The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 21 Jan 1879, p. 2

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- 7", _ -- "-v- W""""""" all. "-0!!va In. VIIIVI' cutly as Dr. Haney Lti done. Hon. gen- tlemen opposite professed to feel gattatied that the approaching elections would be crowned with the some success as the elec- tions held on the 17th September. He be.. lieved the people would soon dis- cover that the friends of hon. gentle- men opposite had misled them, and unless the local elections came on shortly hon. gentlemen opposite would tind themselves nowhere. (Hear, hear.) It they had confL. dence that the policy of their friends would actually lead to the prosperity which they had prophesied, they would desire the elections to be delayed as long as possible, sotlmt the Conservative party Would get credit- for that prosperity. (Hear, hear.) But their desire Was for tltb,eitctions to come on before the people could see or judge for themselves the legislation which would be enacted. lie belieVed hon. gentlemen were frightened, and he wasnot surprised, because they were conscious of hav- ing misled the people in the late elections. But when another election come about he prophesied that the Reform Government, mstead ot being defeated, would come back stronger in the, faith of the people. The old 1'ory spirit was creeping out among hon. gentlemen opposite, who wanted to take away the representation that the peo. pie, enjoyed. The couaervative party had wright against all the great reforms that had been accomplished in this country, and when they could no longer resist they turned round and accepted what the ltetorm party established. The Conservative party of this country lit the past had attempted to rule the country in the interest of the party. Mr. Sundlieid Miictlonald had fallen in an attempt to gain the sympathy of large corpomtions, so as to rule the country try rings and corporations instead oi by tho free voice of the people. The lteiorm party at that time ale. pooled to the people on the grounds of maintaining popular rights, and the right of every mun to exercise a free vote. The Reform party had Settled the great munici- pal loan innd difliculty with satisfaction to everybody concerned, and to the Reform part y Was due the proud position this 1'ro- vinoc occupied to-day, and had the people remained under the control of the Tories, they would still have been hewers of wood and drawers oi water. The history of the Reform party showed that they had pre. ferred country before party, while to tho Conservatives it was party tirat Mid party always, and country nowhere. (Cheers) The amendment to the amendment was an extraordinary piece of machinery. lie feared his hon. friend the leader of the Op. position would not be able to lead as honestly and fairly as the late leader, to judge by his attitude in the present discus. men. In the House more than in any other place there should be perfect honour mam- tatued among gentlemen, whether on one side or the other. The people would not maintain their confidence in the Opposition if their present course was persevered in. He felt for the majority of the Qpposrtion, ted that Mr. Hedgine, the late member for West Elgin, no longer occupied a mu. in the House; that gentleman had been noted for his geniaiity, his generosity, and fair-mindeduess, and he was ever ready to do a favour for any gentleman on either side of the House, bat he rejorced that in Mr. Hodgiru' succes- sor they had a young man of great promise. m, next referred to the. death of Dr. Haney who was an honest and good man, who hail never shrank tron: a duty in the interests of the country or his constituents. In Ins place they had u gentleman who, he ye.. Jievest, would perform Jis duties as other- for agaihst their "own" honournbfo' wished they were in a meagre forced to acquiesce in this motion. The Province via: an honest Province, and the citizens expected the members to do their duty, and no ' out man begrudged the members the paltry {um they Were paid. A reduction of the indemnity would introduce into this Home the lobbying and corruption so prevalent on the other side ot the line. It the mom. hers on the Government side of the Home had attempted to take such a diehonourahlo "vantage of their opponents, he would nap across the floor of the House and take " not with the members of the Oppolition. He charged the hon. mom. he: for Stormont with iitcotuiisttrttcy in hi. swoches upon the indemnity question. The member for Huron in his speech had come out fairly and honeatly , endatook m. were of the responsibility of the increase of theindomnity. He believed he spoke t/ .the views of hon. member! on both sides of the Home when he said that the indemnity 1," not too much. He believed that white the hon. members of the Opposition pre- tended to desire a reduction they were praying that the indemnity would remain " 8800. The Mail came out very bitterly in opposition to the indemnity of members of this Legislature, but said nothing about those of the Dominion Parliament, tot the proprietor of that journal expected to receive his $1,000 indemnity. The increase in the pay of tuetutmrtrof Parliament had been made under a; Conservative Government by consent of the Opposition, and the Reform journals and members had not attempted to bring it up against the Government, and the country were perfectly tsatisfied that the indemnity should remain as it was. He was sorry that the hon. menthol: for Peter- boro' (My. Scotti. hr mcntint to the ore- Mr. WILSON sum it was very easy to disclaim an organ: when it had done one a little injury. (Hear, hear.) lie had no doubt, the hon. member for East Grey would repudiato any organ that made an injurious assertion against him. (UlleFJ The hon. member for London and the hon. member for East Middlesex (Mr. 'toolcy) he held to ho cl1icfly responsible for this . question being; made a political machine, for those two gentlemen, at a political meet. I ing shortly after the increase, had pledged Jhemselvus to move for it reduction, no matter what the views of the other members of the Home might be. Even if this row. lution were passed. It would not accomplish the reduction sought tor. It would have the effect of removing the present Govern. , went lrom power, but he failed to E know that hon, members opposite F were pledged to reduce their own l salaries if they obtained seats on the Trea- suryhcnchcs. It they really desired to lmakc the reduction, there was a proper I time to have it made. when such 15 motion Mr. BROWN stated that he, had voted foe the reduction of the indunntity, and would do so again. They were sent there to re- present the people, not theruselveg, and they should bow to the will of the people. It had been stated that the Opposition iirst proposed the increase in the indemnity, but he thought, though not much ofa politi- cian, that the Government were responsible for the legislation of the llonse. The mem- bers of the House had been elected on the understanding that tlwit. indemnity should be 316%, and it they had made a mistake in incrmsing the amount. they should not be afraid to make the reduction asked for by the country. He thought the hon. lnmnlm for I\'urth Ontario might leave the members ot the Opposition to attend to their own ttthairs, for if they did that they would hare all they could do. Senate. They had no cl, .rtzml exp-.2118" to pay, and wow perfectly indupctulcmt of their constituents. The hon. member fut" Sim. woe, who had been trammt into moving this resolution, being phwed in a more favour. able position than other members of the Opposition, would do well to withdraw from his position. Mr. ll ILSON expressed his intention of voting against both the amendment and the amendment. to the. amendment. While he thought he could congratulate the hon. mem'oerfor London on being elevated to thelcarlcrship ot tho Opposition,hc was afraid he could not congratulate the party on having chosen that hon. gentleman as their leader. "they could judge ofwhat his conduct in the future would be by his .e - - -. T.i"-'7.N' - w "WV?" sent tiioirtrit/hii'ii plated in danger the high reputation which he had so dcsemmly gai ned in the country. Hamming; to Senator Muvplwrmn, who had so stnnsgiy advucated a t'orltvction in the immunity of members, that guntlcmuumight have very in'opcrly begun by trying to much a n'duction on the money received by members ortho Very fast act, they had not much reason to expect, that he would occupy the position so ably and honotualsly as it had been 0c. envied by the Into hon. member for East- 'i'otouto. After the lion members ofthis House entered into a solemn oom- pact, it wns to he regretted that any hon. gentleman should consent to violate such a binding and lasting engagement. He held that it was the duty of the hon. member for London, the instant that his own organ, the London Herald, haul mado uso of this compact for political purposes, to have, publicly repudiated it. Mr. LAU1)ER--'ihe, hon. member for London says he has no organ .

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