The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 27 Feb 1879, p. 4

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"s " ol o s e i ® fl -- Sle ~C~ °C * o e P S t t 9 es ) C ',;'. f j y A 's 4 C \',.*"'1:"» RA aACE . & '5"" P --'F ° yeP 85. stt e J e o aneegede,.", .. _ ; I . E_ mt mn . _ * oaie Senes . | that it mi e greatest possible 3 | ui dlF, WAUDER pointed out that the expen-- benedé to the counto, * _° . t A il in the Colle e tion | . ::3::': Si%%r w!l):;l':: the actual vote only al . Mr. FERKIS said that b::',ong'-)'%cut it f 4 lowed them about $260. 'The institution taken was not an o ob ommnins che report + | :u a most expensive one, and the educa-- | the OPP""'"":: d.'o;ll the:?:(txmation they § | tion received there cost more than in any | ""'-; i:o(:inm * | s s s j re * -- 1 on anemenn n th?aht(l:": Ct';.e manner :[r MERRICK asked the hon. gentle. f 3 sai at th t * 4 i '; f inh\'vi;wb;h;fif z?cltflzlnts of the College were mangvir:x:: the amount paid to the pupils t E P | ba j he Provine e Was * m : kep:odeffizve:"t;! ein ?ll:nlgh cfineitr :no'uey was Mr, WOOD said that he had stated that 's}'_ | :;ent It appeared that an amount over the pupmh were gai% .31 ;m;o:; lpe:hl;g;xg:;ci £. | t r riels p o CAP and above that voted by the Legislature that at the en [:vaa :xpendcd in the College, and yet they | often amounted to a sum equal to their 3 had no details as to how that money was | board, and sometimes to more, | 'hid out, Who was to control that ~extra Mr. FERRIS contended .thag all .the f !expeuduure't He maintasined that the information that could possibly be given $ Ee | salaries paid to the officials were altogether was set out in the report, The nature of $ [ff . nmemtunis *4 1o." mt oomaibinis Aoip t mebnere 3 Te io t 4 i lassificati F iblo to 3 f 5:): e;p:ndfture, by which the salaries ::;thod' of bookkeeping as was required by 3 ! paid to women servauts were made 't*orap} hon, gentlemen opposilt:, f.'fne greaft ?;;. 3 j as expenses, He couid concéive o q ibited by the mers o e 9 - 5:. rruason fulzetho chauge unless. it was a ;r:nt:;hx& obtuix{ copies of the an. s f § desire to make it Appear that the salavies | fual report -- showed _ that fi.ley ap-- J ,:,;»: P . had been cut down, while such was hot the appreciated the work that was bemg d(tm': s fact, ~ | in the College, The experiments conducte a 3 Mr. WOOD said that the salaries paid in | there were of the greatest value, and he » ¢ ' the Coilege were no larger than in institu. | had been solicited for the reports to a much tions ol a similar character in the United greater degree than he had been able to States, 'The principal received ©2,000 & comply with. It was idle to ulk of the year, while the average salary paid to uresi-- pupils costing $400 a year each, for if every f j dents ot such colleges in the United States ' item of expense were reckoned, students A was $3,300, and never less than $3,000. He attending the higher educational institu. t 3 repelied the insinuation that any change tion vost very much more, d + | had been made in the manner of'classuymg s ~Mr. CREIGHTON maintained that the é f ;l the items for 'hl*'hl'"".'t"'" °fr";":_'r':;"' ';'o"'ho,:; increased efficiency of the Couegefwu :zry . | of economy, 'The items referre C riticism from that ; ' | | Mo;cmc:el{' transferred to the head of ex. + :'i'::'; f'i':e'gg:'"'f' "Ilfecpoin h ed dutthat 'i't f ; | penses, with the effect, of oo o e was impossible to tell the exact amount ; ' f ing that expenditurs as much as the satary allowed the pupils for their labours. -- The ' t ) account was reduced. He contended that object for which young farmers went to the ~ ( | it was unfair to charge the interest upon College was to learn how to make a jarm A j \ :?;ei tceag::;: u;;;Zt:;le ms:ll:-fx ;nsct(::ll::leonw Z: pa{i' mdh how c;;uu:htheyt:'cnfomt;;ll;;b tg?; > * . As i when _ a e & C : a new one, and was not employed in cun-i :(;t carn enough to keep themselves ? f ~% rnection with a.ny' Other mfnnutmu. Leaving out of account the salarles paid to & Mr, MERRICK compiained of the state. the officials, the amount expended on the & ments in the report from the _b°h°°l, College was about $11,000. 1t bhad been of Agriculture as being so gencral as said that the experiments conducted there to give fu(;h mtf""n"""';'t as to ta§h3 were of much lvla\luu, 'll)ilt he tm,tllled like tto receipts o e farm. was state know what the millers of the coun ty that clortai;: re:;ipts ":"0 ({)L;:';i ";';n would think of the tfi'mill(i(ng pxroporticsf of the saie of products, C A (~ wheat being ascertained by means o C tails were given, and they_ were {eft mht'he coffee--mill, (Hear, hear.) 1f the fu?n,?ng , dark both as to the way in which t ese experiments were conducted in a similar 1 "'.cf"g':h Mats "bt"'""(;i d""d the way in \ _ manuer h? dig not flunk much reliance j whic &y were expended,. \ , could be placed upon them, a f 1 ««< Mr. GRANGE said that when it was """\" Mr. MASSIE reminded the House that s considered that the tarm contuined 550 last session the hon.member for Kast Essex, , acres, that a large amount ?f ll,','bw' d""" x supported by the hon,. member for South Grey, | expended upon it and considerable produce | had threatened to move a resolution thai | raised, and yot that there had to be spent | £ the farm should be sold, and the proceeds | over and above the receipts s::u";_hmg ll;]f;!'. | \ distributed among the agricuitural societies _ ' $21,000 for its maiitenance, the farme it ot the country, 'There bad been much im. the country would begin to think that i provement in the condition of the farm t j was a protty expensive institution. since its inauguration, and it was unfair to [ I It being six o'clock the Committee rose f say that the oflicia'lq of the ins;timtion f E and roeported, and the Speaker left the *\ should not be pard a fair remuneration, He P J chair , \ thought that too much land had been " ; Afier recess, bought for the farm, and considered that if > $ Mr. MERRICK objected to the passing two'lmm.llrg(:j ?crteh' wcret'fsold, a;nd thty p:-rl)- 4 [ I of the item untit a detailed account of the ceeds applied to the erection of new orrid. % # f Ltdr ings and the improvement of the existing [ <l extra receipts and espenditures over and the efficiency of th jcutj | ' above the annual vote was brought down, $o ht 3 he? eu"'f 0f the institution would < | He thought such a statement mighs be pre-- yE e oD O C Shcteased . ' pared and givenr to thoe House by to-- Mr. GRAHAM was glad to hear a mem-- morrow. ber of the Oppqntu_)n prophesying the suc-- Mr. CREIGHTON also thought that a .ctefls'o'{ the imt_xtutxzn. f He had no doubt 34 statement of the moneys dealt with in the if was expensive, ut there never was a | w * Agricultural College beyond the annual @orernment affair that did not cost rather & u:propriationl should be givem the House. more than it ought. He regretted that The extra amount might have becu spent | sufticient comparisons had not been mado ' in supplomenting the salaries of the ' in the report, _ For instance, lhe wonld ' oflicials, or in other equally objectionable | like to have seen Comiparisons made be. ways, and the House bhad no meaus of know tween lands drained and undrained . ing it, He suggested that next year a Commit_ T .. Mro MIDLRI did not seo how it was iviatea h Took ie ned . eroild (be, apc $ BobsiPe for tho Freasurer to give minute stitution in the summer. -- He wgus glad to | i (lll(l}(t:?lu:hgf'ttlil:ii:: rkifig :::hat:':O:il: gdc t"pon $ see that the farmers w eve taking an interest } s i tprised to see in the College, and that farmetrs' sons were I } representatives of rural constituencies sit. 4 § 3 ting on the other side of tho House de. , attending it more than'formerly. He sup. 5 ppuncing the Agricultural College, and se | boted the motion cordiatly, -- (Cheers,) { thought they were doing the institution | Mr. HAYX read from the report of the k much harm by doing so. The farm was |institution -- in Michigan to show that doing immense benefit to the young farmers the salaries paid there were 52(1'000' $ of the country, and it was, after all, the annua{ly, and the total expenses $46,-- | agricultural interest that was the basis of 000, independent of what was --mad? the prosperity of the country , out of the farm. 'The property re-- ; ipPkn:i it; & $310,000, 1Hs was | ' Mr. MEREDLTH protested against th PeCb uLh Arabial of $310,000, | method of keeping l;h. acoou'ngtu of :h: sorry to see the O'pl)osmou n'.ymg 'to re-- ! s 044C . farm, and said that they on that side of duce the salary of the head of the Col] ge. | 4 That gentleman had to have an education | l sipah were not Dopared to the farma, equal to that of any legal gentlieman in the P 2 ® it . . at. [ but wished it to be efliclently,carrxed oB. 80 | House, and in the matter of intelligence | $ &

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