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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 13 Feb 1879, p. 4

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Mr., MEREDITH said that the policy of tho Government appeared to be that it the wholo expenditure on capital account were done away with the expenditure in the Vepartments would remain the same. The iterm was passed, as were the follow. ing iteams:--$19,672 for public works, and $1,2vi% £ agriculture. On the item $1,400 for immigration, Mr, MEREDITH said that the services ol the secretary under this head might be dispensed with, now that the amount tor immigration had been vyery much re-- duced,. Mr, WOOD said that the ofticer was a nccessary one, and could not be weli done without, as there was still counsiderable work to be done by him. Mr. FRASER said that such was not the case, as though the expenditure on capital account might be small, the work in the Departments might still be maintained at the same volume. 'Mr. HAY was in favour of retaining the services of Mr. Spence, the secretary re-- fcrred to. He believed, in view of the de-- siro at the present time of the tenaut farmer anu other classes to emigrate, that it wonld bo dosirable to have fuller information dis= tributed in the Old Country as to the ad. vantages possessed by the various portions of the Province, Thas information might be obtained and distributed'through the agency of Mr, Spence without entailing any moreagod expguuse. On the item $250975 for Secretary and Rogistrar's Oflice, Mr. SCOTT asked if the Act regarding the Civil Service which had been passed last scssion, had yet been put into force . Mr. HARDY said that the law had only been in force sbout a mouth, 'The classifi. cation of clerks had not yet been completed. After further discussion the item was passed, as was also $16,000 for the Trea-- surer's Oftice. Mr. LAUDEA asked tor an expilanation of the sum of $100 paid to J. D. Edgar as | law costs. There was a law cleork connected with the Crown Lands Department, whose duties, ho understood, were to attend to legal business. heliibet. t OniiinPrntnipilieds ilintids ies s ds | Leis C 4d the Government, and that undoubtedly they would not be deceived by Lulnboug. He then proceeded to discuss his election in East Toronto, and spoke generally agaiust the clection policy of the Reforin party. HMoe denmicd that he had given authoiity to the statement made during that clection that he would buy a d welling. house and take up his residence in the city, The item was passed, as was also that of $50,780 for public institutions, Mr. Mord-- dith on the lattor item declering his inten-- tion to move in the proper place for a re-- duction in the salary of Mr., Langmuic. On the item of $50,789 for Crown Lands Department, Mr. MEREDITH asked for an explana-- tion of the decrease that had taken place in that itemm since last year. Mr. PARDEE said that the decroase was in the contingency fund, and that the re-- mainder ot the decrease was caused by the dispensing with the services of one of the clerks. the Ifop (1.fi,}:[CICMIN§ to the speech of the Hon. Commissioner of Public Works, said that that gentleman was apparently the prophet of the Ministry. -- He had said that he believed the people of the country would not be deceived by humbug, ant would again return the Goverunment to power. He (Mr. Morris) believed that the voice of the people would be found against . y vnranin db x Prbdumwr Mr. MEREDITH said that a sum of $200 bad been paid to Mr. Cowper, an officer of the Woods and Forests branch, for extra services. Mon,. gentlemen had when in Opposition contended for the principle that no sums should be paid for extra services to officers in the employ ot tho Govern. ment. The House again oft Supply. / Mr. MORRIS ram uan. Mr. PARDEE said that that gentloman's duties were entirely distinct from the car-- rying on of suits, for which the expense re-- forred to was incurred., 'The amount had MORRIS,'re_lcrring BJIPPLY, asked tor an explanation went that un@qqgt'pdfj into Committee Mr. SCOTT claiined that the Inspector of Division -- Courts -- had really no power, as any Division Court offi= cial might rsfuse to show him the books | of the Gourt, Special provision, however, \ was made for the inspection of Registry 'fices, and to prevent mistakes and insure the cfliciency of Registrare the Inspector was necessary . Mr. HAY, as a Division Court clerk of | some years' standing, was prepared to con-- '\fess that the Inspector was nocessary. | There was an extraordinary difference in | the taxation in different Courts, and a regu» i lar system should be enforced. The people did not want this officer cut ol --they | wanted a more thorough inspection, and to | do this it was necessary to give him more extended powers. _ There were greedy | bailiffs and greedy clerks who had bled the : people pretty freely in the matter of costs, and it was greatly to the interest of the poo-- ple that the office of Inspector should be continued. * been paid as costs in a lawsuit which had been allowed to be entered against the Government. Mr. mOWAT said that it had always been the practice to employ legal assist= ance for such suits. Mr, DEKROCHE said the Division Court was of more real practical use to the bulk of the people than any other. County Court judges had tho patronage of the Courts in their ow n hands, and the relatives of judges generally occupied the position of clerks and bailifis. Therefore this oficer was ab-- solutely nccessary, 'The Inspector of Regis-- try |Oftices might perhaps be dispensed with. He was a political friend of gentle-- men opposite, and had been appointed to servo.party ends. . . .0. ))0 0 --. .t.... Mr. SCOTT asked if the Commissioner of Crown Lands had taken into considera-- tion the claim of Mr. Hillyard of $10,000 against the Crown Lands Dopartment. Mr., PARDE®K said that the claim, had not yet been recognized. The item was thon passed. On the item $9,960 for miscellancous, Mr, MERRICK said that the office of Inspector of Division Courts should be done away, with as irregularities when they occurred wore rectified by the judges. Mr. MEREDITH thought the work might easily be done within the Depart-- ment. 'The present system was carried on merely to give omployment to legal friends of the (Government. Mr. PARDEE said that the mattor had been under his consideration and that of the hon. Attorney.Gencral, but since the origi-- nal claim had been made, a Mr. Moray had sent in a petition claiming the money. Mr. SCOTT asked whether the Gov-- ernment had recognized the claim at all. Mr. MEREDITH claimed to have a prac-- tical knowledge of this matter, and he be. lieved that the true solution of the difficulty was to have one fes only in each suit, If an inspection were necessary one officer could not perform all the work to bo done. Mr., CURRIG thoughs if the County Judges would each devote one or two days in the year to inspecting the affairs in the courts in their respective districts the In-- spector would not be necessary,. In many counties, however, judges would not do this, He belicved the Iuspector had saved more money to the people ten times over than he received in salary, He would im-- press upon the Goveornment the view that this session they should clearly define the duties aud give statutory powers to the In:-- spector, He believed that the office of lInspector of Registry Ofiices might be abolished with advantage to the country. Mr, FERRIS said the juggaes had no time to dversee the keeping df adtounts and re-- cords of their courts, _ Books of a regular authorized form and a gence-- 'ral system . of keeping the records Mr. GIBSON agreed with the last speaker as to doing away thoe Inspector of Registry Offices, HMe thought also the patronage of the County Courts should be taken from the County Judges, and either given to the Government of the day, or that the Attorney.General should have the sanction-- ing power, --If gentlemen opposite, in their desire for economy, would move to do away with the Inspector of Registry Of-- fices they would have his votoe. Mr. FLESHER thought that as the In. spector of Division Courts had no statutory power his continfance was unnecessary .

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