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V " V . WWi-Izv xiv-"w . _ .. a . 'T r." L" L " . E _ i 5 ' l ' . i , * _ l "I e . . . . ' ' b rs could vote tor " on I ',i', ll nine should not be binding at the first _tBhieggi,l""l.ial1r?l' without endorsing both I; Li moment Is, well as at the end of three principles. He regretted thatastrong party I , .iL hours. w'th refcrence LVO Tr,yll,er1s, he _ whip should be put in force on this occasion, I '_. T 'L preferred taking the precedent of England, and that hon. members were not to be 9,1. ' . where the unanimity system was preserveo , lowed to vote according to their choice, but _ . , r in the. face of."r fact that a contrary system were to be brought into line with the Gov- i l , prevailed in 1cf,)tltsnd,.to taking the example I ernment. He characterized such conduct I ' i . of Jamaica or '1 asmnnia. There was noth- . . -. . . . . . gt . as being discreditable. ' mg to reform by this Bill ; no grievance ex. , , , . t ' , , isted and no remedy was needed. During the Mr. SI EAKER--order! Order . .. [l v past year only tive juries in Ontario had dis Mr. MACDOUG ALL (Simcoe) heard Mr. l i agreed, and during the eighteen years of his Speaker calling him to order; but whet" l"' i ' "I ' practice he had known of only two noticed such conduct he. could not rennin cases of juries disagreeing in the united from speaking of it in sncliainanner. He . . counties of Leeds and Grenville, and he had concluded by hoping that the Bill would I I attended every Assize in these counties dur- pass a second reading, and be aria-ruled In r ' ing that period. He undertook to say that Committee, so as so embrace the principle of l l the expense of this new system would be bis Dill, enormous. Two or three jurors holding The amendment was put and carried on , I out against the rest would be a strong pro- the following division 'c--. l V vocation to the defeated party to ask for a Y _ . F ll m , ' . . . . . trAg.-Mttssris. Appleby, Ballnntjne, ex , L new trial, while the unanimous decision or Bishop Tlonfitld L'ouiter Brodcr calvin, emote", l ' twelve men would have 9. directly cplntraré' I (P ',j,i,i.ii,":,itc,i,i,i(.tie,it',irii,; 'tii,ii,'t.tii,",ireiii,c,f {giwsgni 1131' tit. L I effect. Whether the jury law were c tinge '/r.y.1vp.e1., 'ratsst ii Ron, "anant, " In , ' V or not with respect to civil cases V f3;f2;fij'"l'f$;sz"§lfiitif""3i$i','°'ii3§i§i.m°iiifii'lj the same number of jurors as Lat I f,l'/xe,yt1i'ala'i",.fq,.'; l'attcrsorti Linnea, 3:33:32, ' f . t he 1 Sexton Sincuir Spunw-r ti ri er, a t mar" iiiiiii'icii,' fi.i,.?'itci,a',ii, i%'soT,' Wood-hi. l , . A 'han e. i Pcrt,'rr11,tttr,i1. linker, Barr, Bethune, Brownii Fsi) meat at Qtuwa choso to make a C F I Chisholm, Clarke (Norfolk), Code, bile, Creighton, l N Before taking up a measure of this kind ', Deacon, Doroche. Flasher. Grange, Grunt, Lauder, ' they should be sure that the people wanted j {lucrlousull h"iddICEBX)Z¢i"1:lled§;'fia!1"(Slljléfflozil'i'l'vzlglfiL _ it. new had been vo particular discussion : otherattics?is:an:fiasco. , . L . upon it, either among the people or m the I The Bill was lost on the same division. , . newspapers, and he did not believe the pco- .5 , ple wanted this measure. MUNICIPAL ELECTIONS. I V Mr. MASSIE moved, "That Bill No. 73 Mr. HAY'S Bill respecting Municipal r be not read the second time to-day, but that I Elections was withdrawn. fl it be read tho second time six months I - Fb* . , _ i hence." I TIIE JUltUltb ACI'. t s':. Tq Mr. BETHUNE said he desired to get the _ Mr. MONK movcd the second reading of l , House committed to some measure, 80 that , the Bill to amend the Jurors' Act; and he L the Government would be prepared to deal l explained that it was to provide for an L with it next session, but the practical effect L ' equal distribution of the jury list among the L ' of the six months' hoist would be to do i l various townships of a county, which could a r nothing at ttll. He did pot wish to WNW" l not be done at the present time if the letter I L. Tata the Government, but he wanted to get j i of the law was adhered to. Although Q T ~ 3 statement from the House that some re. , i the Bilt might not he in a suit- 3 'l l lief was needed. He contended that the I I able shapo at the present time, he 1a Ll 1 Ontario Government had criminal jurisdic- l tirmly believed that the Home in the 'l , ' . . tion. for in 1873 I measure introduced by eXercisc of its usual fairness would assist i: ll , l the Attorney-General for the establishment I him in making it perfect. ' - t of a Criminal Court had been passed, p"? ' Mr. ROSS. while concurring with the ob- I , , gave a flat contradiction to the insiutratiott i (jects of the Bill, did not agree with the L gr 'l, i that he introduced this measure for 1hr! 'construction placud upon the law by the ', , purpose of bringing practice to Toronto. and 1 3 hon. mover, nor with the plan proposed. l . _ l i il q t he thoi:v,It th" im"- ;rmrlcnum (Ili-. NWT) ' From the discussion which had taken place t i 'should have had mow respect " the pro- i I this evening it was evident that a reform in T J tession to which he belonged tly1ttttr.lyy'trl, the jury law was needed, and he had no , . made it. (rrpwysition clitecrrc) 'lin' J"ill, tl', doubt that the Government would next ', j I passed, would not put a dollar more i.'"') l year make it the subject of their considera- ), ( his pocket. He felt hurt at the iiisiiznation, _ tion. , f , l. , ' . . I . F ' ' . ' t . st}: 'pt/rl/a,)",,':,),':]),""):'),'),'.))':;',:',";': Mr. wo/T p.oPied out that if the Prill l _ .. 1 ('Liu' lr it . _ was passed in its present form and the ' l , i. I c'erru)u, WI " raw 1 . jurors selected alphabetically, every few r L ' Mr, FRASER Sill-l his argy.ty'nt was years the list would be commenced one". l , that "w ctfcct of the l',ilt would As a result, the jurymen whose names V i . be " he had stated. Ile, would , commenced with one of the last , i be very sorry to say t.h.at le hon. p,rcnt,lcman , letters in the alphabet would never be tie. T ' had any personal tuotive P tlie matter, be- I lectcd. lle concluded by directing tho at- l k F cause ("WOW who knew him tMr. 1'tethut.w) _ tention of the hon. gentleman to the fact l V would know that he had too large a practice that the Bill would require a degree of at- a r to can: tor any lcgislation tor his own tcntioii which it would be dihicult to ac- N - bcnt'llt. cord it at this late stage of the session. ,~ I i ' Mr. CALVIN opposrd the Bill. Mr. DRAGON had often wondered ll by so , u: r Mr. CLARKE (Norfolk) regretted that manyjurors came front one or two munici- I (l _ _ the motion for a six months' hoist was palilicS. and now he learned that the town. L ' madc, as he whlicd to vote on the principle ships were selected alphabetically in ro- ." of the Bill. lie spoke in opposition to it. tation and a selection of jurors made from ', : Mr. CA MF,1t0N exprcsscd himself in those munifiiralities.. He thought the Dill r ll; favour of that section of the Bill requiring wot.tld ttiteet y"' ovil "ill"! had been cx- i , motions forjuo notices tolie struck out to I chricnccd. bump the tumor": in"; ad- . , f be made before ajudge in ('hamlwrs, but he mitted the prinCIple of the Bill, it would be L. _ was opposed to the general principle, and as Well to let it pass the second reading. td intended voting with the Government. It Mr. WOOD had not given the House to J a , ill became the Commissioner of Public understand that the Government approved l i Bl , Works, he thought, to raise a sectional feel. of the principle of the Bill, for they thought i J i. ing by making the insinuation which he did the principle was erroneous. The, Govern.. l ' . against the hon. member for Stormont. ment had cnly stated that no doubt the law ' . Mr. FRASER contended that he had rcquiredaohauge in the respect complained i , made no personal reflections on the hon. of. l a member for b'torrnont (Mr. Bethune), and Mr. BISHOP expressed it as his opinion I L L that Ire, had appealed to 110 tiex:tiotvat fcul- that the Jury Law required amendment, and 1 . ings. lie merely proved that the "Tats of he referred to the experience of the countv , the clause referred to would be that the 'of Huron last soggion already referred ti, , ' "l'oronto practitioners would gain and the i, this day by the lion. member for West _ , I country practitioners lose. I Huron (Mr. Ross). lie hoped the Govern- L L "il Mr. MACDOUGALL (Simcoe; said that ment would deal with the matter. . _ i , there were two principles involved in the 1 Mr. FERRIS thought that the purpose l ' . .. . . iof the lion. mover ot the Bill had been ' I served in eliciting discussion, and he hoped l, the Bill would be withdrawn.