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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 6 Feb 1882, p. 2

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' dlbol's ... l Rgey®s : ; W Ip + 4 + e e e P io S ty * ie td + .4 m 7 & ® House. 'Miatever oxpenditure occurred since | paners. $ the buiid' # ofYthe Reformatory was made in | _ \r, LAUDER contended that the Sandfield pursuance --" & vote o' the House, 'The question Macdonald Government as a Government had not t was not w. cthgr the Province or the 'Sl'll.Ul the talien possession of the estate. M late Mr. Mercer should have the estate, but it was Mr, MOW AT said that theact was a praiseworthy A '@;?'- bet ween the Province $nd the Dominion. 'The one, yet he tried to shilt the responsibility on some [ ~fl institution was a vory valuable one, and neces-- other body's shoulders. Why did he not assume the j l sary to a continuance of the prison system which | respousibility for such a good act as the escheat-- P had been insugursted in the Province. In the | inw of the esiate. psx Central Prison men atone wore confined and pun-- | | _ Nir. MOWAT--So Tdo. oo ished, and th« as noeed of a corresponding in-- | Nir. LAUDEI said thas 13 out of the 19 who E;'-" stitution for women, as recommended from time I voted for the escheat expros sed their dissent from ; to time by the Inspector of Prisons in his reports, l applying tho monoy in any particular direction 'g. a Indeed the onvinion had been frequently express ed | until the matter was finally settled. hok that it was of more importance than the Central !-- The motion then passed. ' Prisonn thgelly 40 4808 800 mnotaitso ucher Brovi. | LIQUOR LICENSE ACT. reform of female criminals, because other provi-- | C age, , ho yon hirl been maile for mald eriminals. "while ho _ Mr. GIBSON (Hamilton) moved "Tor a return ; nrovision bhad hitherto been mude for the females. sho wing fox'.v:'u-h license district the number of lc had no donubt'that it was a& provision ( timmes in which, under sections 62 and 63 respec-- which this House. would have sanctioned out of the tiveiy of the Liquor license Act, the powers of | public revenue : but when this cstate came into the County J udges have been exercised in the matter Y hands of the Government it was thought that, in-- of (@) revocation of licenses improperly obtained 4 | stead of placing the proceeds in the Treasury, it and (/») !!m investivation of ncegligence of inspec-- | would be a fitting thin s to apply it to the srection tars. The reason he made the motion \vu,s'hc- | of some institution which would bear Mr, Mercer's | cause under the Act some persons had been guilty . | name. -- Mr. Mercer was in his lifetime a man of a i of neslizence. The provision allowing Judzes to | benevolent and kindly fecling, as testified io by | cance! licenses when certain clauses of the Act | those whohad known bim. Thesums which had been i had heor infringed was not: taken advantage of | spent in anticipation of realization on this estate | sufliciontly. ie thought that the return would f i | had »otbeen taken out of the consolidated fund, l show H)'t'_ provision was availed of r-;(~ld§nn or ! but had been obtained by a personal arrangement i never. The object of the sucqnd portion of | with one of the Banks, in the expectation that the | the retura -- was _ to -- ascertain . how far | amouut would have been returned long before the provision ',l{'«"»xrhn"{ for the removal of in-- now, which woiufld have been the case if the Do spectors for glaring negligence was enforced. He minion Governiment had not set up a claim to the was not aware of any such case, as members of a property. If the House would examine into the community '!:'X,"" care to assume the responsi-- | f | history of the case it would be found that the late bility of enforcing these clauses. $ t | Mr. Morcer died while the Government of Mr. Mr. HARY was m'-l;x'n-(l to think that there | | Sandfield lacdonald _ was in power, ' and wer'e no such cases, and if so it might be well to | | the estate was taken -- possession of, not aliow '!hn.- molica to staud lu:;ulln&,'H:g;l:x:'n:;. | by him (Mr. Mowat), mor by his predecessor, | r. MERISOLT U was surprised, after therecent | Mr. Biake, but by Mv. Sandiield Macdonald, who | stiatement of the Attorney--Genera -- regarding the | was Premier at the time, ana whose Government successful working of the Crooks Act, to hear the was supported by hon. gentiemen opposite, stitements of the imember for iamilton, who j (Cheers.A It was by that Government that a com-- sought to throw a blame upon the county judges, | * mission was issued to ascertain what the estaic which should properly rest on the Government, | consisted 0%. and the nroperty was in the posses-- whose duty it was to enforce these pro-- ! sion of the Sandile!d Government at the time they visions and dismiss noe#rligent inspectors. He | went out of office. (Cheers.) knew of one chse avhere, although complaint | Mr. LA UDEit --There was no report made by I had been made of the conduct of a License In-- that G rnment on the sabject spector, the Govérnment refused to interfere. It | \Mir. MOW AT--No, they--collected the facts, but was said that the member for West Middlesex j they id not report them to the House, but we re-- stood between the Inspector and the Government. | ported as soon as we had any facts to communi-- He had himself seen tne papers connected with i cate. (Cheers.) Continuing, he saia that suits °> A the complaint. --| were 'essarily brought fur w realization of the Mr. HARDY thought that if his hop. friend had nroperty on the ground that escheated ]:ll'.l;)l"'ljv' geen the papers his nemory was badfor he would 4 belonged to the Province, and the Courts all recog § ;:i "1 ¢ .-'l ::":'l;'lm' the Provinc The question l:,:l\"(' recollected I'hllt .far_ from the Government p was raised in Lower Canada, however, and one geciining }_' interfere it did interfere and ordered ' judge decided that escheated property should go to un investigation, _\\'hwl.' took nlace before the the Dominion, but his decision was appealed from, I once \I'!:.li'!';.lnjn): Strathroy, who was appointed and the highest court in that Province gave a Cominissioner for that purpose. The Govern-- a unanimous decision in favonr of the To :fl"i"turmli:"n]'.,:tsI'"""" the circumstances of the Ince. During the time Mr. Justice Fournier avse appenved to warraunt. :'-:l\ Minister 0o Justice for the Dominion | 7-\1'7- .'"'.Iilui)"" admitted that he knew of the he (Mr-- Mowat) bad some correspondence with | appointment of a Commissioner, but he was not him on the subject, and the Minister not unnatur-- | empo we {""i to take evidence on oath, and the illy took a view in favour of the Dominion. On | enquiry for that reason was insufileient. Mrc. Blake succoeding him as Minister of Justice, I \"'.' HA ':!'\ isked why the hon. gentleman had | an arranzement was made with the Ontario Gov | not stated that before when he knew of it, instead i erniment to . rogognize the decision of the highest | "'"i:""'i"'--'}"u the Government or the Department ' | court in Lower Canada,.and unless and until some | ';"--l reiesing to take any action. The fact was | proper decision was arrived at Ontario should be | that a commission was issued, but it simply did Wt | treated as entitiea to the properiy as escheated | not suit the hon. gentieman. * | for want of heirs. After that the Ontaric Govern-- Tae motion was allowed to sta --4. B | mot '. rissed :a.-\-"\.' munded vunmlm'lrhlun: THE CONDUCTOF COUNTYJUDGES. | entitled to the escheated property, and making ) x I provision for tue'realization of it. Tnat Act was Mr. MEREDITH moved for " copies of all cor-- 3 | allowed to remain law by the Governor General, respondence with the authorities of the Dominion P | and was seted upon afterwards. At the time the | with reference to the power of removinz County 3 ! Ggvernment asked the House to sanction the ap-- Court Judzes ; a statement of all commissions of £ 7 propriation of a portion of the estate to build the l(»n.:ni!-_\ with reference to the conduct of any t Mercer Reformatory they had not the slight: | County Court Jindge issucd since the passing of est ground -- for supposing _ that any other i the Act for abolishing the Court of Impeachment; k view would ever be taken of the question than | and copies of all correspondence between any that which had tbeen adopted by the Courts, member or oflicer of the Executive Government p In reference to the clhmurve that the son had been ' of the Province and any judge whose conduct has ejected from the proverty, he pointed out that the formed the subject of such enquiry with reference lot at the corner of isay and Wellington streets to the enquiry or nis resignation of his office." He | A was a vaeluable properiy, and not such as should made the motion. he explained, owing to some j f ; be occupied by a small cottave. and the Govern-- | Observations which recently fell from the l \ ment thought that in the interests of the country !(,',.m;:l'«:mm-r of Crown _ Lands, who _ had they wore justitied in realizing upon it, and an | charged the Dominion Government with in-- n action was brougnt ror that purpose. BDut the son | terfering _ with Provinci&l -- courts out of . was in possession still, and what was more, after their hostility to the Ontario Government. y these proceedings had been taken, and after he ' A recont decision had, however, vindicated the j PA had freely admiited on oath the weakness of his course of the Dominion Government. 'The case of | E) un claim through his ilegisimate birth, he began to the county Judge of Huron was a case now so | E:1 set up a claim as a legitimate son of the late Mr. public that hbe felt at liberty to refer to it. A | iCB Mercer. Then a will and a marriage certificute scandalous state of atlfrirs existed in that county, | $ d were forged, as they wore declared by the Courts | and it was rumoured that the Attorney--General f . f to be forgories, and the elaim was thrown out, | had received the resignation of Judge Squiers. If l The docision of the Courts that escheated | that was so, and the Government had not availed property belonged to the Province was by | itself of the opportunity to put an end to the exist-- f cS some influence taken exception to by the | ing state of aifairs. then they wore much to blame. *5 Domirion Government, and an appeal was | _ The motion was allowed to stand at the request M taken to F1« S«premse (Wurt in the name of young | of the Attorney Ceneral. Mercer, bu re «My at ths instance of the Dominion 1 f: $ ':'w-"':mn i ith the ,l""r.u!'. already known, that | THE BUDGET. h so the Chiet e and the se ' judge cided i | mriny : + s | favour of th _ Prov n!.»lu, \\'!:'i'i'()'x I.Ih«:,flmi:ll"l' 3'!';11:{1": | _\ Mr. '\"'fn"".l P enguired when it was the in-- < faveured tag Dominion. Under thouse circum-- | 'l'llthm'nl the Government io submit their tinan-- : stances it was manitost that the Government had | c": ig ty 3\ af the i! Hik8. ' * dealt most liberaliy with young _ Mercer. | Mr. MOWAT said the 'Treasurer would make I When the question 'came before the Mouse, 'l"S statement on Thursday,. 1 on sot cthe . 'procesds "of the catates naer ! : PARLILAM®XNT BUIDINGS. f rpruFh marert ts in C aile Mr. BELL called the attentic f the Govern-- than in the way proposed by the Government. fln poak Altention of the_ t Wheneverthe costs were taxabie they had been tax-- ment to the fact that the returns asked for re-- ed.and whenever they were not he had been guided spocting the new Parliamont Baildings had not by the usual and necessary allowance for similar i'."' l';""\'\"' f;'"'l"""' "h' enquired when the work. 'Fhere wore a greut nV MnE irhibx + apers would be brougi«t down, realized ; thore "5;1 ."":'- ,::,l.':l,l,l["l':,'";::::.f,i '::"',(: ':,'"'.'0 .-\'.l'- '3"15 tLsE1It said the papers were in course of of which a very large portion wonld be equitably preparation, and for aught he knew,. they were tharged aszainst y ; quita bly ready to be submitted to the House. 'They cer charged against the estate, even if they did ultim-- tainly we in hn cle f y ately tose the estaie, because they were incurred ;"'"__\ \ftlu'!ml being kent back for any purpose, aad in attempting to realize the estate. He was quite :'ltlc was 'n-nhm,: in conneciion with the matter J satisfied that the public, understanding the freis. mat would not bear the light of day. i'wm(ll«l tind lulnhlfll-'lhl} in perceiving that the very RETURNS. \| t est course had bee e ip en i ® 1 ( stances. -- The ';,,._._1.::":?.':,("' "'l::l;'[l"'."l'\"W;lllli:'qll"l"ll '1\_lr':il_lA\l!h'\ ]n-x-~~(:n:«-vd a return of bonds and | * | everything they had done. With reaurd to the Rt: urities registered in the Provincial liegistrar's f motion he had not the slightest objcction to it. oilice since the last return. I 4 > 2l & a tm + mmard s «46 Mr. LAUDER denied that the estate was taken the House adjourned at 4:45. | | possession of ")',f*'-'m-"i"hl Mucdonald when At-- mt h +| !'.""""Y .'.cllupll. "h"«"n'u]" mon of enquiry was 4 | !"hLL'll in December, 1871. and going out of office in the same month thi.t was theonly step taken Mr, MOWAT--That was all he could do s Mr. LAUDER --That was all he could do, I t he € | hd." not tawen possession. , but ho [ Mr. MOW A'T --He had taken possession of the 6: B t d ~»smnetins e:'é *

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