The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 2 Mar 1881, p. 3

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o ".g..., w m e * w n 2y 8 fe T Fioh 9 " es t s oA eiene s 2 ; ¥ 0e ) was based upon a principle which they could contended that in granting aid to the roads ¢ | not recognize. There were other rowds, too, mentioned in the resolutions, and to no that the Government were obliged to refuse others, the Government were not deal> to aid. -- With regard to aid to railways ing justly with the people of that sec-- i generally, and the e-'ipe"}"t""e of public tion of the country through which the roads T moneys, the Government yv;shed to be frank he had mentioned would run. The Ron. Com-- and explain clearly the position they proposed missioner of Public Works had mentioned the * to take. -- He did not say that under no ctretin> fact that the Kingston -- and Pembroke stances would public aid be granted to railways road was on a, good financial -- basis. in ti.lc future, as no man or set of men woulsl That -- road-- ran 'through a very rough -- be fit to manage the ntf;_urs of the country if section of country, and through a country > they pledged themselves for the future regard-- | capable of very little agricultural development; less of future surroundings or cireumstances, | and yet with all these disadvantages it had, by What he did say was that as a whole the Pro-- | I careful and economical management, been en-- | ;':nibl.;:ti was\ ll)r'e[ltyl wlc})l su;l)nrhmll wnrtll l::'(:«ll\"fl)y | ' abled to preserve a sound financial basis. But | facilities, which had been large ocured by x at w § f | wiss and l"':l-t"ll )C"v -ru'l enfflaifi -Pt.hat ubli)c he held that was not & resson Wwhy NJ l | Wi8e. iberal Grovernin 5 P should be granted for the completion of. the A f | opinion demanded a halt and rest as to future road. _ If the railways of the West s uandered ; | aid, and that it was the duty and intention of their money that was no reason :lvhy they ' zl"fl:fu;'!:"."':l'l':le!'lli st';Jidgtll\l':t figfihl.)te::t:lha?nltfi,ll;: should receive Government aid to the exclusion t"n'z;' munici -Lliti.e; railway cor 'xivy' and pro-- of pailways that, Wote ent..ltled to it., 'The Seol Adv icipd s, railway cCO npames and J tion -- of country -- which he represented € 3l'lotersnnghtbeguulud;wcordmgly. (Hear, hear.) was the largest in the | Province that Te 1t h Town prink as on ow Goten mi W Iifiuy Cmegsio I+ hnd ho e loe smooe 'They hac o Cns pai a large amount | 0 money _ into ies id 5 unc fonk it baid ts protineist Presury in timber dues and in | any road which t!wy;'ltfhou ght uuuht'tu be aided Te s c duat th gad he h-eld o se c aee shoald i in that connection, and thbcy (ml;' took that au-- ' Fuppt was: be ts c i4 shge 9 c on t wl shoald > thority subject io the ratification of that be refunded them in the shape of a ra.llwai'hiud [ o . Ae ns ooo t o ulA . s¥as to | | grant. The Napanee and Tamworth . Road House. -- The road they proposed to aid was to | would open up a large secti f t l be one which would form a neutral link and | ifo oe ap pq arge section of count¥i, 1. + r uk: people of which were placed at a great disad-- | afford absolutely equal rights to all cxxstmu' vantage for the want of rail icati | roads or roads yet to be constructed. _ Aid li % o. W ot! w 'n bo ,mfl Nes c'o'mmumca nank | was voted some years ago to A road to run I ind se s ced nated. i in part of t t maks l la Ni maut the Province, had voted for every Bill that had from (Gravenhurst to Lake Nipissing, connect-- hitherto been brought before the Hous t ing with the Georgian Bay branch of the Can-- in@ aid to railway }"] t wl t td ekg;a? 4 ada Pacific. This subsidy of $8,000 a mile ing ht o i it io Pss c ITC they ret ' ' l are in t § b a small grant for the _ roads they _re-- would amount to $356,000. It had been rep-- sented, the fers 1d, _ * Ol i resented to the Government that if that ard prosentet CY L Wls ids I, . ho 1 if was transgferred to a road running from Graven-- was a new scheme, there Was ho prmctple vig < L urs 4 Ne sagk.of t volved, and therefore they should receive no | rurst to the Sault, it was probable they aid. People living in a section of country that f ' would get a roud 300 miles long fulfilling the T29 P t e erd 4 & s c uks & was a perfect net--work of railways could get | same couditions of a colonization road and a 3 i : r n S connecting link with the Canada Pacific as the ('xover_nment ?"d' but his constituents, Who ; ' Nipissing road, which was 'hu't lb? miles in ' lived s ie far from any road, could'get | length, for the same amount of aid originally ging qy tbve }:}eltl was most unjust. 'The miliads (4 ue o mare is se & y , y | k a e 7 C.)t]'[:' }il"l'iligph----But no connection with the time, and he held that it was the new roads Mr. PARDEE--We believe that when we that should be aided in preference to the old. % hn antk 1 w f o a The (Governinent should either give no aid at x L},)tt to the Sault we will have connection with a all, or they should give equally and equitably | ~ e sremsam ho i S i t d " "he contd hot avpport the resotationt '» Ontario will get with the North-\\l'estpfor a because he.thm;ght tl,\em' most unjust to the great many years to come. (Hear, hear.) In e esgeo ar t 4 'tl}c l- ra ysnt discussing that question they were not refer-- Mr. MCCRA),' EY said he would support the ring to any particular company, or to the fight res-oh_ttwns.. .l!; held that it was not necessary | at present going on in regard to it, Vecause it for him to justify the grant ?c') the, road run-- . P was not proposed to ail any road unless. it ning through his riding. The aid grauted f formed a neutral link. He believed the mem-- would enable the road to be completed. bers of the House were sufficiently patriotic to Mr. YOUNG said that if the resolutions re-- lay aside any merely local interests and give a opened the question of railway aid it would be cordial support to the resolutions now in the impossible for him to support theimm. Public a hands of the Speaker. (Applause.) opinion was decidedly against the subsidizing ; Mr. .\u:m:f»rm protestel against bringing of new railway schemes. The available sur-- down the resolutions at that late stage of the plus for bonuses for railways was not very TY session. _ This had always been the practice of | large. _ The cash in the treasury was not much (WH the Government ever since they came to power, | over $1,500,000, and the Province could not go ' He denied that there had been any change in | on subsidizing railways without drawing on public opinion, and said that the respounsibil-- trust funds or embarrassing the Province. He | ity of the notices of motion last session rested regarded the resolutions as a closing uo of the § upon the hon. gentlemen opposite. He wished railway policy of the Government, The rail-- to know what inducements had been | ways it was proposed to aid were lines begun held out to the supporters of the Gov-- | on the faith of reeeiving Government aid, and | ernment to cause them to change their | municipal bonuses had been freely voted in the 3 § | opinions. Me believed that the resolutions expectation of receiving . Government aid. y | were a move in the right direction, and hon, Therefore, it was only just that such roads -- | members on his side of the House would do as actually begun or completed. should receive 'i they had done last year. They would give the Government . grants. The proposed grants ¥ | resolutions their support. The Government would only involve an annual expenditure of ; | had said last year that they would give no $17,500. So far as the proposed line to the li further aid, but public opinion had forced | Sault was concerned, he was convinced that it | them to withdraw from that position. With | was a great improvement on the projected ul regard to the Sault line, no provisions were Ontario and Pacific Junetion line from Graven-- being made to co;npcl the company who would hurst to Callend;\r Station, and considered that buil(? that line to connect with the Canada t!w(}overmneut had taken up the right posi-- ' Pacific Railway. He thought some such pro-- | :;U"f'": the ra;lway question.l lR'm""')' ad in | vision should be made. | the future ought to cease, w rile it was onl \Mr. DEROCHE said he was surprised at the justice that the roads commenced in good faiti § action of the Governmentin bringing down the | under the inducement of Government bonuses resolutions now before the House ; and equally | should be aided, so with the stand taken by the leader of the Mr. LONG was Elensed to see the Govern-- Opposition in the matter. _ He had hoped that ment aiding the Wellington and Georgian Bay he would have the sympathy of the O position Road, but he did not think that they should in his opposition to the resolutions, aml) thought also aid the Stratford and Lake Huron, a com-- he was entitled to expect it from the speeches Y"'""g line. _ 'There was not room for the two. of hon. gentlemen opposite on the same subject Te regretted to see that the Government had last session. -- MHowever, the action ot the Op-- changed their policy with regard to the Onta-- position did not in the least excuse the action rio and Pacific road. He did not consider the of the Government in connection with the Sault line would be the great benefit to the | scheme now before _ them _ for _ railway western cities that was anticipated. It was ]nid. He was not satisfied -- with the not 2 fair thing for the country that the Gov-- | resolutions, _ nOr with the arcuments ad-- ernment should aid a line so entirely under the ' duced by the Commissioner of Crown Lands influence of the Grand Trunk. in support of them. Every argument brought Mr. SINCLAIR denied that the Stratford : forward in support of granting aid to the three and Huron Road and the Wellington and Geor-- railways mc!n,ioucd in the resolutions was , gian Bay lxln'e were as near each other as was equally applicable to granting aid to other | asserted. 'The conduct of the leader of the roads, such as the Kingston and Pembroke, s | Opposition in not opposing the measure indi-- and the Navance and Tamworth roads. He cated that the people were with the Govern-- I ce T ce termene t C # ymz mnesmsendene pentin. n im amcep mc on mmmaivatiign tlinh biies

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