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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 20 Mar 1884, p. 13

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if: Y?". - #35531 ' A ,. , . 'j',':": _ '; _ "t'9, 1'35}. f; _ - ' t rt ooeurrod shortly not wish to u tried Jonitly with them. l . 'a's"l',htel.mh'e,t,t/tltuhplrd of February, Mt. Denison-lt 1 were to try the case sum- i C' when Mr. Gibson. dt" Remind)". Watt on his feet, marily all_four of the defendant» must consent. ( - a gentleman, a member of the House. came to me I think it is a case to go before a higher Court. and asked me to see him in the corridor, which I I am not bound to. try them Innimnrilv._ Tite did immediately. We went out into the refresh- Act provides. that Jf the evtdence is tnaftr,iieni I went room, and at once in came Bunting without _ have the discretion of sending the case to a, my knowledge and alone. He at once alluded 3 higher Court. , . . ' . _ to the questiouof Mr. Gibson's alleged indepon, t Mr. Cameron-li there is evidence unmet ' dance of the Government, and said it was no use l the other sdef.e.ttflaat.a,.w.il) my client necessarily denying that the Government was in it very ttttm have to submit to a. trial before a higher Court? certain position and thet it would be a desirable l Mr. IJepisoty.--oh, not not if there ll no evi- tliing to form a coalition. His coming l deuce anninst him. . into the refreshment room Without iii- ', Mr. C'tumsvon--I any we are innocent. We' vitation and alone made me suspicious, , , know nothing about the guilt or innocence of the and " soon as he addressed himself to me: Iother parties. i' on .the question of forming a coalition l ' Mr. J9enison--Do the other three defendants C immedintolv connected it with Mock's request to all wish to be tried by jury? me to see Bunting. I at once intimated that I Mr. Ciatlc---As far as Bunting is oonetsrtted,wo _ connected him with the former negotiations, and wish to be tried by jury at the earliest possible yyveetyli that he was attempting the same end. moment. Upon this, we had some unpleasant words, more Mr. Jhynison---Thtsn I understand that the de- f forcible than polite. fondant Kirkland elects to be tried summarily l By W. Ihti.i.. and pleads " not guilty." and that the other de. l 2--1 ou said Meek was . personal acquaint- fondaiitu. Bunting. Meek, and Wilkinson, all anctr of Your own? A.--Yer. three elect to be tried by jury, and plead " not l fl.-rl lad some knowledge of the county 3 A.-. guilty." h as, he is a native of it. Mr. Cameron-li there is no evidence a ainst Q.-Is he the some Meek that its charged at the .liim, will my client, Mr. Kirkland, be triedr with l Police Court? A.--Yes. the other defendants? 1l.--Hrave you any reason to believe that the Mr. Dattison--Wuen I have heard the eu- {offer he made you was made on " own b0talt dense I shall be able to decide what will be I only? A.--Frutn my knowledge of him I be- done. I have made up my mind, how- _ here that he was telling the truth when he ever. that the case must be tried before a ' i said he was authorized to make it. He higher court .f there is any evidence to warrant I told me that I could have a cheque for 83,000 or my sending: the case there. Ui course if there is l 84,000 at once. I know his circumstances well no evidence against your client or any of the 5 enough to know that he was not able of his own other defendants the case against him or them p "0.efffi', to minke such an offer good. l will be dismissed. ( Q.-- e ma " some reiorence to some at rear sup- t P ' porters of the Government going over. A.--Vrs. l , MR. ff'.""' N MM. l Q.--Uid he say "I have secured " or did he so . i Ir.. babe" yeEim. "tttt ttten called and ,I I "Wo have secured.'" A.-I think he said "\Vis examined by Mr. Irving. In ruply to mu" l have secured." him". he said. he was I. member of the l . 1t.--How many did he mention? A.-Six l he .l'Iyiy'cia,lJegi.alat.ups,. representing 11%st Wel. ' , may have said five or nix. I would not be posi~ 1tyrtutu. rhe, J.tyyytt,yti had been in "a." ' " tive about that, and he may have said 66 I have sioii since January dd, and .he .had been in I e secured" ', I took no note of it. He gave me attendance the whole ot that time save rhet,i,,yo l .l the impression that that number WM secured, 1ry.l titlce.'a a holiday for one ttr two days. Tue l i and I would not "r how they were secured. l uh1aPut:1tiot! went on no follows '.--. ' f 2---He wound up the conversation by desiring 2--s Ott board m the Walker Wyt.e .ant' I _ the whole matter should be considered " per ( sin-or, a short distance from the Parliament I sum" to himself? A.-Ye, ' I Buihlm;,rs'.' Ar-rr es. i E 1t.-vllhat was when you had declined to con- f) 14):) you know two gentlemen named John l ' . sider the prooosal? A.--ym. ll Illillninli and.,?). Meek , A.---Yes. l ! 1l.-And he understood there "no no chance of I " TWlW" did yo first cm?" f? know Mr. l t success? A._.ye.. ' in} lllilllsun I' ,Ac--.1 first met with liiruon one of I f V.--Not until then? A.--Yes. the boats on q 'Ol'gl'itll Bay about the time of the l Q.--Did he more than one! intimate that he Algonin elections last fall 'r. that was the first l had authority to make the proposition? A.-- tune. fla..lyll you yee,hin,t between that tum, Not at different times; but he dwelt on the tact, and m" 23rd ot January . I ha.d., . and mam", me that it was true. " -r.n.li you have any 'g"'ttl, conversation Q.-b'eivdea telling . member of the Govern" Witli him? A.--Wcll, we be P conversation of ment, did you tell more members'. A.--Yes. I l some importance once when going to London. felt it my duty to do so for fear that others might I 'l~'["" W relate to subsequent ttveutst.' A.--- " : be approached in the some way. I t telated to tb _ i . The" .Committoo then adjourned, Mr. Fraser Rif.tHft'TRARtgRrP IN THE NORTH-WEST. I, "immune that a Short would have to be tsub. cl.-Nrhen was this? A.-A"some time since last I l mitted today. , .fall ttl)ti,g.t 2t 'st'.httd the gziglatige. t l , l .-- 'here i r. i inson or 17 en a l AY 1": POLICE COURT. Tmloiito': 1.--At the Walker. i The conspiracy "he! at the Police Court yes- I'.-- You had ll'clluclih occasion to meet! A.-- l terday attracted n (rent crowd of persons. The )1'j: D b r any occasion going . T . . _ i.-" n on remem e on F l Court itself woe , m to overflowing, aad outside to any building in tho City where you saw Mr. on Court.atreast v are numbers of persons niiiuous Wiikmson and Mr. Mcek l' A.--1 do. to witness the trial but unable to pin admission. Q.--Whert was it? A.--Ut was on the day I Police Magistrate Denison first disposed of the 'ss, , when the Speaker gave his first dinner at the _ . ordinary police cases. and thouat 11:30 tum. the l i Parliament Buildings. . . , defeiidents in the [conspiracy case were called. ( 2--uht that day where did you meet Wilkin- _ _ They wore accompanied b their counsel. Mr. I son or Mecla: A,--in a room in the Mail build- Wilkinson took a seat behind his counsel. Mr. ; ink. Murphy, where he was screened from obeervatio i Q,--l1llus Mail building is a large buildine It by the crowd of listeners who pressed eager, the, corner of liuv and King streets, occupied as forward. Messrs. Bunting, Meek. and Kirk, l a. nu'wrspatyct' uliice and a great many other land took seats on the south tide of the barristers' i elbow. A.--\'cs. . table, facmg the Magistrate. and in full View of Q.--WIrit, brought about the meeting? A.--. tho court. l Mr. Wilkinson asked me to go and we him and Mr. F onton rose. and objected to i Hunting. any invidions distinction below made bo- ' 1J.-lid you at that time know Mr. Bunting.' tween the prisoners, and insisted upon all of A.-.\'o. , them taking their seats in a row feeling the Cl.-lo you know him now? Ir-i-Pt; l Court. . Q.--1s that the gentleman sitting It t I table i Mr. Murphy said that it we: necessary for his there? il'oiniuig to Mr. Bunting.) A.--Yes. client to sit by his side in order to instruct him l 1').-Avlteu did Wsikinson make tho "NWT in the conduct of his defence. I went about the aiming? A.--b' his room at Mr. Fenton again objected to Mr. Wil. i the Walker Housv. ' kinson hiding behind his counsel in i Q. -And when did ho say you were to we the crowd, and reminded Mr. Murphy l him 't A.---On the day I haye mentioneh . . that it was only a matter of courtesy 2--Wlmre did ymigo to in the Mailbuildiatt . l that his client and the other defendants were A.---l was directed to go into theBw-street l allowed to come within the railing at all. Their . l entratwe, and to go up on the hoist, and the i proper place was outside the railing. where PAP. l elevator man would show me the room. When . . l ties accused of crime usually stood. i 1 got to the room 1 met ll ilkinson. . y : After further cross-firing between tho County l My, Denison-lil you tell the man in the ' Crown Attorney and Mr. Murphy, the Magis- l hoist who you were? A.rr'.rys unmasked m0 i trste ordered Mr. Wilkinson to take his place in I my "mac, and when ! told him he said he had the row on Mr. Luntiiig's left hand. been mid to take iiie.to this room. . l The counsel engaged in the case were u fol. [ (l-What time was this? A.--About mid. lows v--For Kirkland, Dr. McMiclmol and ( day. Messrs. Cameron and Cantrell; for Wilkinson, i, Q.--Who did you f'uul there.'. lk. - Mr. Menus. Murphy Mid Wilkinson l for Bunting, ', Wilkinson and Mr. Meek were inside. They Messrs. McMaster and Clark ', and for Meek, Dr. I had a lot of lilllml's about on the table, and the MeMtcluusl and Mr. Neville. Mr. Fenton, "nun looked like a lawyer's oilice. County Crown Attorney, end Mr. cEmilitu Irv. l (gs-Mr. Meek is a barritttsr, " he not.' A.--. ing. 'tc., ware for the Crown. . . I 11., my. m. Mr. Cameron, on behalf at his client Kirk. i I Q.--What did they speak to you about. Ind land, asked it the Police Magistrate had decided I who spttlio first'.' A.-Mr. Wilkinson. to send the case to a higher Court or to deal with ' Q --Hud you seen Mr. Wslkiuson before! A. it summarily. He claimed the right of a new» l ---No. rate trial for his client, who disclaimed any con- I Tm; puomsmm- sore AND REGISTRARSHIP. motion with or kyow/edge ot the (wilt of the l Q.---Wtust was said upon that occasion! A.-- l . et other defendants ttt their conspiracy. He did! Wilkinson and Meek were preseiitiii the room. i

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