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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 26 Feb 1884, p. 2

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r - 7M -. 'reRm "r BIN , T . . "L" . A. ' "_11maMiRQ Bt 1 . MFL: . "r, _' .' 'r?" I. C"" T _r'. .'. f' "L _'-' A'. ir?', i . .> r'. u . _ __."'d ?t'.'T, . h f .. v," 31.4" aa "IBIS? st, . .x, - . T ' t a , _ -ls "T I' lil a; ', rr . ._ .- jr"j3r,'iitil3$.irt:,'ir' _ _ - - _- t , r T . _ ", q - _ " 3 '$"-Qy; _ V V g! . "time hid a toitemsv to increase the sxpenditule _ " hear.) Tie held that this income should be con- . t l " of the Province, and-should be asked to bear the siderod as an ordinary receipt. Overlooking this ' l i . ft??? of those toh"f'1tl'r"t', in "'ng to repatr fact, and assuming a false doctigiie thtoe,'tut'l5, , I ' / f tgttt done. n 187 a comnu so was ap- the amount of revenue the erive rom t is _ . , ',r' P"e,urt1 'tT/ttl';,, mto the It?" of the liquor woods and forests, the hon. 'f/'f2ff,, opposite , . .. traffie in the Province, and a series of questtoru had been' led into all his mistakes. If he (Mr. We": sent out to various partie-led-al men. Creistlttou)iuui assumed control himself,would he . I i P, r', Judges, tuttgutratestr, coronerr, and others-in order give the Province the detiest which he had from . l.' . _ . that they might give information as to the harm _ _ year to year? His hon. friend in a sort of i . T done.Iu the first place he. would speak of the harm clairvoyaiit mood had made a table by which he 4 iv I,""' in round to its effect on mental condition. ' discovered that the Ontario Government were . " I'he questions were sent to the superintendents not now receiving as much interest as they did in .lt,:s . of asylums. and he would take the lowest esti- 1871. This was a startling table according to it" mate of the harm done by the liquor traffie. Dr. hie hon. friend. They found that I the sum of , ' sq,,,., ylli.tt, leg',",',?,:',",',',",',,':,',', :3: i,1h,ettdtr'eit'. 'too/det/ll, interest "3W3???" Since" the . C u. " " ' , ' a . . 'roe - v . - I ' Li, l onnity in this Province was produced directly or vince ,lil'J,ellll'"'1Ui',, Ile, "t'itut11stt,'i,d,re"i '5. , indirectly by the effects of intoxicating liquors. 876 000 iiri'riFil, the finances of this Province r, Th.is. was the lowest estimate, some of them Doing wer'e ii, a disastrous condition. This was the . T l . 'tt2it.u/inie, lped cent. h"",?,,"' the gist you; way in which the hon. gentlemen opposite looked , , . . 'l'r'r1dli'ivl',"',1,',lthi,1,'"'llg L/lluiTa'l'l"llJi'pg tlhtguetit,; It luvinever beenthepoheyof . " , , , _ . cent. ot this would be $37,995. They were called l 2lh1,Taf"ti1men,tnee/e"1ishyt" I',':,',,,,),?,'. i ' upon to spend a very large amount I could instead of hoardirut up this) Insure ', I r, of money for the maintenance of prisons, reform- surpliia. The Government contended that even. 4 , E?': ' 1tt'ii"at'J2 1','ath':1"trd', ';'2'e,in,ioteeitli'i . dollar of money the Government could possihly T l». as; tstipendiary "minutes. and justices of the' at: 331'." si'i.i',',tdgrtt'ainpaugre1,'ot',,t L'hvg',1or,',i,e i t 3." [M1503 a: to what tg'it,','e,',e of too crimes tried . pose of ' g , pur l , " . i "d' un er t. eir iarirt iction could be traced to in. , . . ' _ , E' V,"-," ' 'd",)')',',',,';:'.,',.) There Were hundreds of answers "mm. AND IWAaL0PiNt1 ', q "3.. I to that and as summarised by the committee the trehool tsystem or the public institutions. ia. Tr 35 were stated to be more than throsHourths. htoad of hoarding it up for the purpose of receiv- l ' xii. i Superintendents of hospitals were questioned as Init interest upon it. The people oi this country 1 - 1' i to the number of patients brought into their in- were convinced that this was the proper policy. [ bc," V stitutions from the effects of the liquor traffic. Tius Government were doing a great deal to ad- , L', ' The answer to this was the tgamte and that three- I vanes education in this Province. Not an hon. i v L rr' fourths oi the inmates came through drink. Com. l gentleman opposite would make a proposition » , E.. ing to the Mercer 1teiormatory he thought all against such a policy, because they knew that i i » k, would acknowledge tha', tliroe-lourtlis Were there tho peorrhs of the country would not tolerate it. i , r l h' because of drink. Ho had come to the conclusion The hon, gentleman opposite had told them that ' _ i ll ay that taking all round thev must collie to the V l PM expenditure for civilgovernment costso much . . i , ' _" conclusion Phat. three-fourths of the expenditure I In 1374, card that it cost so much more in 1883. i ' of the Province upon refornratorios, hospitaU,tuul _ or it had increased somewhere between 80 and f, f: prisons, were directly or indirectly traceable to Ill.) per cent. Ala had trut, stated that the, expen- l i .. drink, but in order that ho might In prefoctly (lituie for lemslation had increased something l ' _. .1 free from exaggeration he Would take it at two. ' lily, 70 per cent. He (Mr. McLaughlin) had _ ; I £4 I - thirds and he would give the figures of the out-go ; adopttd tb plan of argument fur 1871, i _','-: 2;. ' as affected by the liquor trahic. I tth It'dti, Jf, 11:0" that John "tt . ' My . ' . e 1 ac ona s 'overnuieu, -- t was at rr , Ei.)' (.ngi': 13:21:: hgpgg'ggun' 60 g Cdl'? . more extravagant than this tij.1,k.riu).'i'l.lt. In l I " "mm."mwry iiiriiv'i.'.' 433021 iii'.Gi 1871, there was expended in public buildings by t c, ilmpiiuls............'.... 8l.o00 irr.irf the Sendheld Macdonald Government $96,076. " Fi, cut1uiu'vsvrac'y ot.l iistice 270.444 183.496 In 1883 there'was ennui?" $129,839,Gor m other i; The total of the amounts which represented the :33: iltiia 15332313,... Tiered 'tive"',',')',,',':',',',,', r '3" amount of expenditure direetlv traceable to the Government did in Giii? (Hear hear ) In 1871 . l ' effects of drink. This justified his statement there was spent on pu blic (iiiiii'iiiii' ik, as com- '. ", w that tho liquor traiiis. should provide a portion of pared with 841 oe in 1883 or the iiriLarGa in _ _ Tr i the exuenrtiture oi the Province. lt wan' unlail 1871 was "reattir than the expenditure in 1883 by ' 's ' I , to compare the expenditure oi the Province in 2-37 per cam The hon. gentleman opposite had INTI, wnl-n the Province was in its childhood, crimpared 1871 with 1883 showing an increase . with tliu't'nf L453, when .it was in its manhood. without giving the iiiii'si or the country one P: It s,',1o"e',..,ju1.ll: its 1"rt to compare the amount word of explanation. 'He intended to make this . l " 'irt,r.""s Int-ill /i'.f,."'"t'hd" h,,""',.,, I11011;" "",1'tt explanation. In that year the tlandfield Mae. f r o .ti' r!' 7 ':. s 'r- . , . Ito'. , , ' dling clothes with that now. He contend d I lo,,",,",,),', S't"'pj,"ett,'e, "do" tiéphdmg "fr 13%;: ti ' I that the ()liimsitiun could not claim to ic,)gi/dbhtdi"t1t'l'r,')'lf this 'v15Q,' l'll |fleuhad (i: T 'i be the heirs of John Sandiiclil Macdnnald or of m, doubt but every dollar had been mo. rv his policy. atrl if he had done anything praise- I perly expended. He intended to refer" to worthy tuey could nut claim the benefit of it. _ ll tew tigares and give more fully Bome . Thu metubcr tor North Grey had admitted that, of the reasons G the increase in the various de. w.itit one single exception, the insets of the Pro. psrtrnents in the Government. In 1883 the ex- , Vince are genuine and stable. iteyrs.. and 'whicli pendituro for civil trovernmsnt was 8202.898, and 1 & " could b0 pul. tuto "it"! ' but In dealing with the in 1871, 8111,413, an increase of $91,485. This 3 _ _ Common School Fund he had shown himself to was in itselfa proof that the volume of l ' l ti, 3" the all" side Gd "W1?" it"i't',' .tit.em- . sUsisiiss HAD V.V.4TLY INCREASED. ' " vex to the adv-mates o t io omiulon. - .. . - . . ' lint his hon: friend had coruolained that the In 1871 there was but one Inspector .ot Prisons .- 'lhensurer had asserted that in'these matters of l and now there Was an Iiispectiir of Irisous. and V dispute between Ontario and the Dominion, the tut Inspector of Asylultns. h M whole license , t, same dispute remained between the Province l system rind the costs t? t 6 management came ,' of Uiiebec and the Dominion. and also thit the , under civil government expenditure "et, 1841. g Treiisurci' had made the assertion that (tutslree There was no inspector l', Registry {Uthces m "s ' would join with Ontario in asserting and obtain. if" l, neither "i',',", there an ,lnf',t,'t'it,.t',' " 1'yht,','g l . ' _ ' ' in: their just demand with regard to that matter. "Quit? no" an 'll",?,',",. ot .nsuréinge. _ ese r ' i His hon. friend had stated Ontario was joining ofhclaja l showe an" inertia") o ll,',",),',') in g IEt hands with Quebec, and the tune was changed. 9ch apartment." 'ill?,. there was ..te11'rl'rtl,',', , ~ ' ll.) explained that the tiOtrence between the m the salaries ot tlte ' "H'SWN. and t tt " "Fe: ' l I ' 15201" of Quebec and the Blens of this House was ot tho employees of the It',":')',')',',??' to w "c. I If ' simply this; the "lens of Quebec were loyal to the Pert':,','.':',',','..':",',',:'),"::',", C,'p"i, bl opposi- _ if , ' their" Province first and then to the Do. tion. "mm was a BO , "'. item 0 ' , I". cond- . '1 . minion; the Blane of this House were iicction With the Proviueia1 Board of 1it,12it', , J, l . , loyal first to Sir J olin 11,at)',t,.'"lt,',11l, afterwards f/,",,al.at'S,'nt't"'o') tttfo, to It,"' n/d,'.',',',') "il', _ i1 - to the Province of Ontario. is hon. friend . . , y"' . " i . I trom North Urey had compiled a large number of i the increased T"i'ei,itu",',,. y thev Dentist J I ', . tables to show' that this Province wits running 1 inn Government "at: r, on" [to big" Lee. 5 ' behind tisvuuually. He m... m... all one ', P:.::"t;"i::':.r::::.-:::'3:'.'..::::::'::m... st: .? , r _ ticits year by year and wiped out the Burp us. t4 fk t tl W) le informed r , ' In order that his lion. frind might compile his for the purpose 0 eep " p, I p H ' i l r' L] l o ado it a false uniustitisble, " to the tstetrq taken by tlta.G.or.ernPenr ' a. " t l ' 'tl'h',t2ll,nh,1,e1ttt1' in '/','li'JY1',' the me i gave them: Ctipltacgmltlof tctga,.tiithttjoeg'ciif,' ll , , l emits of the Province. The only ground upon hereof; l s",','),".."')",',,',',",:,'?, ("an Drininicn 13 3.4 . l . _ ' which he could in any possible way bring about ' A 1.2 I",',!,", '0'. a!" 'il; a], k0 9 P" Nova. ' , i I i these deficits was by assuming that the amount fPti.rcr, 15 Il.'; , I Ir, t 2l"i' 'fel' ati." , (Hear ' l I c, , oi money received from Crown Lands wasplaced bootla. 8 l- , am l uric. . '." ex endi- l ,' - 'P. . to capital account. lie (Mr. McLaughlin) _ hear.) Perhaps the. tr',rvtthi'lg,eT', dad 'e'l't'ltua". . . Fr thought the finantyss of this Province should be l pre was in ,,'h"'t'l,ef,'tl','J, "11th is a; the Sand" 1 discussed in the same simple. Conscientious way i Ile,'. In lbi 1 t 'f, expeni t ure un 8171 423 and ' that the members would discuss their own tin, I held ?.,ityeteei,,,riogt:,'ine",t,t, was t i , fa 'sii? . I shoes. They could assume a case. llislioii. "l 1883 it was 8i'A8,00i5, or tut lee."..'.',",,',',.,',' ti L r C triend had said that the money ob. 572. In 1871 there were only four institlu ion:l mined from the forests of this country tho Toronto Asyluni._ the London lg, um,t " .. ' T should be considered as belonginiz to capital. Deataiid Dumb institute, and the Re.orma cry ' , A farmer sowed his grain and cut it, and from i --ttntt now the following institutions get: Infill!- . j I that grain he received a larire amount of income. tamed ..-uThe Blind Ina-\thtme " "ati' ,""it',d a: rr l l The same with tho forest. Here was something cer tteformatory for. ',',',.l'rd,fl,r " 0 mid ', , g . . cut from the soil. which wan income. This was grill" ASHER. "1381323351 Kurdish? 831001 [l - ' . . . ation an . " ' ' cit?" according to t '3 on. SUMMER! oppo which, had not been established, in . ', ' " iir MEREDITH-wherts will you get your 1871. All these institutions increased the , second crop? expenditure of the P,roviyeep,, The cost of ' y, MLMCLAUGHLIN explained that they would ' l maintenance at the Asvluin in Tyoutoper, lien YC, LN m get their almond crop in the minerals. (Hear, 1 was 813Ioeranttum. In the asvluins in Utici, . " l l . "a I; ' :3. _-.,---'----...-..-.-.-.,, ' . __. - _

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