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3X To enable the trustees of Bethel congrega-- Eiox:l of the town of Orangeville to sell certain ands. Amalgamating the Port Dover and Lake Huron, the Stratford and Huron, and the (ieor-- gian Bay and Wellington Railway Companies as the Grand Trunk, Manitoulin, Georgian Bay, and Lake Erie Railway Company. To extend the time for the completion of the Erie and Huron Ruilwa{. Respecting the Hamilton and Dundas Street Railway Company. A To imcorporate the Chatham and Charing Cross Railway Company. THE GRANT ,TO COLLEGIATE INSTI-- TUTES. Mr. ROSS moved, * That in the opinion of NMP, ANAKY3 IAUVEU3 4 ECCC }.. mX a yoos t in 1 ane to this dazee the special ons ifOd dhorim nation against the great ms{lority of High Schools in favour of those in the large centres, of population, which are least in need of sach special aid, and based as it is on the employ-- ment of four male teachers, and Imvin%sixty male pupils studying Latin, is indefensible, as it unjustly discriminates against females either as teachers or pupils, and gives an undue pro-- minence to a branch of study not practical in its tendencies, and olppone«l to the progressive spirit of modern education." This was, he said, an extremely important subject, and de-- served the cm'ef{xl attention of the House,. What he took exception to especially, was the basis for the grant. The subjects taught «in the present day were so many and varied that practical sub{'ccts required all the attention of pupils attending schools. All High Schools, iwrespective of their position, received $450. There was no discrimination. | The Collegiate Institutes were on a special footing, and the grant to these was conditional, on their having four male teachers and aixty male pupils study -- ing Latin. -- He thought it would be general{v admitted that this basis was objectionable in both respects. If Latin was nscessary for was an advantage, and gave it a larger atten-- dance and larger grants. Another portion of the grant was based upon the number of pupils who passed the intermediate examination. 'Fhe Institutes in the cities had sufficient advantages over those in the country without having any legislative grant. Indeed it was the practice of Collegiate Institutes to attract pupils from of Collegiate Institutes to attract Fupiln trom the High Schools, and the ofticials had gone so far as to sending personal _ letters. Then again the municip:fi graut was also based upon the legislative grant, so that these schools had a double advantage over the smaller #chools. Those high schools that did not or could not force in the 60 male pupils studying Latin, and did not make strenuous efforts to %ecome Col-- legiate Institutes,could not receive the grant of $750. He held that the basis was wrong alto-- gether, and they should remember that other studies besides Latin were requisite. The basis was also a discrimination against girls, and was it right to say that not even oneof those four teachers should be a fenie ? His contention that --the hoeaise -- was wrearg in -- pris--sle was grounded upon the following reasons : --First, it discriminated in favour ot t.he High Schools placed in large cities, which would be superior schools irrespective . of any legislative grant ; again, because it placed the study of Latin and Greek above all other subjects, a course not in accordance with the tendency of the age, and because it discrimi-- nated against girls in favour of boys. The proportion of scholars attending Collegiate In-- stitutes studying Latin and the same in High Schools would show the tendency of the grant. The total attendance at Collegiate Institutes was 3,639, and those studying Latin 2,119, or 58 per cent. of the entire attendance. 'The at-- tendance at High Schools was 8,479, of which 3,-- 292 were studying Latin,oronly 38 per cent. The table, therefore, showed that the tendency of the grant was to force a larger number of pupils into Latin in the Collegiate Institutes than in the High Schools. The average attendance was another ground for the grant. But the average at Kingston Collegiate Institute was 103, and no less than eight High Schools exceeded that. A portion of the grant was also based upon the number passing the intermediate examination still in attendance at the school. In that re-- spect Kingston Institute was exceeded by twenty--three High Schools. Here was an In-- stitute getting $750, and actually doing less work than twenty--three High Schools. He would ask was that right. London Institute in boys then was it not also for girls? If it was not, then the reason for the basis must be that the boys preparing for the professions rec uired to learn Latin. lit might be said that tt\e in-- tention of the Act was to create a few high class schools, but he thought they could have such schools without the speci;{grant. The fact of a school being in a centre of population that res that resnect Was CACPP®® * 22 12 0 l# ® He woum-ny again that he thought the. basis was wrong altogether. In the number .who YMd the intermediate examinations Cobourg nstitute was exceeded by 12, and Galt by no less than 41. It was not creditable that the grant was to be given to those'lchools doing less work. _ One or two of those High Schools were of course now Collegiate Institutes, but in 1879 | Barrie, -- Berlin, Bowmanville, Oshawa, and | eight others, taking them altogether, stood | much higher than many of the Collegiate Insti-- tutes, Taking the High Schools which were pre-- parin pupifs for matriculation, they had the fact tiw St. Mary's was exceeded in that re-- spect by 13 }iigfi Schools. Taking theretore | a.mhe tests, it was found that a large number of the High Schools were really doin%a better work than the Collegiate Iustitutes. Many of them \ had four masters, but being deficient in respect of Latin debarred them from getting the | grant. Goderich High School exceeded Kings-- ton Collegiate Institute in work, and why . should it not get the {rant? The same might | be said of Clinton. Ipon the whole average | the tables showed clearly that the High Schools were doing a much better work than the Collegiate Institutes,. Many of the Col-- legiate Institutes in large cities he admitted were doing a splendid work --much better in-- deed than the 'l','pper Canada College, and if it was considered necessary to have a few schools between the High Schools ard the-- University or U%;:;r Canada Collefie. then a few might have been located according to territory, and that result obtained. He had taken twelve Hixb Schools and twelve Colle;]'iage lustitutes an .oomfmred the cost for each intermediate pu;nl. n Collegiate Institutes the cost was $97, while the cost in the High Nchools was but $49. Taking the average attendance of these schools it was found that the Collegiate Institutes got $10 per head, while the Hign ' Schools received but $750 per head. The l Minister of Education by a clause in his recent Act abolishes all irants to the Collegiate Insti-- tutes in future, but he continues it with re-- spect to Collegiate Schools at present in exist-- ence. This virtually was an admission of the | prmgnple for which he was contending, but the | continuance of the grant to existing institutes would create a tendency, in his opimon, to per-- petuate the wrong, because the Collegiate In-- stitutes would in trying to get the sixty Latin pupils strain every nerve to that end. He thoufht that the country representatives shou d say whether they desired this state of things to any longer continue. ds K0. . 21 ~elogr The Mr. CROOKS admitted that the discrimina-- tion was wrong in principle, but said that he was not responsible for that discrimination. But although this was the case it was hardly possible to deal with it in the manner recom-- mended by the mover of the resolution. The Collegiate Institutes were doing a grade of work that the High Schools could not do, and to take away the grant would have the ef-- fecet of reducing them to the level of High Schools. . It was better to have a slight dis-- crimination than to have that result. 'Fho re-- sult of the work done by both classes of schools could only be obtained by a comparison extend-- ing over a series of years, and such acomparison would show that the work done by the Col-- legiate Institutes was much superior to that done by the High Schools. He was glad the discussion had arisen, as it would tend to clear up t.]l;e question and allow the House to express itself. Mr. McLAUCGHLIN said he had brought un-- der the notice of the House a few days ago the advisability of admitting girls into the Collegiate Institutes, 'The curriculum of the Hi§h School was evidently iantended for boys and not for girls, and he hoped that as the Minister of Education had gone so far towards liberalizing our schools he would also see his way clear to allowing girls to enter the Colle-- giate Institutes, and to have the curriculum of the High Schools so changed as to place the girls upon an equal footing with the boys. Mr. (.}IBSUN'(Hamllton) said he quite agreed with the principle of the resolution. The time had arrived when the granting of $750 in favour of Collegiate Institutes was an undue discrimination. He did not think, however, that the grant should be suddenly withdrawn, as that would have a tendency to destroy vested interests. The work of both High Schools and Collegiate In-- stitutes was to train teachers. This work was done almost altogether by the Collegiate In-- stitutes and the High Schools situated in the lur%est towns and cities. In doing this the Collegiate Institutes were doing a great work, which should receive recognition, and the sudden withdrawal of the grant would interfere with their work. He admitted that the prin-- ciple of the grant was wrong, but care should be taken that more harm was not done by the ct was exceeded by four High Schools. NoR 140 200 Ak hn haake XF 9