The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 30 Jan 1880, p. 4

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"gene Iymcm. He noticed it M iitrunor" thine than " many of tttas hon. , guideline" who had woken in favour of l, um But were Minimum», and naturally ; Opposed to the inter-us of lhc settlers. " ' were was one thing which would show that lumbcrmou would no prenuted from voting upon a measure in which they we" w deeply iuterested, it Would be the _ pres-cut Uttrcutssiou. f Mr. PRAtiteR-wtuo Innhl vmn dn with Mr. yEeWa01Tu--.Lawrers are differ. tttt1yt1tetru. daughter.) He claimed Hut iius Hill, by giving the lumberuwu tilt: right to go into a settlement at it!" um; and strip off the timber, would serwusly hinder the settlement. of the country. alt. PARUEE said the leader of the Op. position as few days ago proposed to re. duce the number of members of this House, and now he went 3 little rurtiter, and Noun-n to exclude lumbotmen alto- gether. ll they Wont that. tar, they might as well go further and exclude gentlemen of other occupations in well. The hon. gentlemen had referred to the nevus ot Mr. McKellar in 1808; but no other mem- ber ot the Opposition of that day agreed with M. MoKellar. The position ot the tutttterltad entirely Chunt'Al since 1868. At that time there were very few culoniza. tion roads, and since Jun $1,900,000 oi public money had been spent In opening up that, country. From the way some hon. gontlemen talked, it might be Inpposed that the Gov. erntno-nt we" introducing some new piiiiclple. . They were doing nothing ol the kind; they were much proposing to o xwud the prmciplo laid down In 1868 by John handheld Macdonald, wuom hon. gentlemen Opposite so alavnshly followed. He read iron: the. Act then passed, which provided that all pine lands. With the tuincrals upon them, would bathe property of tho Crown, "not that this locatee should have the right to cut what pint: he rmpm'cd mt tho purpose of building and taming. (Cheers) A MtbsuquL-nt section u r. h'RAtitut-Wuat would you do with the lawyers? (Lauguurd pwvi'h-d that it the timber was not taken l " t.he baud in live yams, then ml that re" [ "mined. Wuultl belong to the patch- tee. Whht we the intention ot the GoVeruInent and the Lvgst0ture, with pained that Bill? The tltgcuritsirm which took place slmwc'l that they be. lieved titre yours would be quite semi-lent to enable the lumbermen to hike oil' all the timber on the Iand-.sould in luct he just as wall, so hit an the raw-hue Wits concertw0,tw to i'esei'Ve the pine alto- gether to the Crown. 'this Blll reserved all the pine tor the pummel; oi t'eVehue, allowing at the same time to the wttlcr all that be I'll} liletl tor the purpose ot building and lent-mg. 1t nude no change witatcecr in the law excl-pt rescuing the pine irnbtuntely, instead ot tor live years uhly. 'l his "ah not it questi til it: all its hetween the lumhenuw and the nether. l it Wan y question simply betWeeh the Province aad the public, including , the settler us it part at that public, "ltd in dealing with It they might to deal " ith " Irottta Ihovmcial standpoint only. The Ut'tllllu livuig in the continue at Oxtum and Mitluloaex hittljust us much Mitt-fuel III the revenue obtained from that country its the purple themselves who lived thew. _ 'ruvretore it was talking to ttarrow View oi the qutatiou to any that it was one anuply 'ociwc,uuttlut rat-(Her and the tumbtutuau. tle contended that this llldcliulit: lowerm- uon ol' the pine was more in tho intorcstol the smile: than tho rustrvntion mad , under tho old Act, because it Was tiuposoulc in live your: to tuke out the. lumber judiciously and prudently. The intcicnts of tho lumbeimui and the settlers would bemutually Icrvml by the Bill, and " would be to the interest ot both to eon- serve tho lumbar, and thus promote tin: public revenue. Duringlne [Inst New you" the Province lmd received from woods and formats no less than $5,370,009 (Ghouls). but unless they took the course ' proposed try this Bill. he trettturctt to so) F inn: in three years hence our revenue "on. tint source, which was now half a mutton a year, would not amount to $100,000. (Hair, hear.) It might be 11'de why not scll. mon- timbcr limits. Became it was not In the public interest. Unless such a measure as this was passed It would be itupoesitrlo for ._...Mr.'MOWKT ssaid the Bill relating to exemptions from taxman was now in print, and would probably be aulnnittcu to the House on Monday or 'l'ucsday. ""MI'. WOOD announced that he expectéd to be able to bring down the Public Ac., counts tot' 1879 on Tuesday. the Government to put new Fquilii'pi into the list for location, and it would be next to impossible to work the Free Grunt Act at all. 'l he hon. member fur East Urey had suggested that the land should be cleared oil by the Government before opening it for settlement. He would eel; anybody wlimknew anything about itit this could be done. 'Uiider the present timber arrangement it was impossible to get the townships Open tor location. It might be asked why these lands Were not ipit ygys License, but if a man Were ence located the timbex could not be sold over his head. .. . Mr. MERRICK spoke at somelongth, and quowd 1mm speeches made by tumult ul'mu present Government. favouring tin! sale of the timber as well as the land to the settlers. MISCELLANEOUS. jug Mr. HARDY presented the report of the School at Pracuwat Beluuce [oi-1879, the 10putt m the council at Umversuy Uoi- luge tot' 1879, and the statement at Income and cxpctiilivuve ot the Agricultural and Arte Association fur 1879. la reply to Mr. Meredith, Mr. Watt-th-tpu to amend the Act respecting Ditching Water Courses. Mr, FRASER, ingreply, quoted from speeches by John Suuulicm Macdonalo favouring the policy of rutaixuug nu: timber tor rekuc purposes. The motion Was then put and carried on the following division i--. Nara-Messrs, Baker, Ihsgkerrille, Bell, Boulter, Hrodur. Calvin, Uruightuu, French. Graham Mur- km, gully, Lau0or, Mucumawr. M rudntu, M suck, Altman", Muxgun, MI-rvis. Murray, Fur, @111", lucuumuuu, l'oAcy, Wiwe-it4. A Mr. Gibson Jlatuilton)-uo'ill to amend the Liquor Liccuse Act. Mr. t'ycrilusr--0rder for a return of rail- ways recon/mg and from Provincial :uuds sinus 1870, the: route ot each, kc, ' Yuan-Mesa". Awroy, Badgerow, Baxter "1vzurd, Uvmirhl, Cirdwcll, Uuscadeu, Chmlmlm' funk. trunks, Dryden. Ferrlrg, Maid, Prtsser, Free," muu, (511mm (Huron). Marcy, Haw"), may Hunter, Luca. Livingston, '0ou, Mum-nu", Man-w .uilicr,Mowas, Nuru, Neolun, Pumice. Baum" Ircir, Robinson (Cardwell), Robinson (1mm, r-qu cialr, Springer, Striker, Waters, wauurwonhu" Wotidsfhsld, Wood-tl. . Tue House mljuuruul at 10:50. NOTICES oe, MOTION. A): W

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