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+% P ; J 6: Cl ---- ~~ xt ":>"+ Te £ /+ o . > t 0 -- | with parties who could not be reached in this Hamnilton and the preference stock, bonded deht, | e way. -- He moved the second reading. i . ete., of railways. Yet it was within the l.x-..lu-.; | | | Mr. MEREDITH was afraid the hon. Minister discretion of 'the Provincial Secretary to deside | ) | f had promised the agriculturists too much,. As a whether Mr. Smith's wise saws on these matters | : statistical bureau he thought the bureau would be should have circulation in the report pri [»:{:'m!rf('-,'.- | h of great use, but he thought the statistics would the Legislature, Tt showed how hard--driven | | j not be of as great use to the farmer in striking hon, gentlemen opposite were after five years to & the proper price of products as was thnn,,l':t, be-- make a point against the Provincial Secretary é cause their prices were regulated by the prices in when they were compolled to resort to such 2e E Europe. (Hear, hear.) The law of supply and * charges. (Cheers.) He read the reports mad. \ C k demand would regulate that. He thought this by Mr, Smith in former years to show that thers ' was a matter which the Dominion Government was no analogy between them and the one which -- should attend to instead . of #he Provinces. In | had been cut down, There was no colouringy in 1877 the Minister of Agriculture had obtained | them as in the one under discussion,. Tho re-- ) sanction for such a burean, but h.'- had done port from the same agent had not been published f #6 nothing under that authority. Whilse the Gov-- in full by the Minister of Agrieniture at Ottawa, \ M erpment was asking the Mouse to pass this and he did not suppose there was any criminal J ; measure the Provincial Secretary had mutilated intent in such not being done, |In the reports of 8 an immigration agent's report, which would have the other immigration agonts there were no irre-- io ; been most useful for the purposes of the Bill and levant statements, He held that he had a perfect hi in promoting immigration, and that for a party right to say how much of a report he would print, ; ' purpose, This immigration agent (Mr. Smith, Hon, gentlemen opposite could see the rights of of Hamilton) had sout in similar reports in former the I'rovince tranpled upon without raising a pro-- 3 years, which had been allowed to go to the coun-- test, but the coustitution was in danger if John try. Moe charged the Provincial Necretary with Smith's opinions were not priuted in full. (Laugh-- ; sunpressing information, and declared when that ter.) Whatever he did, he did in good faith. P ha -- een done there was no guarantee that the (Cheers.) \1% . imormation to hbe obtained by this bureaun would Mr. CREIGHTON spoke at lengsth of the ~§ks ' not be tei ted in a similar manner. _ He thought different reports made by Mr. Smith, holding | that the Bill would not prove to be as beneficial that there were other things mentioned in his | utd as was anticipated. reports not relating to immigration, which were | is Mr. YOUNG thought the Bill was well caleun-- | not struck out. | < lated to carry out the intended object. He agreed | Mr. SINCL ATR regretted the personal charac-- | ' : with the leader of the Opposition when he said ter of the debate, -- Me thought so serious a charge | 3 that the prices of produce were ron:'u\ute(b by as that made by the hon,. leader of the Opposition : 3 C ! the prices in Europe, He also agreed with him should not have been made upon so slight grounds. | ; | when he said that the law of supply and demand Me congratulated the hon. Treasurcr upon the | ous. ' operated in that direction, Regarding the state-- Rill which he had introduced. He did not think } s (+ ment that the Dominion (Government should the farmers had any complaint to make about ! 3 carry out this bureau that, however desitrable, prices, but he thought the information would be t i | was impracticable, -- It needed the eo--operation of | of use in enabling them to sell at the proper | "A U p the different Provinces. _ He was not certain that | time. ' the machinery of the Bill would be adequate to | Mr, WATERS thought the bureau would sup-- { collect reliable statistics, but a start had to be | ply what 'had / been folt fovr some | time ' } made, and then the muchinery could be improv-- | to be ~necessary, He saw no difficulty in < ed. Me suggested that statistics regarding rail-- | collecting _ the _ desired _ information, _ and \ l ways should also be collected, | he had no. doubt that reliable information : Mr. BRODER thought it better to have re-- | could be obtained from the different bodies whose j i § ceived statistical information than to have unre-- services were to be utilized, He endorsed the '9 3 ' liable information. He admitted that the Pro-- Bill, and believed it was a step in the right direc-- a t A vince should be in a position to give data regard-- tion. Whatever benefitted the farmer, whom he | 3 4 ing its produce, etc., yet he thought the sources believed the bureau would benefit, benefitted the | ; 3+ -- of information prov ided were not adequate to | country at 1""E'~'- ' ' j h. furnish satisfactory information, He hoped, how-- | Mr, LAIDLAW regretted the personal tone p h | ever, that }ht' Bill would work all the good anticl-- which the discnssion had assumed. He believed I l)'ME(! for it, He believed it was tnne.th:\_t this the Bill was worthy of support. 1t would supply " Province was abreast of other countries in the a want long felt by the agriculturists of the Pro-- § ; matter of collecting statistical information. vince, _ The machinery to be employed would, he S ;}t' bellixg six n'clm.-ki the S;;«uku' left the chair. believed, collect correct information. f o 4 'he House resumed at 7:30. Mr. H " thouxht the Bill was a goo > I A Mr. DRYDEN did not think there would be ind Sonld enably suneir ce / theanterase in the <is 9 any difficultfy in collecting reliable statistics. He farmer in enabling him to ;»;-t better pri('.'; for | 3 | suggested that blank forms might be issued to several minor products. The farmer being put | men who went about the country t.lny-shmg. He | in possession of information regarding countries ! 4 thought this """l'_l be done very easily, and that | other than his own, would be greatly benefitted. | Byig.: a t t}w men engaged in that work would he very wil-- The information gathered would be of considerable i "'.;, N $ lmg to furnish figures as to the quantities of l use also to immigrants. _ In his opinion there was VR fi'* : grain grown. By this means he thought that no difficulty in obtaining the statistics. He was § S"f\';%:.: * _ almost accurate returns could ln-'r'nhu('to'«L An-- clad that the bureatt was intended togivestatisties 8 other way in which the bureau might be made of of manufactures, because the true interests of any t great benefit to the f"';"""' .""'"H he by collect-- country lay in its industrial supremacy, -- He sug-- ' uk ing mforluat.n;»u as to the different insects \\}u.n-h gosted that full information regarding railways 3 were destroying various products, He heartily should also be obtained. HMe supported the Bill. f ' T RanRDT . raply 18 the thomber for The Bill was then road a second time. \ & & 4 8 ) 0 6 ® ( rps s + f wb o ay . 2 London. _ He was prepared, he said, notwith-- lll"l.t'l.]lull\n in Committee reported a number 4 standing the bluster of the hon. gentleman, to | of Bills, T oyaF 5ons tGH% I _ y meet him in reference to the observations he had DIVINION COURTS, KK addressed to the House before recess in allusion Mr. HARDY, in moving the second reading of j to himself cither on the floor of that House or on the Bill relating to Division Courts in the dis-- j the public platforms of the country. The hon. l tricts of Nipissing, Muskoka, Parry Sound, and | gentleman had taken occasion to refer personally | Thunder Bay, explained that there was a doubt to himself, and he was reminded of the hou, gen-- | | whether the Act of 1880 applied to these dis-- | w ; tleman's visit to Brantford, whither he went on | | tricts, and the Bill was for the purpose of remov-- ; +A purpose to annihilate the Provincial Secretary, | ing this doubt. I n on which occasion the leader of the Opposition, | The Bill was read a second time. | f the leader of a party--or of a fragment of an The House adjourned at 11 o'clock, j f 4 Opposition which might aspire to be a party | a c aAC i | : lw;m met by and :;tlth'wuml an audience of sixty-- | NOTICES OF MOTION. I our persons. (Laughter.) With reference to i 3 John .'\'lnith and hi»nrqmrt he would onBy say The Attorney--General--On Monday next-- ~@ that, after making a slanderous statement alleg-- Bill to make provision in regard to certain legal f ing the mutilation and even falsification of that matters, l id ate c us mt aiiaa y | 4 report, and finding that statement to be * Reeri--Apamank en caan ies ez ipsegates | without _ foundation when _ the _ document in manuscript was _ passed _ across ~ the j floor of the House, a gentleman would have been expected to admit himself in the wrong and made 4 a called for retraction,. But. hon, gentlemen oppo-- site had not even followed the example of their 5 organ in that respect and taken back the infam-- % ' M ous and base slander. (Cheers.) Regarding the j 4 6 report of Mr. Smith himself, the hon, gentloeman sketched the absurd way in which Mr. Smith in T s his report rambled to the North--West, Muskoka, ' and other points of the compass, dealing with -- 'dividends on certain railway stocks--dealing in 3 fact in half of his report with everything and q anything but matters bearing on immigration a pertinent to such a report. Mr. Smith had ex-- d pressed his opinions about the increased purchas-- ¥ ing power nl}thn- people and the retarn of public couhdence owing to good erops =--would any one { contend that the Provincial Secretary was bound * to disseminate the opinions of John Smith on o these general trade and other subjects in his re-- | C {ml't on Ontario immigration matters in Hamilton * Mr, Smith had inserted in his report much é that was doubtless interesting and harmless about 4 * projected cotton factories, the lmilding trade of | # I ( * E xt ¥. es 4 .w