The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 25 Feb 1884, p. 2

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WATERS moved for a return showing | establ.sh at Guelph, He thought they should | * thg[:mYXx;';;r vaid to each railway out of the | @ % adopt a system of giving bonuses to private par-- funds of the Province up to Dec. 31, '83; also the | _ ties who erect crenmeries complying. with cer-- number and total amount of unpaid certificates f tain conditions, 'These private parties should * that each of these raiilways was entitled to ; and ' | « give inat.ru(.:tionn in these creau:eneaasa conse-- also the raiways which were entitled to aid quence of the,(szovernment grant. _ _ _ of the Province, | l M r.'SN'ID?.R. was in favour of giving bonuses ';3'3"; l:;'lficgfnflwl::n:cynfl:gtsaa yet.! been., paid ; f i totapll'! vt. l ns acrafnines h: tI' :'le:,:;e'fli'.":i::.on o such return to show the total amount they were estavlishing a creamery at the * i 5 j cer-- ' Atr. MEREDITH said it was by no means eets "TL O St U 3 ANont payment or by bor-- 1 _ certain that the proposition of the hon. the h}m- I Mr WHITE x'noved for & return sofiall:--cor-- x Ister of Agriculture wou'!d bring about the object § u;ldemce Jease, aud _papers connected with ~I they had in view. He thought they should cefer ; :f pl ing of irt of Rouupeeau Point to Messrs. 4 the matter till the committee had completed We l&'"'"& led, * their investigations, -- Me claimed that the propo-- Si4on. .u'r'le ut [ sition to establish creameriecs was made for the SECOND READING. ( . | purpose of influeoncing the elections. _ The Gov-- !-- t "Mr. Caldwell--Bill to amend the Municipal 4 | ernment were not so active in tlhe interests of the , * Act. 1| ; farmers this year as thoy were last year. | rxt ) | d | _ Mr, FRASER had no doubt that every mem-- t ENQUIRIES. OB ; ber of the Government felt bad after the speech | Mr. GRAY asked when the papers with re-- § ' oi the hon. member for London, because cream ference to the saie of meat would be brought J | 6 f eries had not been established during the past down. ' & season. _ What were the facts? One would j Mr. HARDY reported that the papers had i) W have thought that some great principle had been | been brought down a week ago. (Laughter.) U set up by the Goverament which involved imme-- The House adjourned till three o'clock to--mor-- f _ I diate action without any question or further in-- row. formation, and without getting further experi-- NOTICES OF MOTION. 4 | | ence or light. None of the mefnbers of the Gove The Attorney-General --On Wednesday next-- 1 ! ernment were butter--makers, 'They simply acted Bill to consolidate and amend the Acts respect-- --| P | on the information they had received. Near the ing life policies for the benefit of wives and |B)-- close of last session the gentleman referred to by -- ch!i;l dren 3 ! . the hon. member for East Grey called upon the Mr. Waters--On Wednesday next--Bill to ; Government and agitated strongly with reference a.men.d ch;n 11, 43 Vic., being an Act respecting B |P to the manufacture of butter. That gentleman Coronets' In(m:asts * -- J had interested the Provincial :l'rea%urer, then Mr. Ross (Huron.)---On Wednesday next--Bill 414 hollin s office as Minister of Agricuiture. _ The Lo an:hurize the substitution of terminable annui-- 4 ineinbers of -- the (Government then -- had ! ties for railway aid certificates. 4) 4) reason to believe that three _ creameries | Ir. Pardec--On Wednesday next--Bill to couid _ be established in the Province. a,n;en.d the Railway Act of Ontario, s Subsequently they thought perhaps it would not Mr. McLaughlin--On Wednesday next--Order | % be nec«ssary to expend public monega to establish ot 't,hc; House for a return showing in each and ~B) d theso three creameries, 'They had received in-- very year since 1871 (inclusive) the amount ot formation that private enterprise bad advanced * onz Y aid by the teachers of Ontario into the # creameries in the States. It then became a ques-- g)u ryul;)uuated Teachers' Fund. (2) The amount Bd | tion whether it would be desirable, under the m':leout by the Government to superannuated C1 cireumstances, not to establish three creameries, Eeachers ~(3) The amount in each year paid out | R Experienced men were rather adverse to the | in excess of the amount pa d into said fund. (4) 4 f establishiment of croameries. He was perfectly ; ' The total amount paid in. (5) The total l satisfied with the action of the Government. | | amount paid out of said fund ; and (6) the amount *n u Mr, MORRIS asked the Government not to of the latter over the former. ~al "f establish the creamery at Guelph, C ' Mr. Carnegie--On Wednesday next--Address F ; (| Mr. DRURY stated that at last session he had | for a statement of the receipts and expenditures d '; doubted whether the policy of erecting these | of the Province between the 1st January and s ' creamerie« was the best. HMe showed that on the | 15th February, 1884. 4. face of the Act the Government had piaced the | Mr. Merrick--On Wednesday next--Enquiry e | power of dangling the creameries betore consti-- of Ministry, if Jonas Cornell is or has been since tuencies,. HMe read from the Act to show that the year 1882 in the employment, temporary or [ the Presidents of the Dairymen's Assocrations otherwise, of the Province, and if so, in what | | east and west and the President of the Agrmcul-- capacity and for what remuneration. tural and Arts Association were constituted a Mr. "Monk--On Wednesday next--Order of | consulting board for the selection of the sites of | the House for a return--(1) Copies of ail con-- ¥ the creameries and their management. . The tracts for the erection of additions to the Lunatic Government had done right in secking the advice Asylum at Hamilton, or for any part of the work of the Board, which was non--political, and he | connected therewith ; (2) a statement showing commuded the Government for the course they ; what changes have been made in the plans and had taken. |__ y | specifications for said additions and the effect of f Mr, YOUNG saud the subject had lost none of : them upon said contracts ; (3) a statement of the § | . its importance t) the Government, and they were | amount paid on account of such additions ; (4) | . "al 'f"'"' alive to the need for wise action. While / copies of all reports of the architect in charge +BA| the hou. gentlemen onposite were very anxious to | with reference to such charges, | improve the quality otf butter, they were more Mr. Broder --On Wednesday next--Order of A auxious to improve the present occasion for the House for a return of copies of all Orders in R political capital, He generaily gommended the Council, Departmental regulations, or instructions | UGovernment for proceeding with discretion in the with regard to the use of text--books in the Nor-- 4 matter. The Opposition, he thought, would have | mal and High Schools. ' been wise if they had agreed upon their song ; |~ Ateo----On Wednesday next--Enquiry of Minis-- | for one section complained that the Government try--1. Whether any instructions have been given ¢ | had gone too slow, while the leader of the Opposi-- to the Department of Education as to the use of | . tion asked them to go slowly even now. The any of the text--books known as the Royal Read-- 2t Governinent had sent a Committee to visit the ers in the Normal or Model Schools, and, if so, P > Western States and they had found that the when such instructions were given, 2. Whether P & )C creameries were almost all conducted on the any report or recommendation was asked for or j factory system of obtaming cream from the received from the principals of such schools, or farmers, and they came to the conclusion that either of them, with reference to the sslection of s# the trade might in the near future be almost the Royal Readers, and, it so, from or by which [\ revolutionized, and the farmers would cease to of them. 3. Whether it had previously been the l | make butter at home. He believed that the practice of the Department of Education to give J ' Committee reported that it would be better to instructions as to the text--books to be used in the | & P have one factory, and that it be established at Normal or Model Schools, $ o Guelph,. _ He proceeded to point out the many Mr. Metcaife--On Wednesday next--Order of f advantages accruing from the estavlishment at the House fora return showing (1) the names } + Guelph, and contended that all the objects of and residences of the members now composing 3 the scheme would be moet best at that place. the Central Committee of Examiners ; (2) the E I Mr, WATERS supported the measure cordial-- dates of their sevéral appointments ; (3) copies of t $ ly that three creameries should be established. all Orders--in--Council or departmental regulations P HMo believed that befors this time these cream= defining the powers and dutres of the commuttee ; l , | eries would have been established, When the (4) copies of the minutes of the proceedings of the | m matter came up last session it was the first time | committee except_those relating to exarminations ? 4 when it had been di--cussed on the floor of the | since first day of January, 1882 ; (5) copies of all . House. If the work could be undertaken by recomimendations made by the committee to the -- private enterprise the bases of operations were en-- Minister of Education or the Government upon f tirely changed, and the Government were justi-- any matter upon which they have made recom-- fied in taking no action towards the eatablish-- mendations, 3 ment of these creameries, He believed the \ _ Mr. Roo--On Wednesday next--Order of the + people of the Province had changed their opinion House for a return of all correspondence be-- since last session, and the public would only be tween the Executive of the Lambton Pro-- i doing the proper thing to establish one creamery hibitory Association and the Provincial Secretary, j at Guelph. _(Hear, hear.) x any other memoer of the Government, with I Mr. CREIGHTON said the Government bad regard to the appointment of a license officer for |:« t all the information last session regarding cream j Petrolia ; also, copies of ali communications and eries that they had at present. He spoke for | correspondence between the Government or uny || *k some time in an endeavour to prove his argament | member thereof, and any other persons, with re-- t } a & that the Government had taken the question of I ference to such appointment. | private enterprise into consideration last session. | _ Also copies of all correspondence between the f The necessity for his motion had been done AwWAYy --License Commissionets for West Lambton and -- f % with after hearing the statement of the Provin-- any other person or body with regard to such ap-- | se § "\ a px :

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