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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 5 Mar 1879, p. 5

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', L ' C" _ef_". ," an _ ltd 4 3. . - l -iNMMi l , .. f..: T _ '; I-Fic) '., _,' i WM " 'ert%8ferob"'.; - ", ", . . _ ' _ ss:it'% "We. t old-gag; viury, . _ . " "a ' __ t'tiiTihih"iit' positions in'this can , and there was ' - " i, i hardly any position which was firm: to them, In i attttttiTitFEt "I "mltDattttett 3 I an' arbitration any young lawyer. owcver small his , ' 00mm, . l experience or abit ties, could claim a fee twice as l - ' t large ll that of) the most able layman in the ecun- l Toaom, h 4 , try. been. . . In" . Mr. SCOTT ssid no doubt the hematite Treasurer, I oSfr1dit't,',tlt't,lyt thid morning, Mr. Hardy, t wouidntecine time have suiliciout igtiutustm with t The i . is. tedb " Chi , . his colleagues to induce them to reduce lawyers , f ',,'iytl't,titf,'! ','llr,fftl t'ad r. h.osltolm at a l ' ' foes. lie thought the arguments of the hon. gentle o eds b "Mung. Driver; all: r for: slum selling l l 'i men were unworthy ot him, and would reflect more it: nil their: "a: e'd e mun p yin which ' . q - upon him and his party than upon their opponents. t or tt . . _ .. I . . 1 ere not On motion ot Mr. Mums, an amendment was car. f . It bud been a complaint tint tnc ' hymen w l d lucin the ex nditure upon police " f r a ','gleii,g'i1', trrttietf, in "to J"P1'gyfu'a.,"d 212,15": 'l'h wages ttl concerned, uddtrr "'1. corttrzl . _ . su' Dustin t is represeu sum " Put. - . ' . . ' . 'ge,":','," had" c0380 from {he'd o/fight', but j Ittgt'.'"u in cities. of not more than 10,000 m- never from " overumen si e o tt once. . . . t . it ,wns surrly not exactly a very. favourable I i ngrAmfill;gfiifix:d::?tiu:dlel§£gmyfgg thing to tho laymen of tho House, that flyf-Iixtlll of _ "But jud e sheriil' and such person as the council thewubinct were lawyers,en¢l onlyouetsixtlt oi them i will" , an." 'iilii'r tir" meeting Illall constitute laymen. The argument about the surplus wns_an " a 3593" the revision." GGGrh ts "when ' extraordinary one. l'eriups it was tram the fact _ n "In" be crude under certain form's . the Go dl?. that there was nsnrplus that the salaries had been _', tttl/d,',' municipality m" ole: . to "da rd for the . a.)::..::I'diglt(llie':(tg.gnA;c'8v°t:rl?lsl::':cdll:p:ll:ovzl?; '/lylil'hu'lll of criminals; persons interested in o - l m - c unpleasant fact of direct taxation. The suggestion I any Compagy gue t',',ot 2r'c"tt'l, t, briaw l . that this motion was aimed against the iuytnen of I is .rslglguihe duir,'f'l,', boundary of . 1%?2313, i ' . ii" country'was Mill more upwurtur ot the hon. tNu- n 0 ruin the Township Cauncil on bein requested l omen. When tho salaries were int-roused home "no: I tor me'causes. new mu 'lf the t l years ago was there . any suggestion , to nducethe by t l "I": 'lllh1tl to be Urte at; ainst JI slot: , gwysr'snilecs 1-131?! this had been done, macro Tle, ti: 3:38:12 p, ' . o t . r some mgr to soy cation now ma e. , ere .. ' . ' I F', was no purullol between" the fees cf lawyers and I The 1:53 which, _"3t'/'u1',c'lg,l drought: t'h" ' li salaries ototlicite, The Governmont had nothing one int'd not;o by k a; m n mile. 'li "elm" f, i l whatevor to do with the fees of lawyers '" that was it with I "if no e tlt s, ow rusting t , _ _ matter entirely brtwceu the lawyer and the client, 3"511m:fi'fflm'i'xffi§hsrpe§fivf§u§°§i§§fi§£3§ _ 't h. Mr. WOOD-I said taxable ices. I in ttus '/g,thi,ed,tr 1tiaving than a," to decide. I 'g: Mr.SCO'l'T tsoutintted--3o hon. friend had said i The Bill was amen d to - only the pawn in l a _ dielTwwns made pirate mine)! thhun other classes. . the adjoining municipality. l, . b I e, towvver, porn c out! at t e eanineutlawye" i g in this city were perhaps tho only ones who were l , . Co 'tt t o'i,"lef,'i"t'.'lfe.'h. 5. l melting money, and they were not so Th ". min}: tl use ' M" 'tth on. A, S ), tpg',',".'?,',', tl, Tarte,.,',, 't'"', Gum." Til e At- "tphat/I' (introduced a section to be added to I _ ornn - nor a warm .rm . r . - _ . v F Tlt,',; of the matter, rind had tin tilgt 'l? are ' the Municipal Act by which the Municipal Councils l T advantage of the {shin prices to decrease salaries ' 'tift'idgg,'2"l,', 30%|ng 15,000 segfJ,,t"li't1'y, " q wasamost tutguteqtnttnlike thin . _ - 4 enum run so . e remuneris on 0 men General, in uniting that statements,' ',d1itiaha'enr,'i'ti constituting the police force, all such arrangements . himself and his own record, because ho had not to be 'rittdittg "PW hoards of Poliga Commissioners. _ long ago taken nivuntugc ot a rise in prices to in- wow" k' Bill . crease tho salaries. and he (Mr. scan) contended 'h on 3 I ' enacting that ceroners' to" . that the argument watyust as forcible in one case " shoal be tal by the "tttttumm oi the county when in the other. 1n the Auvoruey-0oneral" own De- an inquest is held In the county, and by the treasurer pertinent the salaries had very upprorinbly increased, . 'lf, a city when J. 'dcuth occurs and the tngt"gt held having risen trom $7,000 in loft to sham m 1878. t all? of/1gT'lffli hit th d Ft that increase trad hour J'uittifiect llpOll the plea that tse' . as: . I Prov " " no some. alum a; prions had greatly risen, and he thought the some .'.Sio.W!'. " t'"ptsc.t of tr.mseyste 1torttmittad by A, $1 reason should now lead to a decrease. i 2331:: :'ig,t,te/te'l, iamlg ."t gg,',f2t and Parry " , t .., . we " am is in cm an ' . ."C _ Mr. 1311318 said that the Potiyo.tt tha hon. Trea- , ivy-law in that behalf is in force no L1'elJ'ht'a'ittt, o: eurcr had taken was that It hon. gentlemen , recovered unless the animal shall have jumped over i, I,', on the front benches cope-Ito were really in car- ( a fence four feet six inches in height, the Act not to t nestin the desire to save moth-y to the country, they ' apply to unruly or brcuchy animals, was carried. __ would strike at the [are of that class which wax built . - ' Bill ' . a, . . . Mr. honor: I l , No. IM, relating to the furnish- rt". upnnd hedfed aboutwith legislation. The pol. mg of accommodation to county ciiiciuls "a. con- " tron of "do grl pron tf"dt "in: r,tu4t that the hard . solidnted with Bill No, 85. ' r " noes me e no lease u t lair emoluments, but Mr. CoutW Bill pro Oslo to include the . E," . on the contrary, " increased them. The result of arbitration U,1UTlf wits drainage in M35392]! ' that stateot things ought to be that whenever hard debenturos issued for drainage purpose. w. car. I tunes visited the country every ntetubur of the legal ried. ' > profeeston should immediately reduce his foes. Mr. Springer withdrew his Bill to allow towns to , It was laid that hon. gentlemen or the long robe reduce the number of councillors in certain cases. , hadI 't,"1g,""lt 2t tl than emoluments to ttCOW" Mr. MC\VlLl.lADiS, City Solicitor of Toronto asked i 3 'l'le"'sd.!Jl, 1'lh 'l, blend '",yriufu, the to have a clattre added to the Municipal Act by I r ' " 0sgoodo ii% Bat such a sdll.'U'J f.! "Wt uhich City Councils should have the power of reg". ' , borne oat b the facts, because the protestant! E3: lilting shops for the sale of seconddnnd goody. The l , back much slow in the way of law reports thr n tl prupoenhwue lost on u division. He also proposed i. '5 sun they contributed m that MN n th t . " I." that bi'ctlolli should be added to the Act giving City the money came out ofthe Jil',,', 0 .. umut rev. P. l'ouucils and Boards of Police, where they have the l " Me inted out tho radical 5mg. Ok b 1° 11°09 e, power to issue licenses, the right to regulate the fees i ' r','a'lllll of the 10831 1tu'e"d'i'ftt so??? the l to be paid for such licenses. and togivc City Council; lic, mainder ortttts iJirll','i'n1 5 'dt f i P ye. powertocnter into contracts extending over more ' Fe comes to tt J'l"dl'fl"fdl't i', Ill,,'.",')), 0 limit in- '. than one year, such contracts not to be binding un- ' j _ thi a ct . tyf . t iO g.'."'a'u'Y ', less ratified by a three-fourths vote of tho "1.01. . t muld' r tl "23° "0i o flf,th', "Within! and Council, and notto extend beyond ten years. The yf, co tf th 'l',','l,.11 "h 12 din, uf. " m" 003' clauses were adopted. A proposal to relieve City .5 'k trary o th tt Bl? r t o t , mutations of the Councils of the necessity of advertising by-iaws other cr, ooautry at "Yu. . til-IN pt I'. Pp.' uhpultl than money by-luws mu rejected on a division. h".', exist. He was ot opinion that the sum that the non. t'laurars purporting to mute sewer rates a tax upon If.r., , Treasurer had .tas.t.td a. the "mag thilt would re- k pinpu'iy, and rmpuwcttug City Councils to borrow .. _ cult mm a reduction ot teu percent. m '"iru It', m'ntt'y on other Securities than promissory notes , magic! it Tl 2,1',','a lie protested Elaine: he mm, atdopteni. U'-' It. tat iii oenme 'dlustiuc 0th x. . tit grsva'gsnoe or the Governmt'bnt in the flTi1 e", 1"iJy/pt"/t,y pointed out that a change was re. LI "?, , . 4 which the amendments werc aimed. 0f the normal quire} m m; i.ate, it) tt"i',2l, Q "imtit' "ttalter " ' [ y Provincial revenue ot nearly two millions, nearly candidates atttg put MW" u "may" 'tomr' Il ' 4 one-half went back directly to the people, ind was natientr. _, _ i expended by agencies entirely beyond the control oi The Committee resolved to recommend that no . , I the House. He did not wish to set class against person should be allowed to be nominated for u mu- , ll 3 class in the House or inthe country, but when hon. nicipul election unless with his express consent, and ' * l members attacked laymen in the Civil Service, while that candidates should be permitted to retire at any V" l refusing to acoomodate their own fees to the stale of 4 time betweon nomination and election by giving . t the times, it was well to show the country the hollow. nonco in writing to the Clark, , , nose ot their profession"- F The Committee adjourned at 10.55. ' MLCUBRIE proposed ts vote both againstiho ', l e _ stnendment and the amendment to the amendment. F 'err-ep..','."..,".."-".",'..',.".-...".,."..."..".,", ", The latter motion was of a sweeping character, or .d - - - -- l wan put forward, he supposed, with a View to _ alleviating hard times. (Hear, hear.) It was I moved, he so posed. in the interests of the constr- l tnents of the hon. member for East Toronto. _ I Amen them nearly half 0. million dollars was ex- | , peach-g by way of 1imeial salaries. and it was surely _ E ' a direct way of benedtting them to curtail in l i l comes in the way proposed. (lieu, hear.) Mr. l j Scott was appointed at a salary originally of $l,600, _ i , . and had the liberty when tirat aspointed of oxorcir r, i ing his profession. After he ha served the Pro- 4 i , Vince one year Mr. Handheld Macdouald raised his 4 i I sula to $2,000, and in 1873 the hon. member for I ' Nora Benfrcw had voted to raise it to $3.000. lie 2 1 bad not the slightest hesitation in saying that it Mr. ' F Scott went out of his ottiat to-morrow he would make » ' two dollars in the practice of his profession for "cry _ ' onc he was making new, . ' n being six o'clock, the Speaker left the chair. u A . :,; mum-weer ornate. i s'i: . In the report of Mr. Howst's speech on this grab. ' ject in Tuesday's Goons Sir Edward Thornton was represented " occupying the position of representa- "ti' l tire of the Imperial Government in the arbitration. , " What was said was that he was chosen the third ' ' . _ ' arbitrator between Ontario and the Dominion. In - - ' l the same report the sum stated to intro been" paid by 1 " C3 , the United States " Alaska should have been , - , l 37,200,000 instead trrt20Mto. It may added that I , . f the distsnee of 700 miles referredto the speech is i " ' the distance from Lake Tenniscnrmngm westward to I i , _ the North-West Angle of the has or the Woods. , i l

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