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* ' r' "'j ' § y [ | , ple? Simply because the judges felt '; E themselves perfectly independent. It f woulsi be a discreditable thing it such a 6 Pronnc9 as Ontario should attempt to -- P ho break faith with her judges, for it amounted t to that, A thousand dollars or ten thou. ' | sand dollars was a small matter as compared . 2 | v with the dignity and rectitude of the Bench, $ h ® F h Mr, DEACON suggested to the Chairman «[ § that this item was one upon which this 6 House could not vote, and it therefore | should be ruled out of order. He thought i¢" | s | it a most unfortunate thing that a discus= | °; ' 34 -- , sion should have taken place upon it. } ts A 2 f Yeas --I _ The CHAIRMAN ruled that, as this item | | ; _ 3 ' had been voted upon every year, it was one | !~ M f s | upon which a yote might properly be ; a i¥ )| R tiken. . E Mr, PAXTON said that in a sum of this «3 magnitude the motion was a wise one, and §-- he would support it. J a 13 ,__ Mr. FERRLS said the legal fraternity in 4 :s p the House were a unit upon avything . .M : ' affecting gentlemen of the long robe, He did not believe that our judges were over. y f paird, but he would like to quote from the [ S f list of salaries in a country quite as able to + oob es gs! pay as the Province of Ontario. The e . 0 ; Judges of tho Supreme Court in the United l E. States were naid $10,000, and the others | t & ' received $6,000. | 3 ' Mr, BETHUNE----These are the National | , f judges, 'FThe Superior judges ofNew York } o \ 3| got $15,000 a year each. } 6 P i ~\ f Mr, FERRIS continued that legal gontle-- | _ ww > B men in the House secemed to think that > 2 ~. though any other part of the Civil Service §R ~% TTE | might be treated in any way they pleased, ho. f '% 6 ten J d f . when it came to a question affecting the '5\ §: 4 legal protession the Housoe should not fi?fi;' « - touch upoun it. T in ® % Y3 -- Mr. CODE agreed with the last speaker % To: that this item was one which might well ; " 5.. I bo voted upon. He was: prepared to vote | :. Aal 8 --<~ | + against granting the amount, onfthe ground | a*_" o | that the increase had been made by the | \ $~ . . l Dominion Government and should be paid | \ M by theom. | Mr. BRODER thought it an unfortunate | & thing taat this discussion had degenerated | f l ~@ into a dispute between the laymen and * members ot tho legal protession, Every e e hon. member would be willing to give the | : judges of the land such a position and such es ~J+ 6 | support as to remove them completely out x l of the reach of any taint of dishonour. He k o w2 }~~ | thought gentlemen did not accept the ie . | position of judge because they got a certain tz tek:~> | salary with it. A seat on the Bench was to xk youe _ be considered an honour, and gentlemen k g T3 > who accepted it recognized the hon-- hk ( > our conferred upon them. He beligved * E.: lt inss there was no understanding with the i4 o * ~t% | ' Dominion Government as to what salary s K 1oe . | should be paid to the judges--if there was + $ "<a 2. _ ' that contract should be kept. 'The Do-- g%& $ \ minion (Government having appointed the S 7 s | judges should take the responsibility of ~# es paying their salaries,. k | Ex" _/ E The resolution was lost on division , t is -- 5 f The item was declavred carried. C > > The amount of $4,900 was voted for & _ P Practice and other Courts, P '_ § With regard to the item Criminal Justice, | $164,000, § c | _ Mr. MEREDITH desired to have an ex-- w m & J planation concerning the item $10,000 for ; a | Crown counsel prosecutions, as he found it f $11,200 the year before, ' > | _ Mr. MOWAT said it was almost a matter | * f of conjecture as to what the amount would k : be, but it had been thought that the amount asked for would be suflicient, f Mr. MEREDITH thought the members * of the Ministry should take more active part personally in these cases, as nearly n!l | of them were in the legal protession. 'This Mr. Wood--On We would save the fecing of so many Iawyetrs. | Committee on 1 ' l -- Mr. ROSS desivred to direct the attention | lowing resolution :-- | f of the Government to the saving which | ernor in Council ma | might be effected by being more careful of | his discretion, inves | & the number of witnesses paid in criminal | of two hundred thou | cases. A large number of witnesses were | in ghe tenth sectic a \ called and paid who were aot atall necessary | Drainage Act in th -- to the cases in connection with which they | bentures issued und . | § eared in Court. deposited with the ( 3 ' | 4 apx;h MEREDITH said there appeared in | culture, together wi § : the Public Accounts an amount of about | | Reeve in the formn ; fa 4 3.000, *which the Province paid for the | | and C. of the said A | Bssy on in Iod ty ihs Baotite n | | Arhepronget man 1 | \ ince o # | -- l:h°"°1d uoe be borne 'by 'the ProY ' propriety of investm R I * | 3 * fn-_ MOWAT said that under the present | umenensmem | ® 1