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ks T ( i IPF" ' Ap s F e ® w C " e NO T 0o " uy e f 4 A;"!'_ ie sB o9 e -- s ¢ "'q'. 5 l: E" 4 \ * 18 .5:2 L ' | fle : s no ? §4] + ~ NB -- " & roQ C d E"--* -- J 3 i 4| 1 N p. - -- 4 ® : x $ ¥ |f | 8 p. ; A the class of meat spscilieod «t the prices at attending the College had ihe various professions I | § !:r' , . | which they took their contracts. 'The Govern-- in view, and while he did not say that the ladies $ ; | | We : ment proposed_ te furnish the unfortunate h should be excluded from any of the professions "i E a | 1 | -- e 4 ; lunaties, deaf, dumb, and blind, with the same | --(hear, hear)--still it was unlikely that many lady | & | | > d f quality of meat which they would use at their own | students would be found anxious to compete with N | | C+ * & table. Jt is the hon. speaker's duty to see | men in the professions. HMe would be sorry to see ; ? | o » 4 beyond the possibility of a doubt that these unfor-- | the Law society besiezed by ladies seeking ' § ) |] fer A tunates are furnished with proper food. and the admission to liis profession, _ nor @id he k l 17 | E) al * Government, of which he was a member, would think that likely, He thought, however, that 4 11 [ s not take the responsibility of having the mutter the medical profession was one (loud laughter) in | AJ| | is left in doubt, no matter what the cost may be. which ladies might be more successful, and one | [ hi o Naturally the Government wore anxious to keep | to whichthey were better adapted than any cther. ? f | | the expenses down, but the maintenanes accouut ; But apart from that question there was, in his 18 z','w ; | of DubY:r-. inatitutiona had rapidly increased, and | oninion,. considerable reason why ladies should be 1| ) @ | probably would, and it was the desire of the Gov-- i @&llowed to take this higher course of education,. || E k | ernment not to increase the expenses unneces-- | No one could deny that it was of the utmost im-- i | nc sarily. He found by reforring to the public ac j portance that so large a percentage of our popula-- ( [3 . | counts from 1874 to 1831 the average contract price , tion, which had in many instances more time than * ' of prime beef supplied to the institutions in | the other sex, should have the privilege to devote | | | London, Hamilton, snd 'Toronto was ®4 53 per | that spare time to the acquirement of this higher 1 hundred pounds. Prime beet could not be fur , edncation,. _ Sooner or later they must have a col-- U | nished at this price. For a beeve of 1,2J0 pounds , lege specially forthe superior education of women. B | livo weight the average price was 14 cenis per | But in the meautime -- he _ was noet sure T l | pound, or 854. The cost oi slaughtering, Cle., | that the course pursued by the college ~ k | would make the total cost $56, From this $10 for | authorities was one which prudence would dic-- | | hide and tallow brings the cast to $46, A beevo | tate, He was one who thougzht thrt no practical P [3 lu{ 1,200 live weight, dressed 730 pounds of beet, difficulty would arise from the attndance of | 4 which brought the cost of the meat to six cents ladies at the lectures.. By the correspondence | : | per pound, without making any allowance ow which he had seen, the colloge authorities evinced | | | ie ¥gh. ' profits on capital or any other necessary expense. a decided anxiety to aiford facilities for the higher | n 1 wi} A These figures prove that for some time past meal education of women, and looked forward to the | | N 4 £ has been supplied to the public insiitutions at time when a proper building, with a lady princi-- | 7 h 43 nearly two cenis per pound lees than it musi gul. in the neighbourhood of the University, would ' PW 1 t M have cost the contractor. | This explaincd the in-- e established for the purpose of imparting an i" 1. crease in the cost of suppoly, and the Governinent education similar to that taught in the University. ; s 4° R did not see their way clear to reduce the expendi-- Hoe was not finding fault with the decision of the -- y j s ture by returning to the old system. In every ease College Council, but he was of opinion that the | T11 |--_ the Government had employed only men of expe-- matter demanded further consideration than it had | E] ?,'. rience and sound judument and their services had yet received. Year by yoar the number of temale 1 & proved most satisiactory. # undergraduates would increase, and candidates of | j Jt | _ The motion for the return was carried. that sex would establish more completely their | p §i * CO EDUCATION ability to compete with the male sex in obtaining | t ¢ 8 W roundbiainti C s honour standings and scholarships in the diffarent a $ Mr. GIBSON (H{amilion» moved {or a return years. The matter woultl some day force itself ' ; a ' showing what applisations have been made by upon the attention of the Government, and it was, y females for admission to any of the lectures of A thepefore, excecdingly desirable, if the Govern-- ) li 3 ' University Coilege for the session of 1381--4, and mant concluded that the college authorities had f | . the results of such applications, together with 1'-~:l(9!y'll a true conclusion in the matter, that then a | 1 k. copies of all correspondence in connection there they fshould have in view the establishing of a | 3 ut with. He had learned, he said, since placing the separate college for the purpose of remedying the | I | aul i h notice on the paper, that this was a more lmiport existing st:n{"(\i adtairs. M inzcrs). l : \ ant matter than ho had at first supposed. The Mr. McLAUGHLIN said they should first ask | C : full and ample privileze of taking ;ul.vr.um'i:-!m what was the purpose of education. It was in c 5 secondary education had led to the difticully of order that citizeas of the State might be better E" the adimission of ladies to . University 4 al-- citiiens and better littod to discharge their duties s | lege. When the secondary education was wauts , in life, in order lhx'u the obligations to the State o 4 I in it was not likely to further the application of should be fullilled it was ,nucessur{o(;o have 1 P ladios to the colleges. But thoe secondary system [}'|:~ co--education of hot.x_mm(l and y. The 1 i had been taken odvantage of hy the young ladics identical co--education of the sexes was, he LPL} T whom they hid seeon passing the examination at thought, undesirable first because they found a } § $ the University with marked success. The number tilf}j'x'ul)t-o of mind between the two sexes. He | f f of those ladies who had passed the entrance eX-- lw'w}io'fl there was a sox in mind,. The first acts | 4 amingtion to the University of Toronto was of voliiion on the part of a little girl--nursing a | ' n all 51. of which _ Brantford | furnished doll, ete.--pointed to maternity and home, while a A .o HWamilton 7. S Catharines, 8t, Mary's, hoy will roll his hoop and drive his wooden horse. ' t a Howmanvilic. and O:hawsa 3 each; Lon-- ls' that was true, he claimed that the education { ' don. Woodstocs,. Wellund. and Port Hopg 2 of the two sexes shouid not be the same. ' [ . t cach, and a number of other places one each. On that ground he was opposed to co--education. U 1 Phoso were now undergraduates of that instith-- Girls and young ladies were unable to grapple ¢ k F h } | tion. O these 4 had passed the Hirst examination with mathematics ;xn'! meaphysies as well as L. { y only. five had passed the first year examination, !1"'}'-'4._ At a recent entrance examination out of B | : ' H | N i while three only had passed the second year exa~ twelvre boys seven passo l in n'm!homaticg. and out & | | | B 1 14 minatton. -- _Those youngy ladies represented the o" twenty--seven girls only five passed in mathe-- & | B -- E Hiwh Schools of the Province generally, and if the matics. in :»'!n-r words, 581 per cent. of the boys | t \ cla--s list was examined it would be found that on passed to 13} per cont. of the girls. 'These were t 1(3 \ the whole the standing of ladies was better than facts which made them ask was it wiss that there , A t B PC I their imal« sunetitors, (One young lady from _' should be identical co--education Of boys "'Id fi"'lfl- iA 1 ; t. Catharines had been the recipient of two and of course if they admitted girls to College O 4 f [1} L lR s cholarshi ps, mother _ rrom Hamilton took l:!..-_v would be subjected to the same course of B 11 M P ) | 74 the scholurshin in madern langnages, and still stwdy as the bovs, Another reason for the position * O 11 h another, he thousht, from EKlora, haddonelikewise, | ! he took was that the aim in life of woman was { { f i This su@biect was a matter, he thought, which | | dii¥ferent from that 6f man. At Colleges ym'm.gi [ & | | id \ % must sooner or later receive serious consideration. | men were fitted for politics, medicine, law, civi $ }j $ -- 1 So tar as the faculty of the University was con-- | engineering, etco., and the subjects in the Univer-- @ s cerned every pos«ible advantagze had been afford-- | | sities wore sclocted with a view to these callings,. 4 §2 V 12 I ed to ladres. _ Undera provision for a special | | He could not agree with the hon. member for e i D U | #@ course for ladies, made in 1¢73 by the senate of the | Hamilton (Mr. Gibsont that women should step 1 M i t | A i University of 'Toronto. 22 candidates residing out-- | out from the sphere for which God intended them. & \W t ; t ' | side of Toronto wore examined , in 1879, 4; in f He objccted to co--education of the sexes, because § ;:'?\.g,. 69| f y ! 1330, 37 + and in 1881, 51 were examined, _ A higher | women were physically unequal to men, In order t j ' . L ; special course for ladies was also prescribed by I that he might establish this ract he'read from the 3 [f 4 t i the senate. in the first year's course of which, | report of the Provincial ecretary for 1330, where ks | M DTfi however, very few had availed themselves, | it was stated that 832 males died of consumption < + f | | though there was an indication that ladiea would ! in the Provimnee during that year, while 1,183 o 0 B 1R 6 * | avail themseives of | this course to a larger extent | fomalos died from the same cause during the A ; | } t | inthe fnturs, In1939 one young lady in that course | | same time, | In other words, it was found that the * ui P | 1| was exomined,. and in 1831 tour, 'These flgures, he [ | mortality of females over males was 53} per cent. / | -' i ' thouscht. demonstrated that nothing hbut a full j ! Consumption was a discase engendered and 108+ 5/9 j 10 1 | participation in the courses of the University | ' tered by exhaustive sinudy to the neglect of [l!l)'él- | § 1 , [A | would satisiv the ladies. What were the difficul-- } cal exercise, It was the experience of all . | 1 6 | t | d | ties in the way ¢ 'FThe sonate of the L'uivnr.-nty! i who had paid attention to .tlu-. matter, _t!lnt 3 m d * l. | had removed certain restriections which applhied to | | whore _ women | were_ put into compétition ii d J i# | male candidates in the way of winning scholar» with men they exhibited an excessive amount of a . < l i ships unc medals, and in doing this the ladies ambition to excel. 16 was therefore apparent & "LEL EP t cantended that, impliedly, the college authorities that if giris were \x.»'nwl to enter upon the same y A 1 | 8 taid down the principle that ladies should not be course as theo boys in reogard to educational mat-- 2 8 114 s permitted to attend the lectures in any Sltage of toers, they wore being asked to l'm'd(-.'luke an un-- 3 4) their conrso,. This position, he thought, had been i equal task. Everyone who had n.:u! any callege 4 i l ' | taken advisodly. 'The position presented to the j exporienee would know that the ability to win y i o | ladies was this :--There was a point in the course | medals and honours was not the resnit of superios : P3 -- | which auyone, cither male or female would , find intellisence, but of supevior physical endurance, / < | it difficult to pass unless they had the benetit and this being the casoe, it wonld be wrong for the | & i #)| 3 of the lectures. Some of those lagies who had Governmeunt to ask young ladies to submit them-- 6 & P passed | credijtable examinations . in the _ tivrst selvos to the same equrse and the same examina« \ $ 1 | § 1)_ and second years bad beeu applying for admiz tions to obtain the hixsher education to which they m ® 810 P ||-- | ston to the lectures at the College, towcther with were justly entitled. Jn 1872 a Bill was intvoduced h s the male stwdlenis in the undergraduates' course, iuto the English House of Commons to limit the | 5 i $ i IIsa knew that both the College uuthorities and hours of labour for giris, on the ground that they | | F | P j | those secking admission to the lectures had mani» i were n»ot physically capable of la bouring l'qr the ! E4 n 4 § f | fested a desire to reach that which was on the [ same number of hours as hoys, .ln t..hu' United | w( 3 i whole mast boneflcial, At the same time the Col-- ; State=--the lanml par cxecetenee of ladies' rights, | il J lege antboritios had econclu led that it would bhe ! the land where ladies wore clamouring to enter 3 Y ;.-:nh-: the gzood l"'..-inh!u- of the institution | the politi val and it \.U'.!l"'.' :'II'HH:!H""H'_'\' fournd the 8 3 ' shouid | anything like co.education | be at-- | hicher education of women pushed to a greater 4 W tempted, 'Iwo questions sugcested themselves. | extent than in any other conntry, But \vhu'. had | f g P First the legal, and sgcondly, the expediency ques> been the rosuit,. The dirst thing striking & visitor } 1 | a tion. The Indios had not assumed that they had | to that country was that their women were not i B the legal risht, or that the authorities could not | possessed of tbat benuty, symetry, and develop-- | C T/ i 8 ' prevent them. nor on the other hand had the au-- | ment that, continental women possessed. -- The ' if j 4 4 thovities taken the position that they had the deterioration might im some cases be attributable a * 8| -- t x ' nower to exclude them. It might be argued sac-- | to hygienic causes, but much of it was doubtless F | 4| § w cossfully that there was nothing in the Act to | due to theiv system of education. In Km{!ulul the 4 4 } 4 § X," ! empower the College n'nh(gl'nir'a to prohlbgc higher editcation of ladies was amply provided for, s a B | P xd the ludies from attending the lectures, and it | but not by throwing open University Colleges, -- | } | would be well for the Government to consider it which had been in existence for the male sex. 11. £ s the rights of the ladies were not in the direction A large unumber of colleges, specially for women, s E 6 t he had indicated. On the ground of OXJ!O("O"CY had been in existence for a number of years, and | § | f | < one of the reasons given was that if ladies were their number was on the increase. In these in-- A | } f admitted at ail, in a short time the numbers tak-- stituiions they did not impose a coucse as severe 4B " l | ing advantage of the privilexo would uppm'xi;mtte us that placed apon matrieulants at Oxford or | P0 y to the number of male students now at the College, Cambridge, but their studies were allotted in F i 4 N He did not think this would be so. Many now subjects of a more elementary character, and 4 t ; +. d 4 ;!5( g | 'v' *) 1 > ' 4 it ' j + 4s C c c c ns 2 1c ie i ioh nteintomie