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:f: % ~l P \@ e C o ® s u;- s o oo B Presy 4 EM 'q. -'\, o C 'I t 5 B To ape sig on e l " es e SS ty » old 7 ~~ s " Hele eA ~A t se k n + 0. 9 o_ s d * td . > luke , o. An en Mess Secean o8 c o0 & Ne 6 cafer l f * *\ ies 4 4** Es '\% e e n n . / s C s ® .i Rorok 4 3 t dine. 4* J «. piip's s ks s Eon : ¢ * a e n : s fekgh s e S c uts o ha | | the debt. The answer to this was that the favour of it as well as Professor Dupus, The 4 | Crown lands and timber of the Province belonged question hadl been made a political question, 4 s f as much to posterity as to this generation. He 'The organ of the hom. gentleman opposite had 3 . procgeeded to deal with the question of the claim | i Py said that it would be in the interests of the ',",'.b' Ri k of Quebec on the Dominion «Government on a¢-- | nc financially to have more than one series. The f count of the «mount retained out of the subsidy Opposition would have been on different sides of | on account of the increased debt from 1867 to this question if the Guvernmopc h:ul' been on dif-- f 1873, and which he statea the Treasurer of thns ferent sides. (HMHear, hear.) They had proposed JE Provinee said he would join. Me ht:\ted'thnt i buucm'nb resolution in order to have a catch f even if allowed, every Province in the Dominion vote. They had set a littie trap for those inein-- except Prince Edward [«]land would be entitled bers who were unaware, but they had been en-- to make a similar claim ; and he asserted that as ligiftened a ht.t;e.. (Mear, hear.) There was one * Ontario paid from two thirds to three fourths of feature about this question, and that was that it w the taxes of the Dominion it weuld be to the dis-- was entirey new in this couatry, Such a case +A advantage of Outario to join in any such de-- had not happened within the memory ef any of ; mand. Ho» next proceeded to discuss the amend-- the hon. gentiemen in the Huuse.. The Govern-- i ment proposed by the member for West Peter-- ment had had no experience of this kind, They boro' with regant to the authorization of had to contend against the tactics of two % two sets of -- Readers, and _ endcavoured or three rival publishers who were trying 13 to show that the Minister of Education had been to foree their books upon the community. + ' guiliy of incon--istency in saying in the debate on It had been saiid that the power of selection had Wednesday night that he was responsible for his been taken from the Pubsic School inspectors. . predezsessor's conduet and had assumed it, while Home of the inspectors had had something to do 4 | he had said in another place that he had entered , with these hooks, : the Ministry ou the condition that there should . _ Mr. CARNEGIE--(Hear, hear. t k a r + ( f I be only one set of Rendors, _ MHe proceeded to re-- Mr. HARDY said the hon. gentleman had [ peat the charge agauinst the Minister of Education said * hear, hear'" and pointed to the Minister I with regard to the Gage & Co. of Education, 'The Minister of Education had -- The SPEAKER here sart that the charge, had , aftor being flaily denied, should not be repeated. NXOTHING TO DO WITH THESE BOOKS. $ After that cousiderabie discussion arose upon e en t i. M tite noint. fle w "? t"mb-ewi" .E'I"ublu, Sm;()\"l Inspictor;g t'ho . ' M:. MERXEDITIH, resuming, mado a restate-- ume of the author:zation oi t 1ese books. ( car, | 4 i ment of the charge, and »ndeavoured to show hear.) It was well known that some school in-- | -- M that the relition |of the: Minister of Education spectors had publhely entered upon a canvass for | 14 1 M 4* * A n series or another 4 f assisting ' with Mr. Gage was that of a person ;pushing """l""'"&? Or ':'"""';"f'_ '?""l'_'{ h'""!.dl'."" "' "s""'n.ul'l"' !. their publication. Mo conclauded by contend-- in the editing of these books, wl anyore wis! | 18 lt it ul Th eimsegnoron of "pubahore hay: d o tendi neman ie ronty | ing spent money on the books must b»s borae by yM*BHs 1CY 4* CR gnt to say Chat 4 the Government.: any book should not come into his district ? It ; A [-- Mr. HARDY reviewsd the position of the would have been placing imore power with in-- | l s e ruforotes hA c spectors than was in the rands of the Minister of J 1 . member tor London with reference to the charge x + bus x s . " suninst .. the. Ministdr ooufs: EKdugation But Edu--ation, as the Minister of Education was M P . Anarnn P h pifoe o Camag --! dihk controlied _ by _ his _ colleagues. _ He _ did the leader-- of -- the Opposition _ did . not 1104 "Ja a} c harge -- apamgt -- the -- achool § swy that anything wronug had taken placs; r ay M S P Ts } } + h ie 5 inspectors, . because as a body of men { he . did --snot cany «<ftht .« slne )o We --Ch® LBN their superiors might not be found in this countr 1 l improper, It was shown that the Minister of 4* 8 Jermonsup. . / -- | Education had meroly stowd in the same position as educa:ionists. (Hear, hear.) Ie had not one | f " & Gr B t I * d 3 t a ' "ht. e"| Inges.tB nt.'ll.onr\' MWard Deech rl i tile reproach to make against them. Some of these * | r tn ages th:i -- f wPo »eChaur : he ; c t I :)"'ner Xc'-J' bers in thelinite \"-\bes:u N+oh lcc'ur:a Inspectors had had business transactions with the C o o . NT 2 n i nc RpCiageop *v a is i{fer:nt publishers, and they would very likely I bur and -- there 3 s t alicr a re: dlh'ul\ J $ '8, © y 1 §\ y | bure as, an l' Luere wWias 'n'). the bll.'.nlwlgw ison be inclined to pre-)udzo the question. Tuey were 1 | for saying thit he was in any senls)d eu',..llze'lvl;\ not responsible directly to the Government, and AAl t pushing gooks of the concern. euling with * = + en n ve | :..;.- ."("'Im'\m,. quesiion Gbithe \l'il'li:ter of | the Government had thought it unwise to place I q: + t-l o es Cl ('u\'flrlln"l.' Assum-- | the disposal of these books in their hands. Jt : | $«auCa .l)n'd entry into .u.' x .l.. 10, . £ASSUI had been left in the hands of the Boards of | ing that there was a condition, which there was ' Trustses and the teachers conjointly Certain . ; 8 all ; come into e Uce" e Av | f j ltllut, U "':X.m o h~e ':1';]."?{,.1 '.',:,l |;:x-l(l,:, \Lh':feth:.ie |\ objections had been ra:sed by the hon. member 4 GVe en L M > C U C o f | a & i ' 10 xoX eCHAECR o Peroncds P o pwas \ trom HMastings as to the changing to one series, 3 | should be ons series of Readers--was that a very | The Minister of Education had been charved | bad condition, or did it plaee him in a very ' o Ple noouk aehayh . Phuomilintint DOREINE &5 u".',,m. who had author-- with not giving all the facts. _As to the m:m_ufr % lumiliating pos it* l o Tue Gav y in which Mr. Ross would deal with the pubish-- ized two series of Readers ? ne Government 'ers perhaps it was not desirable to make publ'xc. l f know that the present Minister yof Education 'HMe was looking out that there shouid be no in-- 1 _ was in favour of one . serics only, and ';\ll the Censs in the a:rice of books, Thess negotiations imeimbers nf.. the . Gavernthelth kuew.~ «Muppose were still in progress,. As to the retail dealers, J || there had been a change of policy in the Govern-- they should not tor a moment assums that it had { | ment on this point ? MHa would call the atiention not been looked into. _ The publishers had a,reed | | i t » 6 ackle t C s 8 9 o »Cimapon House to :""'}cr:' "ll)" '-0""1""'.!""1'1"" iY to take the old books from the retail dealors at a the unwise poticy of the »ninon n)V"HlllNll"« o ireg | hem as best they could. * thit the bonds should be burst. _ When it tl'n'. n o e en enc cbo 261 estail dealers b 1 c al lt Oonfederat tiirenatened | This was announced to the retail deaiers by Cir-- was shown that '"":'T eration w..m m,u'. n.(vA +0 cular, -- Information had been obtained as to the i and an earnest protest rang out from the North« | | amount of these books throughout the coun-- + \1\ eat ])Blll'lc:s, h;l'l.]nh'n Macdon«ld n{t,"l)!)'(l | try. The p'_lblishel'i had given a bond to the | i '.";::::" ul:{.' an -- han hg"j over his Imrt?n]lu to | Education Department that they would take | | at ponsible man is lar as the. people were these books off the hands of the retail dealers, cv.cerus4, who Caanged lhis policy and i sued now and the retaul dealers were satisfied. It was not l regulations. -- Now compare the two positions :---- difficult to see that the two series now m( use | ' in one place there was a decision upon a point would be exhausted in t"lgll.tt't*l\ months. er: upon whict re might be justly two opimons tain of the series now authorized could form part I ch there might be justly tw I NS, f t be wholl f and the other which everyous condemuaed. _ Yet of the new series and they would not be wholly p the Dominion Ministry had not been assailed for 1 useless, He was sure .tha.t t'he (,ovcrnm'en_ti i ? 2 making the change. -- HMe proceedsd to review alil would have no difficuity in satisfving the retai \ B the steps taken for a change of Readers from the ! dealers, parents, and _uul)hshersf on thas qil)esth)l:. \ % L ciccu'ar issued by Mr. Crooks in 1882 to the re-- It had been stated that the EAucation 1 °Pf"l'v' 1 port of the Central Committee to which the mat-- ' ment had mnuduceq the Royal Readers into the 13 ter was relerred. _ He demonstrated the absolute | Norimal aud '\l"(fi'Ll]*bCh]"Mji without h}rit ((;!Jll'.t.ln; | ' f ut bept -- A j p j sset g asters. e diud now - impartiality ot the Committee, with their ad-- / ing the assent of the headmasters 3 | mirable fitness for the duty, and showed that know that the Government 'r'equufed tuR;.'et'tln? the action of the Government had been conson-- assent of tho headmasters. The Roy :'xlb S.mex;.\ # 3 t P id | j > p A\ c ~| = -- ant with the recommendations of the Committee. had been introduced because (L'l'"-' h'.ltt C ud tl;';e 18 It being six o'clock the Speaker left the chair. commended by the Central Committecs as her 1 B L After recoess best, and they also recommended two other | BP 4¥1. & . . , T + y 9 ; ; ar ' | _ Nir. HAKDY, resuming the debate, said he series as .\.n.'l' and No. 2 in plmnt Of'o:et:fr}:m); | | I:mnew of no Government in the world which could excellence, _ These books were ail compicte, | 1 x s + by that Committee. What did the I suy that they had always decided in the wisest examined by tha or dray s . ' w y_) 11 h'l hown that the action of the Gov Government -- organ, the high authority in || U ay. 3 ad shown tha e aclulhi 1 * * C nole 6 I * | etnment was not unreasonable in sanctioning the educational _ matters, say . As far back _ as t H | two sots of Readers.. 'The whole arguments 'ad-- the 29th of May :--**' We commend the Royal ' | d 'wo se 3: . i zuments A. ic rey stion ' $ vanced on the question were summarized and pre-- Readers .to the public T bey 0:3& 0(}';"1;"'\'. » | | P sented to the Government by the Central Com-- the choicest and l»e:.t. irom o.f.\etl,vl 1:(we\'er e ar E) .4 d mittee, and it sanctioned the autnorization of It goes on to 83}"' t(:; mit{', )'-':l' })"é"'lt'rs")cc\;py ; two sets, -- He had had occasion to ascertarn the ] fully convinced that the ivo ow uh i d t ¥ ies 5 5 ; ce f1 eserve : practices of other countries in this respect,. The a much higher place .md. uzwii'ot'-;""\rcddc-'s- | |g ' Ontario Government had adhered to the course l universal patronage t.!.um any 0 ;Jl i 1I'u'l s"'\'u'l' of having one set of Readers more than any other sors and (?uiupfl)tllur;!'. l'urt;llner, 1e J (s mle is | 4 a Ens ho e « rg ¢ MU'® 0 < 8 country except Germany. _ ln England there were I --*'The first remark naturally t"c"'::: the Royal no less than seven series of books in actual use, the eminently Canadian clha{;\c ex;l a nrorrile It was true that they bhad an examination stand-- l Reaters,. It has evidently been th cnuy Gank: ard, but in order toreach that standard they j puU!l:*'llt:l'S to make their books eiminently made the selection of one or two series in each dian. a C s AS--AAn school. -- In <--Massachusetts each town or lm\'n-[ Mr. MERED[TH asked if 'éhlero 'wl')."isSth ship Board selocted its own Reader jrom any undertaking that the books should be [; xd'on || M foaders published throughous the Union. is in Canawvda, and_wh_et,her that.wvas repor bdan. is s | ' showed the number of Roeaders used in other Mr. HARDY said that both of Ul'""- lg'"': """ [+] : ' States in the Union in support of his arguament. undertaking that the\'.wou.d print the a\flh-l)e [ | ' t 'he CGovernment might have gone on wi:huut! Canada unless otuerwise allowed byl dl'e en i | deserving ceasure and authorized the threo | partment. _ Both the publisners "?'th Ll.'e | Roeadersa Individually he would not say that it allowed . to (_lep:n.'t feon s es "'\'ll first' ' } would have been a wiss course, | The greater the spect -- to _ their _ first ed.tions,. _ + wbl' lcd | authorization, however, the iess the monopoly. edition of the Royal 'Rea.dcrs was pa 11?'?," F : Some prominent educationists were in favour in Scotland,'and & ]w;'t.um{of the firss e(.dod t : three Readers, Professor Young was in if the other in the United States. He proceede of the three & * of t J i both | to show that other Provinces had adoptec i BPE . 7 * §] § 1 1