Department. _ He had power to retain the $100, and even if the found McWilliams to be a most eflicient money were in the House the Bill was not. officer, the increase in the collection of dues The next course that Should have been uader his charge since he had been a forest taken should have been thu@ they go to the 'm.ngcr having amounted to $165,755. There Committee on Standing Orders and ask was no objection to the papers being brought them to report to the House upon the whole down, and they would show that the ru-- matter, _A mere bald verbal statement was mours referred to were entirely untrue. made to them ; not even was this local ad-- Mr. CAMERON said the charge was that vertisement shown'to them,. Indeced,all the discharges had been given improperly for rules of the llou{s? had b(:o'n m'ntmn{)tuout.\ll)l ' the purpose of securing votes. 1t would be set at mxug!nt. The no}uc w.'x? pu 'orvx' 1e Just as well to have a Committcee, as Mr. paper not till the 8th February--a Covern« * McWilliams might be maligned. His words mcut,_d;\yT'whcn it was impossible to 0',0'" were reported to be that the Government take it. 'The mover deliberately allokvwd dare not do anything against his interests. two days to pass during that wee B("ll; Of Mr. McDonald he (the speaker) knew which he ungh,t_ huve'_ had e his . l" nothing beyond that he was represented as put before the Private Bills (,omuutlt'c%, a respectable man, but the hon. the Com-- which ,hf"d now reported for the d j inissioner's action made him out to be some-- time. Then, again, the Bill would have to thing else,. | be posted up for five days in the lobby, and Mr. PARDGE said that he had civen Mr ! then the House would have risen. In view Dlt'l)(;l;ul([ bi¢ In-';l-m 0'1. the bull.t 5 * ' | of all these matters l_lc contc'n;dcd that "{"' ,, c C * Bill was introduced for election purposes ; Mr. CAMERON saidthat the Government | the hon. gentleman indeed was between | did not appear to have acted properly in this the devil and tho deep sea. Two sessions ago he had asserted that this body was a political--religious or-- | ganization, backing up his assertion by wfl!' 4 ooo mm t i on l d e en oo x