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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 26 Feb 1880, p. 2

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is wl + e , suil\ ot hunting for the convenience + those and thereupen a molgon had been mado who preferred still bhunting. ; :{t;\':; ]M;;mter:;l whip taking (:Ogniunco j lc letter and proposing that a certain y nuh::".dml:&SKM'V"'LE sup por the f action should be takon by the House, He ' i -- | | thought that the authorities were very 'The amendment was lost on division, | plain aud precise in condemnation of any Yeas, 33 ; nays, ": 1 y | such practice, He held with the Commis-- Yras.--Mossres, Baskerville, Bell, Boulter, Broder, | sioner of Public Works that the position of ff::fl.:o?.l'l);f o&:::-.rlr.:::.r 'r;;l:lki?;mtfifl;:?e'l the Lieutenant--Governor in relstion to this dith, Merrick, Metcalfe, | Miller, Monk, Morgan, House was aualogous to that of the Queen Morris, Murray, Nairn, Near, Richardson, Robert-- to the British Parliament or the Governor. ;';':'lgf'v';:;'{"x'offr_';;" Rives, . FTogley,, White, General to the Parliament of Canada, and Naxrs--Mossrs. Apploby, Awrey, B.d?ro" Ral, read from 'Todd and May to show on naitne Timaise eelanies fooke: fSsmog) his prifkle "opinon "or wice Caldw 7 » V » + prossing her priva opinion or wis 1 man, Gibsou i1 P h flmu:"l'olfl..m P roogg . ;(;nfix" Hoah g:&l::e: to Parliament for the _ purpoge of Livingston, Lyon, McCranay, McKim, McLaughlin, influencing its members was uacon. :::'hhon. (::cnf)-y Nfi:%.:':'u.::":?:il "(":':'ogi s"eck, stitutional, and said that tiris was a Spri:::: Swiker, Waters, Watterworth, Widai. doctrine which was necessary for the Aeld --44. protection of the rights ot Parliameat, and A Mr. FRASER proposed to amond the one which should be agreeable to thosei J clause so that the period during which who claimed to be the descendants of the . dog hunters should not be allowed the old Reformers .ot Upper Cunudg. He con-- | privilege of hunting should be between the cludeod by asking for the ruling of the 15th ot November and the Ist of Uctober. peaker on the point he had raiged, After a briet discussion the House di. Mr. MOWAT said he agreed with his vided on the amendment, which was car. | hon,. friend that the point he had raised riecd ; Yeas, 41 ; Nays, 38, ' | was perfectly clear, but that it was perfect. ----Méessrs. Raker t | ly clear in the opposite divrection to that BQXI':AI:}uder': :3:011-')1:'::;', I')':n!ri:l';o{?;a:'e.:kl?'::xl:l:a', | suggested by the hon. gentleman. The Gibson ('nlulm;.)',"(ira'l(\:f:.u, ll':':'rculur:', u:l'd-" Har-- | | hon +. meimber 'h&d made a _ mistake or Mosedithy Merice. Meteaife: Mittes, Mouehn Mer | Anaoee t OO ontcoiohe the questions: and dig wan, Morris, Muiray, Nairu, Near, Richardson, | point of order was founded on his own Robortson (Hastinge), Rosovear, Roxs, Striker, , mistake. He had assumed in the first | ";':M' Yiutés: Widdbeld, Wigle,; Wood, . Xquug | | place that His Houour had imnado a refer. i yars.-- Mewirs. Appieby, Awrey, Badgerow, | ence to some debate in this House, when y | ftrtaxter, ittthep, HIo',.xm','h.l:l::;:i;ldbrl:?l::'urk:)"%d- l'l:l:f;t) i':::h nr:ttthet, fact'. Ref:re;:ce was well, f :!-..un_ Luw'.u on, M + s #, | e er to cer aiu attacks mad(! F i. Freemaa, Gibson (Hamilto ; s & huil, n.:..;.','.tl .., l}yfm, i'é';':.?.',','";{'.éf;'.: in the _pubhc newspapers, so that the rule McLaughlin, MeMahon, Mack, Noelon, Pardoo, of Parliament to which the hon, gentleman Pattorson, Parton, Peck, Robinson (Kent), Robart-- relerred did not apply in this case, Be-- ':;ln(h"_l;;ol)- Sinolgir, Springor, Waters, Watter-- fore referring to the authorities which the .. The House then wont into Committec, ::'::,'e'e':'i:::n":th":u""r';':h he might op-- 'the Committeo rose and reported the | ground to -- take, d i4 ;:rtal:nl;twl;fi amendment. { inconvenient one, to hold that all the On the motion for the third reading, . _ | cules 'l_'l'hc"bl. to Her Majesty's relations ir |_ Mr, McLAUGHLIN moved an | to Parliament applied to the relations o | ment to provide that dogs accusio the Lleu'tcu;nt--(ioyernor to this Legisla. 'follow rabbits and bares should n ture., _ 'The pimciple upon which the allowed to run at large within the period doctrine was founded was the danger of !montfofiod in the Bill. The mover re. \| W Parliament being overawed by the power | marked that many sheep were killed by \ ot the Crown, which at one time was a dogs which scoured the swamps all night, T¥ 1 serious dange., as the Crown had a very and came home hungry in the morning, C¥ large amount of power, and ic was neces. After a short discussion the amendment Y sury for .larllume.nt to struggle against was withdrawn, and the Bill read the third being wrongly influenced _ by _ tha; a . naseed * power. 'The whole foundation of thpq mssnd p A « | doctrine . was inapplicable here, ag THLRD READINGS. ~ there was no such thing as overawing ; The following Bills wore read the third A\ this Parliament. 'The rule so far as it | time :-- \ was applicable bere at all rested on a mere ' To provide for the erectioun of now build-- [ \J matter otf courtesy or of parliamentary | ings for the accommodation of the Provin-- | / k 1 etiquette. Who would suggest that there | cial Legislature and the public Depart-- L A\ was any dangerol the wish or opinion ot the | ments.--Ur. Fraser, Lieuterant--Governor having any unduej Respecting the collection of taxes in the weight in influencing the vyots of any | districts of Algoma, Muskoka, Parry x meimber ot this House * But the hon. gen. Sound, Nipissing, and Thunder Bay.-- N8 tleman was wrong on :n'uoxher ground ; he | /p The Attorney--General. was wrong when he wished the House to \ f o belicve and the Spoaker to rule that the /'" is %, MUNICIPAL ACT. i : Liculeumnl-GOVcrn:'r had no right to ex. The Bill t> amend the Municipal Act press a wish to this House, The ru e was read the second time. L aunda the pruclice was both diametri-- |__It being six o'clock the Speaker le{t the cally opposite to any sucha view. | chair. On the very first day of the session the THE LIEUTENANT--GOYVERNOYSs Lieutsnant.Governor recommended to the ! T RLIP, House the whole course of legislation for | __On the order being called for the motion the session ; and that was the case in the | to go into Committee of Sapply, and the English Parliameut, aud _the Canadian | proposed amendment of Mr. Widdifield, House of Commons, and in all the Colo. | | -- Mr., MORRIS said he roso to a point nics which had a parliamentary systcm_. | )( of order. He held that it was the i'lgc Licutenant--Governor expressed his duty of the Speaker to declace that the opiniou wiah_ regard to the most important amendment of the member for North matters wlgxch came beforo them from York was out of order. After reading the timne to time, and in matters relat amendment ho sard that ha believed that ing to the revenue they could ""t]' | the amondment aimed against one of the take any action without his N appopit | principles which bad long been struggled mendation, | 'This was an essential heke { for in England, and which was now the of our system, but the distinction hss | | established practice of the Parliament of that lhe_ Ministry must be respousible tor | Great Britain and of all other Patliament. what His Honour comu'nunwuted to the | ary bodics which derived their system Mouse. -- Though the Speech from tlnq; from that Parliament. 'Ihe motion dis-- Throne bad the words and the form of | tinctly affirmed that the House desired to is Honour's specch, it was in effect and comply with the expressed wish of His according to parliamentary usage, and the | 'Honour the Licutenant--Governor : and he doctrine of constitutional Government, | held that neither the Queen nor her repro. the spesch of his advigsers. (So »with 1e-- | | sentative here had any right to come gard to the messages which were brought. | | down to Parliament and express a wish down to the House from time to time cor-- | | or an opinion except in the constitutional taiming His Honout's recommendations, Z manner, through the advisers of tho Crown, or communica:ed !)y one of the Mlmste.rs. : in which that opinion was from time to The only point which (hey'had'to recognize | time submitted to the House, A private was, that tor these communications the | letter from His Honour had been read Ninisiry muss hold, themseives respon-- by a Minister of the Crown, addressed to sibte. lu the preseut _case the Ministry | one of his associates in the Government, . ptook the full responsibility for the com: munication which HMis Honour had made |

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