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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 11 Mar 1884, p. 3

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a ' w Igr'r: - r_ ' 1. _". _ .. _ _ 1?trf Ft'-""". _ I _ , 3;; new _ ', ' ""' -- V r, " it Fi"' . ' ya the A llgltiai for tite bathe one. _ l _ , _ . tt',tu,,,l!,)' trt'ir,'yel. the SI,',','.'. Ho would . Mr. MOWAT thought the amendment WA: . . _ LL" dammit", int-muon- used by tle Inspector. one which .required, consideration, but he wi-sglnd 1 ~ W-". _ Mr. FRASER wanint in favour oi tho unioii'l- the ditroussion had taken place. The reasons _ 'l -, "mm of putti1ttitrit the permit who bousthtri"iuH _ i given for the motion were very wrong, but at " - during prohibited hour". while the in Ill woo Rot ' the some time it was perfectly evident that , " gloriously drunk in on illicit groggery should get , in order fairly .to con ider the question there ,i of, oc.ot iree. I must be a carefully prepared resolution. (Hear, _ l [ " Mr. Fiiiiiiosiiratniltott)asiked for the nthrinn- hear.) Before they were called upon to vote _ l l tiou I f the prinuplc. and adturtted that P"ru.tH." upon it they should carefully consider the propo- F ' i E it might nut K" for ttttoUdlt, but if tr.,, "rt.tteiyle l tation. Hon. gentlemen who were tamiliur with l , l 7' was unmanned they could not over the objection ', the administration of justice lied experienced FF.' of the t',oenmirmttter of Crown luiiidl. l trrest dihieulty in obtaining convictions under . ' P.' , Mr. FRASER thought the clauso Would not in 1 the License Law. This amendment. he thought, ' l ' the intrwesr, or those who wld iliicutly, (or it in at presentynade, would tend to increase this l T Would olioctnaliy Close the months of thours who l difficulty. He would like to see such a motion ll V purchased in vtotation oi the law. livery "In" / i surrounded with the proper safeguards. It was s , who wan a party to the violation oi the law' t further to be observed that this was a, matter l ' would find "hum" in the po'uttott of out, lialrw to which had not received much public nttention. ' be ittdicceu, tutd there would be. Ie.wt tretterit He had not seen any discussion on the éubject in . , clmvrct'unu for violation during prohibited hourr. the newspapers. The change would be a. pro- " Mr. MEREDITH said helm-l tnve.rtrkmspers nounced visvolutiouttry one. Sometimes such , ask Ior a provision of this sort. They waned for changes accomplished n creed deal of good; I some answer to give win-e who "3de them to k but whether this amendment had been pm.' l open their ltoutws. seated in full form or not he did l Mr. HARDY said the amendment wns going not know, but it was a remarkable l l further than any proposal for a euinptuairy law thing that those who had given great cmiilidera- l l . ' in the l'rovmce had none. It had new? been tion to the subject of temperance. as a body were , l mode a. part of the low that at man should not against it. Ile thought the house should pause l l l drink if he could honestly get the liquor. He. befoto passing such tut amendment, as they were 1 l l was tastistied that the tempornnce people woul l not in a. pouition to consider it. l l i not like the amendment; in foctrtnw bod niu- Mr. GIBSON then withdrew his amendment. ', ( diouoly avoided tho proposal, while the licensed I ' IJQUUR AT THE INDVSTRIAL FAIR. ; , victuallern hnd'naked ty., tt. haw"! quite til' I Mr. MCLAl'GllLlN moved in amendment l , If"? tt proposition to rautt at m c oaung o a ', to the bid to inclu ie in the clause prohibiting l Pariiament. - . l the sole of liquor at agricultural fairs. the In. i, , F Mr.CRRiGHTON could not see any difference dtutrial Exhibition, Toronto. and other {airs at l l . 1 . between thotru who uuupted Mid thc tempted, ': London, Kingston. and Hamilton. The amend- l I and would have the urilawiul purcloser Pu?" I went was carried without opposition. l f _ ', ished as well as the seller. They were not leuie- l The Act will be known as the Liquor License l l i laring simply in the interests of temperance, but ; Act of 18tl4. i ' in the interests oi morality. , l The Committee rose and reported progress. l _ J Mr. woon was. heartily in accord with the l l MUNICIPAL AMENlr.WENT. _ ', l amendment.. Magitstttytet Wksllod to punish the 5 Mr. Fraser introduced a bill entitled the i ; , I men who aided the tseller In "MINDS the law. 1 Municipal Amendment Act of 1884. l l. Mr. FRASER asked Mr. Wood on a magis- l , $140031) READINGS. l l trate nliether convictions would be more readily , i, Tee following bills were read a second time t-- l , F obtained it the informer was hood. i l Respecting the property of married women-Mr. . g s ' Mr. WOOD did not think it would help ori l Mount. To secure for wives and children the l _ hinder the cause. The parties who got liquor V benetit of life ousurance--Mr. Mowat. ' ' [ were not the moot anxious to toil about it. E The House adjourned at 12:05 till 11 am. on i, : Mr. ROSS (Huron) thouzht the amendment _ . M "WNW- 1; was going e little too for. They would do more l NOTICES or narrow. i" "i "e-ares rho oa-rvlrtr rs'." "' "m" ' .r.s. ' "t . Mr. Frenels--Un Thursday nest-Resolution ' l lotion by this ameudttwnt than the old system ' that it ii desirable that the Government's atten l . j/ ow: di l. . ', tion be drown to the dir,crimiuating legislation l _ 'i, Mr. Dill'ltY wad and! if the llllonuvarrt were 2 passed by this Home against High and Model I ' subj civil to luaw mourns they Would find a . .'Schooln in municipalities separated from thel i _ lliliiguliy in proving miles. . , counties tor municipal purposes, and that it is ', in' Mr. GIBSON had not Propose" his amend. unjust when such schools are made {recto tliel if? ment to itlilllrl.' hiniu-lf. Ho had done Mi because i ublic generally that they should not be wilted I " he felt >[i'~il|i.'l)' about". ile repuurate.d the il' the county councils. . "lea thut ht: 'U"ttN acting ill the inter' ; " _----------. pd 3" cue oi the licensed viva:dle.rs. If the tctnpev:rnee party objected to this "tuettdpto.n) it i would be only ull tis ground that it Would inter- 'i fere with the procuring of convictions. Ho had _ but the sluhuut doubt but if an amendment ouch as he proposed Win carried, it would greatly reduce tho amount. M drinking on Sun- dayu in the citv lwlcls and other places. He did . not desire the mutter pressed if the hon. the . Sit-rotary wijed itn discussion iloforred. -. lie would like to 800 it lull commuted ' when the nrst' 'r w."" 1ii,uussod. lie . . (lid not understand wl tho Unvernnmiit opposed te T _ it. lie minim-ed twat e "innit how come none on atuetarvcut. it it were tho tnvwailitist opinion i of too (funmitr-o: that the amvudtucut Would a work. he thought the Gov,uumictit would accept . it. lie would adhere Io Lilo ainendinuiit under ' . all circuut.stauct a. If In: shouid have to give for. . g wal ttolut of it he would submit, but he Would 'h rather have the matter deferred than disposed or , suunnurilc. . l _ Mr. lit NS (Mildlmr'x) fenrrd that the amend. a l nient would i.iil to accotupiish tho object. iiitend- , ed. lie was in [minor of the object, whicn be t l knew was to slop the illicit Mile of liquor. If it i could be made cltru. to him that if by this means . , it would prev-cut this sale oi liquor he would Vote ', for it, but he thong-it. it Would frustrate thu only menus of obtaining convictions. llgcouid not ' ' vote for this mnendiueiii. ' l Mr. FRASER said belied not the remotest ', . intention of an in;' tho hon. inenibor fo incl-love . I that he (Mr. Gibson) was acting in the interests ' F of the licensed victuallers, He believed the lion. , gentleman was most sincere in inovuig his ' amendment. r 3 Mr. HARDY thought that was a serious pro- t position. It wad serious to submit to the Com. I . _ iiiittce on a quit-t discussion without itearitur the i '_ opinions of the country on such an amendment. -, The hon. gentleman had not given notice. Thrs _ c-. l "as a big question. it Would be found that _ ' _ the licensed victuallors had advocated this _ . " question of punishment of the man who 2 . I bought the liquor, while the temperance people I 'opposed it. He was ."ot prepared to consider . g .' l the intention, and was in favour of having it de. V doyed. w ' . l 1 Mr. MEREDITH claimed that notice had i 1' l been given of such a move. It had been men- . l l, l wiped at the second reading of the bill by hum ' ' u . i F ( 7 Mr. FRASliRsaid the result or this amend. 'W,', ment Would be that the chance" of It conviction l would be much low. it the law would be more . l I respected by making it an offence to drink in I prohibited home he was with the hon. member f I I but he had not. been convinced that ouch Would l _ __ - __-_---.-----.----------.----...-., II

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