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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 4 Mar 1878, p. 13

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Mr. MERRICK argued that the Opposition Mr. SPEAKER ruled that the resolution voted for the amendment to the amendment would be amended by adding; the words because it did not intcriere With the prmcn- mentioned in the amendment to the amend. ple of the amendment. . merit. I Mr.Si'EAKEIt said that the lions: was The discussion then dropped, and the under the impression that the word " that" item as amended was concurred in. was in the bcgtnning of "he atmmdmcnt, _ Mr. WOOD moved, "That the sum of! thereforc Lc should rule that it be bo. 1 $59,025 be voted to defray the expenses of ', Mr. CAMERON contended that the word Miscellaneous Justicc." I could not be inserted, as it was not ill the, Mr. MONK morcd in amendment, tt That amendment. There. was no mch on the the resolution be referred back to the Com- part of the., 1l11tlle.r, but rather on the mitten of Supply with instructions to reduce partof the 1iuvy1t1Siyf.1yl'.ityy,y.yst to tho amount by striking out the sum ot substitute one amendment for anoutct . $5,000, for the Provincial Police at Clifton Mr. SPEAKER advised that the vote be I and Fort Eric." rescirulcd,tutd the amendment put "alt1. Mr. maroon; wished to know if the Mr. MACDOUGALL (himcoe) had not Government Were not about to discontinue voted because he believed the, . amend. this vote, bccausc last year it was stated ment to the amendment was intended that the 'otcs was only of a temporary na- to be substituted for the amendment ; and turc. , he supported Mr. Speaker P the ruling that Mr. 110WA'1' said there was no'promise the House was under the Mnprestilon it was made last Year that the amount should be voting down the amendment. I l discontinued at auyparticularthue, although , Mr. BETIIUNE thought the Speaker i l the otyvcrttmcnt always looked upon the . should not undertake to amend resolutions :vole as being of a temporary cl.aractcr. [ submitted to the House. '1 he Opposition l i The Government were not in a position to might hare had the result ttt "cw Ill the ' say when the vote should be prithdtuwn,. time. If there was a misunderstanding it for there was no guarantee that if this course l was far better that the whole rule should be was adopted the old state of disorder in the I rescinded rather than tu) amendment. be locality ofClifton would not return. a (made bv the 1r"yy,t.t', it might 'ty l Mr. MEREDITH thought the "flying l precedent to be deplvivd on sum" tt ure squad " of police magistrates to be ap- I 3 occasion pointed after this session might be utilized I Mr. SPEAK lil'. explains d that it was oils. for this purpose, and the present great ex. tomary to supply formal words to make l pcnsc saved to the Province. sense when they had been otuittcd. i Mr. IIODGINS claimed that the vote was Mr. TI0DG1NS sid that when the amend- i Ir.. statute, and not Within the power of an _ ts "ire hr in: put the hon. member for l yrd.inary votc of the Committee of Supply l '?,"il "I ?lr Laude rcrornntodvd the to increase, deeriase,or even to vote. At, fast Grcy c. I _2'i' A] / tt'r. l " l, T l Ottawa the sums to be voted in the Com- , tipeaker mt to ltll' t ic ameni Illullt,' tilt, to l ittee 'fs ly 1 ll t be t d b Weld the iiiiil-riduielit to the l.lrli-1H..;i'!lll_ I "I" 10:0" 11.rly, ll) yose l c "it! y When the role was taken the llonsi he- ( he (who "we placed in separate co umuS. I lieved the word .. that .. to he in the any-ud- l Mr. CAMERON said that the amendment merit. lie agreed uilh the hhh' immh-r, was to reduce the resolution by so much for Stormont (Mr. Itch-tins) that l 1'sits' "do and was not outoforder. desirable, nor would it fortu a very "It: luv- l Mr. IIODGINS claimed that the sum and cedent, for Mr. Speakerto supply the 1ttlhuttiy, , similar sums were fixed by statute. . word. b ' Mr. BETlIUNE thought the Government It being six o'clock, the Speaker left the should consider tho propriety of forcing tlair. Clifton to contribute a share of this ex-" After recess. pense. M r. si'r'..hKlyl, ri-"erring to the misunder- MR BELL said it was proper that the standing before recess, said that if any hon. municipality of Clifton should bear the CS- member would state that he had voted for V pense of keeping order in its midst. ', the amendment to the amendment under Mr. MELEDITH complained that Cllf~; the impn ssion that the amendment would T ton was cnjoying special privileges. l not be eliminated as tt wLolu it would be I Mr PAfhwi,o'N (Essex) itr'rued that it I better to rescind the vote. was unfair to other municipalities that this I (my). J,, Ant pr ll 1stall, d that Sr \'v'i'litll of 3H Vote should be continued. is tlU meln lers were aware at I ' , W .» , , q _ amendment. would not be nullified by the C I',':.').,',].":,:!,'.',,',.?,',,',':,.? dccland lost on the amendment to the :mietnlmciit. '0 Tv"'? "HMO" .- Mi. FRASER contended that the. amend- "goal:(EditirsLIihitagifyfldtI?"l0123:"?efirii'tlrfvf; l ment to tin. amendment merely proposed to Douro", Grange. Harlem Kean, Lauder: Loris, Mc- eliminate a portion of the amendment, and Deni-i1" (illigllfgrx: Ncihougall ("mm"): y.t'yow- to add certain words to the resolution , tlicrc- 'lll'tt)ret,7t"t/i'r,'dl,e/,"ckid1or'fs': "a?!" Y, "undid" . . . . ' , on, bost VLM, loo.ev, tyre the contention of the Opposition was Witrle, Wills, Wilsou--ir2, . incorrect. 1uvir,r11ee,r1f.p,p.1oy..r, liallanty'v n, Iraxl!rr?ry! Mr. mum K when the im ail-W liiir'ki'l'iil'll'hiil'éii'ifdeiiil','iii'i'lill's,i.'.'.'lv'i3nf'ifiii§§lic would be "ddud, too. Ferns, Finn's-m, Fraser, Gibson, graham, Haney: in. Human did not think so. i251":iiflifi-fi'hiiiih0533533.,liruflifiiiniiii' , .,,' 'I/ir.. . Te tits Mowat o'tmuoul ' ' . ' ,tie "33,212:522:21;':..:"1*:ll3l';:f.'li::::.;:l'::.'.,': iiij;i.if,i'..r., statute'slafirzi,tan;moors: ' I . . - r) t Widditisld, Williams, Woud.-46. but not attachcd to the tvsirlution . ['l'li-r remainder ofthis report is held r Mr. RUSS said it was not becoming of for want of space] partyHeadcrs to permit the llouseto vote. "_---------- lindr-r a tnisappri-l- nsion. It did not rctrcct i crcditably on the Opposition. l Mr. MEREDITH repudiated any unfair dialings on the part of the Opposition. Mr. HODGINS contended that the hon. memiir for East (in-y (llr, Lauder) had re- qiiestcd the Speaker not to read the ainend- [ merit. so that hon. members did not know l what they Were voting on. Mr. LA UDritt denied that ho had done for mid said that he merely requested Mr. hpcaker to read the amendment to the amendment, as he desired to inform himself I as to its contents. I Mr. IfODGlNS re-aflirincd his statement. and would adhere to it. In the old l'arlia. meat of Canada it was the practice for the j5pt'aker to contorm motions to the term- inology of the House, but such was not the case here.

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