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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 7 Mar 1879, p. 3

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V I V' . I 'C T v " F I _ _ FV C T -- . " "p.72"; i TST/i) , 5 I '. I' ilrr" "I' a I . . 2 J no; . l _ _ . . ller norm. O'Dotut -- V if , Laws atc-Nation, Nessie, blaster. lliller. ttlow", Xenon. Mess". ilgtt,i', 330%, Boss. tieartop, . _r-crl, I o'lioi'ioglnw. "idea, Patterson, Preston, Robinson. hue, Purdeo, 2,'d springer t7t7irlsr,3iiit-ortA, 'rf-a I Ross Sestott, timcGir, Bpruypr., titribsr, Wetter iteii1,t,.tu1'y%'iff2llt Wilson. wood--". 9"!» V worth, wmuitii-hi, willisms, Wilson, Wood-49. Widdmdd. oarriod "re, F, The amendment was carried by s unsuinious vote. . The resolution was i 0139 Mo Court of Queen" sr, I . . ' N r. SCOTT movd that the te, 't't,"g'Jl"2hnt, "2:1 resold to tho tam i I I t '2' - . . gunman not so to Ben ' . a. 's git 'tt,',,wctt,',t'yt21n!hll'f, With instructions _tt,1it1.kf Mr. 'LAUDER moved in ,etitttt,tPSer,'l'l of 7 _ I IIB oat this item two, saust ot m. U'ltrrk m tlu, "w" _ of 3709 be otruoe out, tremit the an "Guam ot ', 4 1 t . Cl trot Process. and that. ' 58 " , in Chancery. Asisrsat " . "and" over $000. none I " M' .% Mr. McMAR0N moved in smendrnent that th to per -temt" be we Iii" mount , t, to" -ls "ummn be not now concurred in. butttust ithe tomuduced belewt th foil wing divi-' LP, referred buckto the committee of Supply ly,', "I- The monument wee lost on e o J , "i,, otruetious to strike out the item 3400 ty. the clerk slon '.-- T ".' n _ ot ttus Glow" in (:hsncory, the opinion oi this Home Y " -ageasra.Btdrer, Barr, Bell, Bonner, Brod". L. fl being that the likeduties might be performed by the Bro:n .Unlvin Code, Coutte. Creighton, "no". 4, t F omit Assistant of this uou"atan.tucorth" 18,5311"! nuke} Gren'ge, Kathi". Kean, Jltgfg/, ,'itlt M" I .1 i . ot'S'.00. iriiilai ucuowul. tiirrtyiit.t" "n" ' . ' _ i " ' t Mr. SCOTT contended that the mendment to the ',tell'f "iiaiyd Purithill, puma, ranch, i'tt l EN unendincm nu out ot outer. "dson, BMVOU, Scott, £1001", W "s I . " I ' e H'M, N . SPEAKER ruled thitt it was In order. Wills -.84. i to I»; b Mi. MOWAT me that in: were edvrsuble that Nars.--Mrtee Appuhr, nmsntyne, 3-star. l t the duties of the omoe should ho attached to thoee Bishop.' .Bonfield, 1giti.uoltrt, Clerks (Norton: . otsosno other omeial, " "now" much betterto Clarke (Wellington). Cole. Croott, Qurru, I" . ' , attach Joan to mo" of the Ulerk of th.tPfy"',t or roohe Ferris Finlsyton. Freeer. Gibson. Grshenti - t the Clerk of the Executive ceyteil, htuce. how Grunt, Enoch". Herd! Ruin". Hey, Hunter, ' r eve-r, inn. gentlemen opposite hyl moved to Lune. In", (Alums). Lyon (Hilton): HOCIMIG', l l abolish tlse omoy and " Igic own oplulbll W!" "of! l ii'iifi'G McKee. Maaiso. Maater, 'ilur, Mowat, '; ". " iuiaeour of mo wwwwo' the omeial, he wnul '0,"Kiicilui Ponies, Patterson. Robinson. lee ' i, " have no liesitiitiou iii votiuit tur "10 'xusc'ne"'nti, Sexton Sinclair. iinetiuuf..re. tlirrie.ttt,r, tittiPr, , , . Mr. canons maid that it new"! to him Fiii'iArdiitTirudituu, Williams, "use". Wood I Cd that the ametidruettt to Itlm Jun-militant woe out in .47. I I r) , , _. ordur, its " proposed to increase the tailor! ot an 0111- The resolution '3. then concurred in. i I . _ ' cud. l . h ropriution rr . '" _. , - , . ", the motion to concur in t e app I I i" ' Mr. SPEAKRL mind the ("our 'ie,",?,'?, in (min. sf,22, C,ourt of Common PM". 1 ti Prt r, _ MIMCLAKKH (Norfolk) " err!" I it) uty""tPl"'y" ' l ten er cent. "auction l i it?" . by hot), gcntlcmt'n opptiriti! of tin: I i~iiiuiiiiii'.il row. - V Mr. slat/r',.',,'.','.,',',',,',',,,',".',',"' ilsll' Kill" to be reduced l E i. " _ and hi the " worthwhile It tactics tilt-H! "I "UM" t2,Qtetr'l'ld'luyt ' 2 t "gt. '." "so and domed. Their conduct in WWI to o . , I " " . C. r"pd,,"l't)'A',"l'lr"l,1i'.t tried and 3,,,,"Gt'.llll', we! 'i.T.ht unendinent was declared lost on the some I I , ".. trimiiiirUttuitof hoists reiri? school trustees, who' division. . , l f 'ii). hired teaeherrronrthe principle of setting them for Upon the item 315.850. Baperior Court Judges and I .., Rt,, I" the "sullen timeout possible. and without reference Court of Appeal, i , 'l:'?:,',"??:':,.- totheir oompetemo. Mr. MILLER moved that the item be referred 2 i . 'tl, 1 1 l Mr. C%AtutBiWest1intttoat) moved In ".neardynt,tlt, heck to Committee of supply with instructions to 2 ' Jam to the smendment. that whilst concurring in the strikeout the sum "$13,000, being on sllowsnee I t , , S':., , i tap. resolution this House is of opinion that the from the Province of Ontario of $1,000 to tyn/rt ' l 1 , I . duties of the Mice or the Clerk of the Crown in the " " on of the Superior Courts, under authority i (t 2,. T I. Chemo?! might be t'ltt,'h't those of some other of 33 Wc., CBP. 6, Ont. 'ntnmm no mov'd this I , , altk" ttttieee or onion"; and thereb e "vial be etucted. trusting it would be curried, and thst hon. 800mm." . , 1,": [ Mr. FBASBR'ssid it wee not sdvissble to sbolish . opposite would sinus the principle ot economy which . I , 'fl,'," T the ofBco of the Clerk of the Crown in they bad been sdvoceting.I This wee not s question , g , r", Chancery hastily, and particularly at the pricey!" of money, but of principle. The B. N. A. Act ~ ' time,when the eountsy was on the eve of sn election, really took may from Ontario the power a I "which time the duties of that otticitU were very ot appointing judges or P311118 them. The J ' important, endtosoine extent large. Ontsrio Government had no right whatever to ; , of -, 2 l In MEREDITH pointed out that the elect of make this payment. and he believed the legal gentle- ' , " V on in th nd i t to the nendmeut would men on the car of the House felt that there wee lr , ' ! I ' " . . m" "".? . ' " V . bel in t he th H trust dthe , , " _ be to preclude the possibility of making my further much to Ieve t s o e cue. e e ' . reductions Under ttm heed of Legislation, and asked Attoniey-Geuei-iil would allow, the smount to be ' . hon. members on that side ot the House to vote struck out. in was not finding fault with the ' . I g C _ against it. ' llmuunt of the i"p,',5'i',f, reliance, but treated this pure- , ': q - . . t are pnnctp e. Cl r 1 Mr. MUWAT did not son that there wee any in- y n . mu . ' a, "' _ P. t consist-mu in hon members voting for the tyntut1" - Mr. BAXTER moved in smendment to the smend- , 1 kg" , i meat proposed by his lion. friend from Wellington. Ptnh that Elmo fl',',"".",',',)',',', "I'M {mid Truly". I V ' , Fl'.'::, "s',',,,-." 2it,t,t'thtg1ti,'/gu'i"tit,',1'..1'.?t w" put aad t/,'to1eelltii'l2't'oo 31:1"; 12l'd'lll"L'l'c'tUt'r2 ' "i, Fr ', ~ ds. i T, C,', . fo "Thai 'lv,."",',";",", t B te once of the allowance granted under this Act. A ' J' g a: EAtt.-i Gears. mic y a an Fne 't. r, , _ I I _,', _.--; & E., Ie/h"'?,,', Bishop, Buoield, _'ci,iii,FG,i,i, i,r:',i:,r.kirii?jj, ger,iof,egape1luar,"ltd,,"et 1'tttatTJ,ll'"i,'ie " , I,)' y iO J, Llanko /..wt,l.?/y.',.tty (1019' crepe, my}? intention tomove that no further appointments on wr '2. "i . '4 "roam, terns, l-inlsysou, Fraser, Gibson, lira . . . - -. t I '. hem, Grant Murmur! Hardy 1isrgrnit "a, this basis should be made, while the hill: which he , 7 ,7 - t t 'd ., l . t ' , . ' I . . "r" t T l , F Banter, Lane, Lyon (Algomn), Lyon (llulton), Mc- 2',1i,t,'pt 12t',t tbt',',',',,',)',',',:,', , 1t,1,"'d,I"t',f/ Ot'd u- g" J, l "5",. wr Cruney. Mohave, Mat-isle, Muster, Miller, Moss at, puiltso J'/,'d','e"l, t"tl'l", ll " ep i1 v,tt,ti"',g',f. ' / E , _"" F, U'Donogliue, Pardee, Patterson, Paxton, Robinson, l peyote") to tem of tl '.'.,t 'll',tl,',1"l; t t ' tl'du 'l.l,"f. a , ; li, Boss, Sexton, hinclziir, tlnetsittger, Striker, Wok, g0st I'l 'fr','l','vrl/,'o'l (w 'd,"",', :lllil'l- o t warm", :, t -I o} . terworth, Williams, Wilson, Wood-- 47. l merit t at its rem, u Inn vuI i rswu Io low ot 1 , _'. M V such it motion. He did not think the judges were, . li, EH", - Nartr.-.Metmrs. linker, Per, Bell, Bonner, paidtoo much, but thougltt the "Mince had no I g " " 5f Broder, Brown, Nth/In. Code, Coutte, Crehgutou, right to pay any part of their salaries, as that pro- , .. lr, - Deacon, *%srrlrer, Grunge, linkin, Kenn. Lauder, i perly belonged to the Dominion. i ' I i l Long, McDougall, Motiowun, McMahon, Meredith, I _ N MOWAT id it lai th tth . . . f) . ir, . i c, _ Herrick, Moms, Morris, Mostyn, o'tiullivtm, Park- , V rc. '2" d) W" P YP.. I espmto fr ', " g II , . hill, Preston, Richardson, Bouncer, Scott, Springer. , bundheld Nacdonal no longer tested min that side . . a BF,5 loony, White, Widdilield. wine, Wuts-iw. l ',',fdr,",', 123:5"2135 25:35:32.2; "gg',',', st", 'dll",',', b'! i , t le'Cy"ilNlt,22i1l'2'e'iel',R, "id that be had POW"! out ' , ing it 1,l1',,,"tihf'li'2'dd objection to its contiutufrige: M' "r 7y _ before the motion was put that the effect or its pee- '; i The opinion ofthe judges, "mi tbat of Sandtield Muc- " , '33?! I880 I'Ould be to Bhut ttr. Known" which they on douaul were In favour ot the constitutionality of I i I '4 "w t.iyst side ot the Emu" had intended to move "t tho the grant Able lawyers in the Dominion l'uriia- . t i? direction of economy under this head, tsryt he, con- uncut must also have been in favour of this View l r r, I , I: $3":qu lam- ninthmenou the tactics they had: when the Act was preed. They might therefore . i V -', p 4 ' l our, our.) ' well take " as proven that the payment was I i: , I; 2 ' Mr. CREIGHTON moved to sdd-to the motions within the jurisdiction of the House. All I r I o .. 5 clsuse condemnstory ol'the increase in the expend!- ugrerd that the salaries wer. not .too large, i vi Li: tun upon session" writers, messengers, tutd PNreo. l l and it T" not likely this Dominion Goverumeut " t » _' f The motion was lost on the following division:-- 2 I rt,'"lfoi,1curllt'i 'hy, at ',,t,s","s'"d',UJ'",f, taken "in. ;, , 'l I Y-.---. Baker, Barr, Bell, Bonlter, M3ttttb% it e on W" ' o uot benilowed ' l ' i Broder, Brown, Calvin, Code, Coutte, Creighton. . . - ' " C ie, ll I-on, Flesh". grunge, Hirkin, Kean, F IMr. McMAHOh urged the constitutions] obrc- I l i "or Lender. was, McDougall, McGowan, Meredith. _ tion "WW" thi. grant. He, thyupht " was not Ir' [ if"! y.ttrreh, Monk, Morris, Mostyn, O'tiullii, link. ' very consistent in the lender olIthe Opposition to llt ' 'Ig'h Nu, Preston, Richardson, 1kpsereosr, Scott, Snot-2 uphold this payment when he denied the reduction - in: singer, Tooter, White, Wight, Wiiu.-36. l l of other tsalartrm. . 'l I (, _ l Nuts. - Messrs. Appleby, Ballantrne, Baxter, l Mr. SCOTT was sorry the amendment to the , 4 l _ Bethune, Bishop, Bonueld, Chisholm. Clarke (Nor- I amendment had been moved. u " prevented an F ii, kt ;- N, , folio, $litsrke 1Wetliogton), Cole, Crooks, Dorm-he, I I expression of opinion in the direction sug- , " » 'W: _ 1 pan", Finleyson, IYaaer, Gibson, Graham, Grunt, l greeted by the hon. member for London, and upon , , 2 Roman". et'tt, nature", Har, Hunter, Lane, 2 the (government "P"."'" the responsibility of pre- , © Won (Algoms), you (It b, Mccrsiiey, Mohave, venting the introttttcuon of such e motion. He did ' l ' . . a, ' 1 loushon. Mannie, Mute iltor, Mowat, O'Dono- not believe this amount should have to be paid by tit ! shoe, Purdee, Pstterson, "ton, Robinson. Ross, I the Province. but he felt that the credit of the Pro- 'lt l Stanton, Sinai-tr Springer, Striker, Watterworits, I "110° watsplsydttvd Io ttttt "BERNIE 110' on i' a , l machine, William, Wilson, wood-M. bench. The! hm}. Attorney-General "tk' of tua r fit a. _---- _ m.cu1uui-:eeid that he did not think the Gov- yeye, of WWW" 3ytcdoeld not running on the t'd ', "it, eminent should take my special round in the mat- present End" of, ther ('t,teetrc, Ti." Prtmeut At. T I . 1.tks a, u we appoiatrntsnt of m. 1',,ti"l,,t'll oiticer' lay _ _io.rneryenerat did not ollow closely in the steps ot I I}: with the speaker, and the motion or the lion. meui- h" Iye.dttye15, LUI- Bllkt. for that "cutlemIIu lied, ' 'i', , ttT i bur for Norux an, WM . condemnation of tsius. in not, in Lone-orient», cast his vote unmet this t a T . (lieu, hear.) very item. (Opposition cheers.) / a The amendment we. lost on s division one to is. M,'ii/i,Re,"/'dro',f 'lU'a,'rLtd 'lt Amendment. " E l ' i..; . . . so a w en this rat l - I [he oripinul resolution was then concurred in. was msde it was because it was thought the "fun; A ' , ri . Upon the item, $20,545 for the Court of Chancery. of thet Jude" we" too low, Nils Show and $t,ouo; " Ill ' Mr. BEACON moved it reduction of 10 per cent. 'ttte,",,',,',',",',',)],, ttad been raised " $6! "Id tOrin try . _ _ ' ' on tuhttalaeiem over sew; no satiny to be reduced ' tuon Government, " that the Province was _ 'c,', , below that Bmot1nt. not culled upon to continue the payment, EN . ,'" I " I . . . I thought if the $13,000 could he saved it mi htbo ' l ' The, motion was lost on the following division '- spported among the County Judges whom an". I ' "att.-..Metrtrrs. linker, Barr, Bell, Bonner, Bro- 'HP. "I" arduous end their sslsries not st atl PW" ' I hu',','.",',,",', 2/g"t Code, Courts, Crttightoa,Deaooy, Irortiorttualy high. , Flo er Grange lurkiu Kean Lender Long Mc- _. MLROBS . . . 2; 1 Kiran', McGowan. iriiuiir,' ilGiiiii,' o'fiiri,%rii. pteseed b L"t2uggd with the opinions on- . I . _ ' . I . em rwho hndJuIt set down. . no, Mostyii, 1'arkhiil, Paxton, Preston, Ricnnrdson, lie contrasted the course which the 0 iti q I Mo-r,ts'cott, Tooley, White, Wigis, Willa-u, Filmed in regard to the Judges 'lll'/'l'tlli0,'h'ef, ' a .N.arstart,"P,. Appleby, Bellantyne, Buster. they pursued in r.ttrttd to the members of the Civil " u Bishop. Boufitru.Chiattolm, Clarke (Norfolk), Clarke Yrv.iets, am.1. PM ttttst they seemed desirous ot !' "l 2 (Wellington). Cole. Crookl. Currie, lleroche, Per. playing. "WNW" lento! battledore and shuttleo ' F i m. 1'egt',iut'rgel'l".",t Graham, Grant, Her- / cock with the latter, I . . can: , u i. no: t, ey. Hunter) Lune, Lyon . m. SIVCLAIB said tthat tie . ' . . . - In c, (Also-rte), Lyon (Bolton). MoCruney, McLaws. slo- I Judges' sulu'ies had been made l,", 1',t."Jlt1 'hht M = field mellow" ageinet the vial"! of the Reform .er', . ll - .\ .:I I r t for. G

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