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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 27 Feb 1878, p. 10

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"r. -v.. I.l\\lg (AC i had no objection to miscas to the way these getrtlcitwn pct-furnml their duties (hear, I bear), but if the same state of things exist-ed l in other pan-ls of the country as in London, it did not, look as though the Government" had been sincere in their professions. Mr. HARDY said he had heard no com- plaints about; the London Coiumisstonets. There had been a complaint from London But that nman was refused a license who should have obtained ouc',ttnd that another -- [GONTmUED 0N mum" was]. --_-- the city I London Municigul Council, candidate for a of Commons, and Mr. MEREDITH mid the Government seemed to have departed from the principle on which they proiesscd to proceed when they changed the license system of the Pro. vi .cu. Two of tho three Commissioners of the city f London were members of the Municipal Council, and the third had been a. candidate for a seat. in the House. of Cozumom, and was dcfvated. He had no objection to miscas to the way these goutlunon perform-d their duties (hear, bear), but if the same state of things existed 3.Ir, cases. Mr. MAUUUUGALL asked if tho Bill made any provision as to expenses in those places where the Dunkin Act was repealed. Hr. HARDY said it did not nth-ct such LICENSE ACT. Mr. HARDY, in moving the second read. ing otthe Bill to amend tho License Act, and for other purposes, said it carried out the provisions of the resolutions just passed, The Bill also repealed section 109 of the License Act, which was inoperative. Sec- tion 6 provided that in name places where the Dunkin Act was in force, and where, consequently, the revenue under the License Act was small, one-third of the expenses of carrying out the Liccnée Act should be borne by the Province from the Consolidated Revenue Fund, and two. tl.irds by the county or municipality in Itestion. Section t provided. that in it case where a city or town was separated frame county for municipal purposes, a bunkin by-hue being in force in the county and not in the city or town, there should be a separate license fund. These sections were more}, to make the Act more work. able. Section 8 provxded that tho costs' on appeal to the. County Judge, from a con. viction under the License Act should not be more than ten dollum. Other sections were intended to make some provisions ofthe License Act more clear. _ The Committee rose and reported the resolutions " amended, and they were received and referred to the Committee of the Whole House on the Bill to amend the License Act, and for other purposes. " But nothing in this resolution contained shall require repayment to be made to the defendant in the cause of Regina v. Severn, heretofore litigated in the Supreme Court of Canada, should the case be appealed to Her Majesty in Council." The following clause formula. rti the third resolution, but Hon. 'd {gig asked the consent of the House to its withdrawal C-- 3. Resolved, That when any brewer or dunner, under and by viz-tun of tlttt Act pasaod In the thirty. ninth year of Her Ate?,:', reign, clmptered tummy- six, he! paid into} it: license fund of my 1100mm district, or to the Incense Inspector, the duty on any wholesale license or lici-nloe, or has paid "1, ttm, or tiuea by reason of the neglect of such bum-r or die ttnur toolrtain such wholesale llama, rind and: duty and tittea elm" not have been paid into the con-oli- dated tum, nun-h License Board may repay the nine to the person or person, tho paid the nine, 0: to his or their executim, tuituitti.trttora, or "Sign", "ctt payment lacing itrat approved tu the Treasure;- of the Province. c. Resolvcd. That all expenses of carrying the pro- xiims of e..crurt, one hundred and live to nu: hun.. dred and eight inclusive of said chapter one hundred and cighty-onc and of this Act into ettoct shall, when the licousm fund is intmNoiout for the purpose, be b no and paid in the proportion ot one-turd b tho " roviuco, oat of the Consolidatrd Revenue Fund): and two-thirds ' y the county within which any by. law for prohibiting the sale of liquor under the Temporal" Act of 1874. or under chapter one tum. dred and eighty-two of the Revise"! Statute. of Ontario, in in force, and where the try-law in that ot a minor municipality, such minor municipality. were of the entire expenses shall be paid in the name proportion by the Province and the minor municipality rcspecti rely. M r. MACDOUGALL ask "poll the issue of I unclean "can" under add Act, and the amount of my the or ttues received by any municipality and the interest which may be ropam to web brewer: or (human. London Commissioners. complaint from London 71.: n-I'uwd a license who med onc,and that ttttother Mr. ROSS thought the Bill ought to pro- vide lot appeals against dismissals by magis. trutes of cases under the License Law. They had been c8n'sidering a Bill fur the appointment of magistrates to cum out the law where the local magistrates failed to do so, but he thought if such a provision he had indicated Were inserted in the Bill, it would be one of the best sun-gnu rds against the necessity of appointing temporary magistrates. Mr. FLESHER said it was a that Commissioners should be municipal commits us that u should. Mr. P1Wts'ONr said the hon. member for North Urey was mistaken as to the chair- man of the Thunder Bay Commission. Mr. l McIntyre was chairman hut year. He did not know that Mr. Marks was at any time the chairman, bat he was a very efficient Commissioner, its Were all the Commission-. ers. They had exerted themsalvcs so Well that the district, instead of being disgraced by drunkenness, for which it was once notorious, was now one of the most sober parts of the country. m understood that Mr. Marks was going to resign his position this year, and he (Mr. Dawson) hoped he would be able to recommend as efticieut a man to succeed him. Mr. DEROCHE said the question turned on the expression in that uuctiun of" strictly medicinal purposes." Persons frequently falsely told druguists that they wanted liquor for medicinal purposes, and the drug- gis_ts,,knowing their statctnettts..to be untrue, yet sold them the liquor. Mr. Cllo ccnsc Act,, thought, be mutt the UV had only "chan, drug store. mt. umuUCIIE spoke of the evil done by druggists selling liquor mthuut proper re- strictions. There was one Case tried in his own county, where the Dunkin Act was in force, in which it appeared that one hundred packages ware sold by adruggist in one afternoon. People who had favouved (he Dunkin Act began to think thot_ti,,,,, Mr. DEliOCIIE trpol, druggists selling "qua strictions. There w his own cmmh' who W. __-- -v an. a ywuluutU so long as he was a. commissioner. Mr. CREIGHTON alleged that the chair. man ofthe License Commission at Thunder Bay was largely interested in the liquor business in that whole district. The menr. her for Algoma would know ofthe matter. Mr. DA WSON-Who is the chairman ? Mr. CREIGHTON said Mr. Marks. He was chairman last year, and be supposed he was still, while at the same time ho was Reeve of the myniapalrty. lie wait on to spunk of the necessity of there being a clause in the Bill to prevent dluggists from selling liquor in places where the Dunkin Act was in force. Their abuse of the pi'rmitision ttctoyded them was much worse than the tive-canon clause of the , Dunkin Act. l Mr. MOWAT said that He thought he ought not 50 long as be Wtts ll lfnlnln Mr. MEREDITH said he knew of one Commissioner who had been repeatedly a candidate for the office of Reeve. Mr. MOWAT Said tho policy the} Government desired to carry out was/ that License Commissioners should not? be members of Municipal Councils,? and if there Were cases Where they were the 5 Government was not. aware of it. They had repeatedly refused to appoint Municipal Councillors, and they wore Occasionally naked if a Commissioner Would be disquali lied if he run for the oilice of a Municipal Councillor, and inVarinbly replied that they thought he should. In the only casein which a member of a Council was a Commissioner ho happened to 1 be a good commissioner. who should not have obtained one did ob. tain it. He made an enquiry into tho mat ter, and it struck him that the Commission. crs had exercised their discretion, and but: not exercised it improperly. E21 CROOKS read section 42 of the Li "jigti18P/?,l- F " _ ' Pg A. if): tir.", - H-.. -yy..uu 144 v1 bl": Ll" Act, which, it enforced, would, he ;, bu found to be quite tsullicicui to U evil referred to. oNrARrtCiEiriiifffriirina, [communn mom roams non] while at. "the same time ho of the myniapalrty. lie 0 spunk of the necessity a a clause in the Bill to prevent 1. People who had favJuied ct began to think that they god the bar-room for the said that was an objection d the hon. member for stakcu as to the chair- ' Bay Commission. Mr. nan hut year. He did Marks was at any time tum be members of that ttuetti-kecpcts was as undesirable to be a cituiidatd

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