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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 20 Mar 1884, p. 24

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I 3 " vi". , I,' _ _ i _ _ " "' F rt i. ClTi.' i i a i _ 2 , in emitting you to'the "tant of '1.000t A.-I lCm'nmitteo that he could rtsise.8M00in two . E _ mar have spoken of it. l hours A.---I don t remember Iaying it. . , I t . Q.--Did you tell him that you would prefer not l Q.---Dy you remember geing to Mr. Bunting a = ' I to have that 81,00u? A.--No. . oft'tee and saying that you were in favour of a l Ir,' I l 2--Did you tell Mr. I,,",',)',',',',),',',', 1oretd.1 l Coalition Cxovcrrunent .' A.--I never tttud Bo. R' . . - t tat you were not fond " po itics. - o. , . F He said 1 Was a young man and, he Irosy.tsd,not VEXATIOUS QUKSTKONS' ' l l a strong politician, and I replied that this was Q.--Will you swear it? A.-Yes. I never I , rr I . correct. heard ot a coalition until the Thursday I speak I . ' ' . (2"Did you tell him that it was not of much of. ' I i consequence to you on what side at politics you Q. --Did you never hear of the proposal for a tr I 'V I Were ".' A.-1 do not remember saying so. coalition until you went Go Mr. Buniing's offiee 3 a Et I i Q.--Will you swear that you did not make coalition you know is aunion ot both pdlitical - V. such a statement? A.--1 said I was not a very parties to form a Government? A.---Thank you. I I'." 3 strong politician. . No; I never heard of it until I went to Mr. 3 . , Il.---) made you any that? A.--His re' Budtinur'aoffiee. i _ _ . mark that being l young man 1 WM probably not l Q.---Wijl you swear that you did not at your i," ", a very strong politician. . . , r, boarding house, in the preeence of Mr. Bastable ' . 2c--S1t you ran as a Roiorm candidate. A. I and Mr. Wilmot, any you were favourable to a . b V i --) es. . . Coalition Government , A.-Yel. b' . r i U.--What was the amount of your eleotion ex- 2---You told us in your examination in-ehief ' V pcuses altogether: A.---, "WHY esnnot Ntty. that you could not exactly remember what you 1 1l.-9htt about how much do you expect they had said to Mr. Bunting in your interview with I F warn? A.---Frotn What 1 have learnt from others him. A.--h reply to some questions I may l IVthnik they were directly or indirectiy about have said so ; I said Very little, and do not ,0. r _ 83,000 or ihoie. . . . member evervthihz I said. C - l 2--Havu Iv."," any obiochon to "Wag Wh'lt The questioning on this point was kept up for , I you are worth . A..--.1 may be worth Bd nine 1 some time, replies to the some effect being elicited C as you are and worth JUST. as much to my couu~ irohi the witness. and the counsel contending t"y. (Laughton) . ' they were unsatisfactory. At lust Mr. Deiiison ' l Mr. )VlziCiiiastt-r withdrew the qiiostion.V , , said this course of proceeding tended only to . _ r ".9i-r.l'e.t.'g' you went in Mr. Blintiugii ofiico V mystify the witness. and flung no light [E _ ' U'tti you taik pretty freely to c3rtatu parties I upon the enquiry. He had dealt with many 3 . I alVioth your election expenses? Arr-[Virthe house t thousands of cases, and had become so used to i' -" J I w new l mu stopping we used to taik ov.er ',1t' i witnesses that he was generally able to deter. 1 a 3 mutter amoutt.sbothers, and I always said When l mine when a witness was endeavouring to de, , t, , l, the matter was alluded to that tho Reform party f cuive the counsel or the Court. He thought Dr. ' _ nover way! my eximises.V _ howling wan answering: the questions put to him i (, F N Q. ---irid you complain that you had very l, as well as ho could. The question was then put 2 . ' l if"? costs to pay, and that they had nog hulped t once moreiy Mr. Denison himself,and answered i, ', _ you C. . to the Home effect as prowously. This concluded i 'i" r IN ttttegg was about to 'Ove . an explanatory Mr. MaeMuster's "oss-examination. i F reply, but the Ciiiss-oxniiiimng counsel de- 0,0,...oxumined by Mr. Murphy. " . . F rounded a direct answer. whereuwn Mv. 2--You haVe admitted that this is not the i ., I WWW" said. " was in" to, let .tly? , first bribery case you have been concerned in? ' ' ' nitnuss explain, as tho question might I A.-Yes. r A " i he vouded in such a wav that a direct reply , 1t.--And that Mr. McKim was the first to 'i 1 _ V wmmi convey a wrong itupressiott. The question speak to you Of this business? A.-Yesi. ' 'T' l was i'viifnted in a (linen-ht lorni. ", 1l.--Did he approach you for the purpose of i , I It-Yon admitted that your expenses were comm? you to men? A.-He said that Mr. l ', very ltearv, and that the Reform party had not \Vilkineon wanted to see me in the Walker - , ' helped you to pay them ? A.--Yes. . House. 2 , l cr.--; " trye that by wav of complaint against Q.--What was said by anybody about your . I your own polirical party you made thin remark 'l I changing your, "giggiance to your political party , i _ I A.--When they were 'spcakinst Of a few dollars' A.-Mr. McKim said something was going on. . 1 expenses a: an election on one occasmii. I re- and Wilkinson wgntod me to go down and iiii', i t marked that they had no Cnlliu to complain, "3 him. mine were so much more. Some of the Comer. 1t.-9fr. McKim then asked you to go down i I. "tivc"'y"""e"f. "CL-med .-Msr. Mowat's Govern, and we Wilkmsots with the object of defeating . melit ot spending "WHEY trt Alanine, and I sad i the Mowat Government. Did you think from that l wished they had come along to help me. I Mr. Mcluim's words that he was sincere? A.--1 But ot Coureye, this was only ajoku, and was ta. I did tttA know. i . I ken as such. . l Ir-Did you ever tell Wilkinson what your J 1?.--lrui yoa Say that your own party did not '; election expenses were? A.--I never saw him ' heip in WWW}: your Inmvy expenses, end that 1 I before, the meeting 1 have told you of. . they should ttavo done so? A.--1 said. when '; l Q.-lhnv thencould he commence to talk to 1 t v, they spoke of S" much "10ro inning been ex- ( i you about your cicctioiioipense»? How did he ' (its: T V pended Hi Algolua, that It this Wits true they l i, know they Were so much, and that the Reformers /d" T iiiiimt have thaw-ed me. l haul never helped you to pay them? We contend QED" yott K" further, a.ttU. any they should t l that you have been putting your own words intc _ I , have assisted you? A.-d think "ot. ' Wslkiusoti'e mouth. and tellingua what you your" q , ly-l supimso you are of opinion that the l svlf mid to him. A.--Ho said he understood r , . Government did spend this money in Alumna l that the case was as no put it. I am told that he ' r, '. A.--1 am of opinion th it they spent juit l had been told in. -. j" WHAT was iiioiir asp No. Molor- l It.--Nevcrtutn.d what you ht" Ibo?" told; . l about ono-tenth of what your party spent. 'J,"u,"21"l,)"v.'t Iell'jd." draw out Wilkinson ou _ ' I A Laughter). e 1 ' ' .V 'r,"." . T . . "I 1'4 ( Q.-\\'c can'tdiscuss that here. Now, briefly /srr.-.ll,id I?" not, tfo an) 1'i"T in ordefr to draw V" _ to recapitulate you any that you Went to L'unt. ll"? "Y . " . Il J,','".,,,',';),',".? " etter rum '30.?" T .~ . but," s,lfrce, unaccompanied by anybody. and to min, ll,? 'Y/l we age Jou to give upllpcziitits B.' . . Wrkint,ou's room, in the W:cker House, unae" and iff,': t', your; willful-13mm til you l,; .d o BO F, _ ! companied by anyone save Mr. McKiin t A.-- mucn utter . A 'm Wot1 l e to exp tun. {V l, You. I h li d l l did l " l AN ARBITRARY LAWYER. fTilllt i //rEe'"' no at your iote , l '0 not . Mr. Murphy-1iiiiistliavo a direct answer. ""N, T Vi - it. i indeed '. Whero do you live? A.--At i 2dr. Denfsoa---Tne Witness "list be nllowed to l Li. i the Continental. l or]: ""Y, ' . . . a It.---) can you swear that Lynch did not ', _-Ur. :1iurrly---, The" with all duo respect to V . ' "W theie? A. ._i can my that I never saw him, 5 l our \Vorship. I must submit that you are not i; , and had he lived there I think I would have l toliowtug thy law. r _ we" him. l, Mr. )t"t,'g"a,1, am very sorry. I suppose , . ' ivr.--'n' it do You know he did not live there ? you_moan your aw. . . I . 'f A.- diodnniy liiu'u been shut up in a room ; l i .hir.,yuiyrqrySey1intr.. to the law, in , 0905' l f I can any that I never saw him there. tti/ef,,'?,',.',,',','.",",',?,?,,",','","?','.',',',, 'het"..",, (f..,.t?i,.e,iJf..i,: i I l) The cuuiiecl put several other questions on o ' ' " I ' 'f " t ' ' H" " i ' t . I' this point, contending that his question was " 10tt has to bo made. it mint u drawn out after- i not sratistneUsrily answered bv Dr. Bowling. At "7"" "V the ty'T,11te counsel. . hi , . ' At hut Mr. venison interposed, and decided that i ' Mr, "tsntyyt-.-.Tita Witness may "wa- you " l ' . , the witness could not give a clearer answer than t amovqr, and I will "k for tho explanation. i ' V. V mu above. ' Mr. pew.)---!,' part of the letter. l l , tits . WHAT BUNTINO can mum. u.?,,? Denison-Now Ito on With the exp one l - " 't.--Disl Mr. liuntimr say he could raise two The witness explained tyst, Mr. Wilkrnyrn l _ 'd "I , I or three thousand in two hours? A.-Yea,. he had spoken of his (Dr. Dowling "l hta.vy election V t said two or three thousand. ' expenses, and in the conversation tMusuntt out of l - 131"" ; I It.---" you not say it was 82,000? Did he this he (witness) had said that he Ivy. urged by 1 t I * ', my .. two or three " or a " couple " oi thousand! l some to 'tit'" "P "olities, and stick to his profee- , , tr38., Tho witness Could not swuar whethor he had Mott t he lm'l the" read part of a letter from his - - ' si,','" i said .' two or three " or " a couple," but under. l Wife which touched on the matter. , . . 3 r stood that the terms were practically synony- tt.--drid you say tha'vyou had told Mr. Hardy 'l' ' I 1 mods Mr. Fon'on argued that the witness woe that, you did not care for the Government? A. l '7 J. . i correct. Mr. Macinanter contended they did --No. 'll i I not mean the same thing, and that heroin lay '.t.--1vill you swear that? A.--Nes. , . i '; hidden a very important point. After name It.---)) yoiihot say that you had told Mr. ' ' Af l discussion the stcnyirrapherU notes were appealed Hardy that you did not-to use your own words I ' to, and Mr. Downnir was shown to have said -teart, it d-- for the Government? A.--I never I 1 that Mr. Bunting had told him he could raise said so. 'M "a cough," othhouaaud dollars. i 1l.-id you ever tell Mr. Hardy that you did t l It.--" hat did you say.he told he could raise I not care for the Government? A,--No. , when {ougnvo eVidonco in Committee? A.-d I Q.~l)id not M r. \Vilkinsou speak about the r'd think and Mr. Bunting told me he could raise . dissatisfaction with the Mowat Government? (di, . "I couple of thousand dollars. I l A.--Yes. id o.---" it true that you said before the Home 1 1l.-Aud WM it not a fact that such diswatis- l . h; .er . if 'sic!' [ If: _--------------.--------.--,

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