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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 29 Jan 1885, p. 3

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It might appear to some psople on a casual glance that the question of legislation with re-- spect gto education was not of much conse. quente, but it is one which all must confess ap-- peals moredirectly to the people of this Province 100000 00 mearaere ty ry 3 |a}e s LN SS Jt Is true that the psyment for the maintenanco of these paticnts amounts to a very largso sum ; it is needi{ul that there be incrsased a&ccominodation and incressed expenditure, but I believe that tha people of this Province will not regret the expenditur«, THE FRaNCRISR, Now, 'sit, I come to a auestion which has AFi= tuted the people of this Provinece--that is, the question of the franchise. It is to the Liberal party that the people of this Province look for an . extension of the franchise. History has taught | ' us that it is to the Liberal par'y that the people | must look for liberty and f 'dom. n times | past all the great extensions -- e franc ise have | been given by the L beral p16 and ay ~ofer . to the most recent--the Act ng f: ts ns & vote. Now, sir, this Lib Rure ~m -- as '&r,omiud a further extension of the "#""4 hat that extension will be those not +4 with it cannot sar, anud I am sure i «. +. _ Some, perhaps, may think it will be househoiu suifrage, and some might be in favour of univers sal suffrage. Some micht argue, and it is worthy of consideration, that there shoulid be on!ly one vote given to each man, and that be should vote j whers: he resides, while some wo further, and j demand that unm rried women owning property § should have a rigut to vote. 1 am free to atate ' } that [ am opposed to giying the franchise to f women. The question, however, will be dealt | | with by this (Clovernment in a tiberal manner, t and whether it is hou-- ehold zufi'rwe,_ manhood 1 suffruge, or othor exten--i r, the liberties of & tht people will be safe, and the change made in y & "direction by which the most good may be t accomplished,. | Never yot has a Liberal Covern-- % ment been afraid to trust the people, and never | || yot has it been said that the Liboral party is | y afraid to place power in the hands of the prople, h (Applause.) ACCOMMODATI0X ropr Now, sit, we come to a part which there is cause for rvegret. there are several hundreds of +4 in the gaols who ought to be is It is true that we have accomm 0,000 persons ; it is true that th maintenanco of these paticnts largso sum ; it is noedf{ul that tot prices of oats ob brought us $21,024, £1,730,889, _ By a" docregse of 81 239 « 24 4 g _ _A "C ~mmd nave realized $26,518,567 instead of only $17,402,810, which shows a de-- crease of $9,115,757. {f for apring whoit thig year we had the prices ruling at that tima that crop would have brought 817,823,786, while at the present time the prices ruling wil) only bring #12,564, 308, being a decrease of $5.259,478. The prices of oats obtainuable in 1877 would have brought ns L314 G91 *n~ rv 8 o on EYE WY oi Mc as now, we w instead of onlvy $17, crease of §9.115 757 t ap 4 _____ YCye0e,rsnd, !u)(l} tal decrease of ®17,404,200, Porsmrer Harvyes1 and this is a cause of congra; peop s But while we harva raham FUCETT STE CV WUTH fare 3 7. 9. O OV --°Arour J trust that there will be fewer ecru«es of discurd in the future thap there bave been in the past, that horealter the Legie-- lature of this Provines will be allowed to transact its own legislation, und that the result will be to conduce to the hapmnoss and prosperity of the whole D--ininios. (L ud cheers.) Now. sir. I seo that hy tha savantl; brrazraph we are aske i to coagratulate ourse} ¥es upon the very 10g20 0 CCMO, MECIELCY E7eviveiy that -- the question was . one with which" the C rovernment _ of the Province had no right to _ daal, Now, #ir, I think the psople of this Province have great reason to feel proud of the decisions in the questions I have refarred to. For 'years we have feit that there _ was very _ liittle _ use of our Provincial system of {iovernment if _ the -- legislation bassed _ hore was -- to be disallowed, and that we bad better bave a Legisiative instead of a Federal Union, but to--day the spectacle is presented ot the Premier of the Province of Ontario having contendsd, and sue-- cessiully contended, for the intorests of . the Pro-- vince, and now that those (mestions have been settled in our favour J truep that there will be | fewer cru--es of discord in the fuature thapn there | bave been in the past, that horeafter the Legie-- lature of this Provines will be allowed to transact its own legislation, und that the result will be to conduce to the hanuinaee amu i S NVD 2 Lt MB ACk--Sir Johrn Mrodonald f the House of Com. ( mons, Feb,)2th, 1833,' 'Now, 8ir, these ato -- the opinions was I find them expressed by Sir John Macdonald | upon this queation. But .'3;: John is not the only man who is a leader of the Conservative party who expressed wrouy convictions mpou this aues. tion. Daiton McCarthy, one of the Conservative Meaders at Oi:*+«w. .. ; 2 ) NC 0+ the 1 leaders at Ottaw probable fnture positively -- that with -- which Province had THE EDUCATIOXNAL PROBLRY 2 207, °00 iA WR 'SUIO k ue °v. may think it will be householu me might be in favour of univers ome might argue, and it is worthy , that there should be on!y one ch man, and that be should vote les, while some wo further, and mirried women owning property gut to vote. I am free to state ed to giying the franchise to semukt. _ UV .SV seuod ye* qorl 53 .A wBit * {HMAGRGE, AG@KLJ In at was the time when our epponents 'as an opportunity for enriching the 0 bad bad the "0ill,031 bushels of @irnored this year _ at the 8 per bushel then provailing instead ¥, we would have realized 8°F; 518 ~/7~ 2 V° this Frovince--that is, the franchise. _ It is to the L.iberal eaple of this Province look for an tranchise, History has taught the Liberal par'y that the psople liberty and f 'dom. n times t extensions « e franc ise have e I»nberal ps and ay ~ofer it--the éc{ ng f: s ons l uk io "yp ze w -- _ "N®PoY 0y ramming <the prices, a is an absurd question, but no han _ the contention _ of _ the parsty in 187S that under a pros t.'xc' f:'rlu'ers would meet with a IRONT walt s lam L tawa, and who i« ure Minister of ; (EPNant ©11,823,786, while at the prices ruling wil) only bring ; a decrease of £5, 259%,478. The »btainuable in 1877 wou!ld have 4,595. _ There :s a decrease of a armilar comparison thera is a ;215, and of rye of £$53,950, or a 17 sAi ara 273 ) , _ Deral manner, »ehold sulfrage, manhood xten--i>r, the libertics of , and the change made in h the most good may be \_ y3 3,, 'nousiry as profitable rould* have been, Perhaps we orest in asking ourselves where '\\'ho-e magic ward was to make TTE ME cz part of the Address in of nnforfixflfit?pooplo be in insane asylums, mmodation for nearly V O\ Wralicu-- d o 8 PQOR Txsaxk,. It fippe;;;'vtrl: nt. laooked upon as the Justice, declared C Mitabdh a + m c3 _ . --, t _", 1150 Above party, for 1 have nctfi,ho least doubt that the man who said *'"rpat one stick of timber, ona Inmp of lead," eta., will attempt fo retain _ for his 'friends the riches of that conntry. © Since the award has been made by the highest Court in the realm al{ t.fg}find';nntu:.;e; acernuing frem this large territory khnuld immediately come into the hands of this Pteo'firee, and 1 ask them when the time c mes ton® * above vbarty for the sake of their country, "..~> vust that when the time . comes there will be" lissenting vorce from the . demand that we shon!,.. _ _ .\ 311 1% ,0ICC from 1 lurge territare Ty" >3 -- ""l85e» acerning from this large territory > buld immediately come into the hands of this Pr 'fre, and 1 ask them when the time c mes to» * above varty for the sake of their country. > ust that when the time comes there will be" lissenting vorce from the demared that we shoule up the fall ban»fit arig. ing from the undisputes possessiun of this large territory, (Applause.) J beg to move that a ME CP COSS. WR reat the opinion of Mr. Dawson, who i familiar with the natural resources of t trict, they will find cause for chinging utternnces, Mo deciares it to be 8o va that the building of unew Parliament Ba wiil be a mere bagatelle, and the Pr would have any amount ot revenue for aj to come. 'TFhe (Opposition will have the tunity to rise above Perty, for 1 have n least doubt that the man who said **p stick of timber, ona Inmp of lead," will attempt fo retain for his 'f t'l. rlflile! of that mermserkul ges & THR NEW TERRMTORY, We sha'l be cailed up on to enac hattar government of the' new terri "~sen rrined by the efforts of tha n pelty (Putirn APatmitab lt o MB tss tss L 0e oi s s Bd 10 l ere should be fio party government, | ; they really desire that, however, the safea man for _ a -- 'leader would be the bresont Attorney--Gisneral, (Applane.) -- Hi. Ineasures aro just, sand in the interests of the Province; his exertions are such 2s have bren to the interests of the who!s people of this Province, and his management of the expendituros so faith. ful and economical that even our opponents haye scarcely whispered that they shonid be lessened, (Applause.) 'Then let us work for the common interest with decision, and let the Opposition throw down their Weapous of warfare and declare that _ they _ will Osupport the Administra-- tion of the Attorney--General, (Apnplayse.) I bave, sir, in counch sson to say that 1 t Seve that this Province is cu t} . 's * of a graoce *h as nevor has been r > ! ;4 ; / p&st, -- W sir, if we have this .. q;ic+o-- SUpBor6s | tas Conservative: r ni d pu i PC ns truitars _ _fi _ UUC AdOgrais of this Prov. ince as traitors, (Cheers.) it seems to be almost too absurd to m»ntion thatiws have been aslied to sink politics whilo the leader of the Tory party declared that he personally wonld do a) that he conid do to overthrow the Mowat Government ; that all his strengt=, all his power, and all his in. fluence,would be exerted in that direction. That every effort and ba dia 20. C0C h -- enng4, 41 _ _ J _ _ [_ _ SY i# St i Congis-- tent with the courso they pur--ve. 'The Conser, vative party}navefollowed out different principles not only in their const:tuencies burt in the cou: ts and the legislative chamber, and yet we are ask-- ed to coalesce with men who have derided our leader and stiomatiaa. .1 _ 3 .. 14Y0@ derig A paragraph in the Spercn refers to a re the judges and the evidence taken in the ] Commission. _ I will not anticipate that and as I have not heard the evidence, th remark« I aw called upon to make are th ' believe that this Loegislature did their duty they appointed that Commission,sn i 1 trn in the futureo there will be no recessi the appointment ol -- another Comm And this brings us to consider the editor the * Mail," asking for cvalition, asking fo independent men on this side of the House with the leader of the Upposition, 1 woul whether the demand they make is at all c tent with the coursoe they pur--ve. 'The C ¥ative nartulharvekealheain 36 1 U APY ons £ABr be dsemed it 2,,,, @ ... s 7 A2RBOn F mit wil) j , ,'FOH1 She IfArone ' & made manifes® im 12 G°°U® Ye&¢ the fruit will be !ne?x;.aw 6t tha' ?"Elye'i?J'g.n'%?."?fP?fi':'f,&".}z made manifest in the increaged intelli ance and ' relations exisyng" 49: wean the Bieutenant--(iov. higher culture of the people. 'fho aver> ; ernor end this Assembly, he should vremige age attendance is 215,561 in the Public' his rewarks by assur n« {1 a Honour that his Schools, which is an increase cver previous | feeling, expressed in the first part of the Addres % years. -- In cities the Sverage attendance has been -- was fuly reciprocated by this House. -- \Wo most 46 per cent., against --% the previous year, in -- hceartily congratulate His Ronour upon the im-- towns 59 against 55, and in rural districts 43 per Partiality and dignity he has displayed and the cent. _ 'The actual number of teachors employed constitutional manner in which ha lhhas dischargod is 6,011, an increaso of 24 over the previous yeoar, | the high dutic« pertaining to his po--ition, while the amount of money expended mnpon edusi-- (Hear, hear.) 1 aiso beg leave to express i tion was $3,108,430. This is a question which we | fop Mrs, Robinson our high sense of the may--take into consideration without . exciting | dignified and courteous manner in which she fiatty feelings, and doubtless both sides of the | has dispensed the hogours of CGovernment House, wuse will assist the Minister of Elucation with.-- and I am sure I have the voice ofi every member out desiring to gain any party advantage, so that | present when I say it is with sincere regres that we may have a perfect measure, we view the approach of the expiration THE Cocxty couvrrs, 1 :if His Hm{our's terme _ as Lieutenant~ o s [ M vovernor, Now, sir in referenca We are asked . to give attentnorl' to a Bdl.to: to the Address, I see that in several of the Sirat extend the jurisdic:ion of the County Courts, | t h fticed, 1 odest and unassum-- | This will certuinly lessen the cost of litigation | PAT*8raphs are r'm 1090+ in & Jt o resuiy \rigg | and relieve the over--burdoned judges of the }MS.W2Y. u:" reauits uf'the invesfigation by H" | Superior Court Majesty's judicial advisors touching matters of | »up * the utmost importance to the best interests of { THE BRIRERY couMtsstOX, this Province, and, _ sir, 1 congrstuiate { A paragraph in the Spesen refers to & report of | the Government on the success they havef the judes and the evidence taken in the £nbcry obtained. -- Such a confimation _ of their | Commission. _ I wiil not anticipate that report, views, _ such _ a vindication _ of _ their [ and as I have not heard the evidence, the only policy and of the course they have pursued, such / remark« I aw called upon to make are these : I a aweeping vietory all along the line of their con« pelieve that this Legislature did their duty when tention«, is something, I thin!;, unparalisled in | they appointed that Commission, sn | ] trust that _ the history of Provincia) or Dominion polities-- : a the futuro there wili be no necessity for ( Cheors)--and when _1 consider | from -- a | he appointiment _ of another _ Commission, Frovincial standpoint -- the _ magnitude of | And this brings us to consider the editorial of tho interests involved and the imnortance he * Mail," asking fop cualition, asking for the of the Provincial rights at stake J feel that the I ndependent men on this side of the HMouse to go people of this Province owe & debt of gratitude ; vith the leader of the Upposition, 1 would sok / to bon. mentinmen faw 11. . .. 0 SHF O gt vyhether the demand tharw ...1 °* _1 w9 ct = 1 e eeeeeeeeieee > fer there are rbout 6,00p teachers concerned and over half--a--million children, -- J3; affects the teachers, for it has to do with the grade of their certificates, and in fact it ought to appeal diucgj to every man in this Lsglilaturo, because we fi that we are called upon io expend a large amount of money, 'This :3 expended in the direc; inte-- rest of the people, and thouorh «wa ... U CCS, 12te" mmaing of new lParliamen & mere bagatelle, and th 1yo any amount otf revenue The UOpposition will have d Bs iA s d t i) There is in that lan. ants, and unbou: ded ___In order to dim vince's victory. and . ~'ou up on to enact laws for nt of the new territory whic) the efforts of the Mowat Adi § 0 0 00 C OTZ ©RUTECT®N in that land ag enlarged fio!d nslc in s h. .. 6've atiention to a Bill to | diction of the County Courts, ( lessen the cost of litigation | over--burdened judges of the ~onservatives now in oppo-- talk of eoalition and say ) party government. I1f hat, however, the safeat ader _ woald be the HYutihe Cld t wlz d a not say what kind of ed to defoating the Liberai scovince, and nlacing power OMSETYREIYER OW In cmeue *4 20 C OmHnnells <if at, however, the safeat der _ would _ be _ the f eral. _ (Applane,} His | 1 in the interests of the are such 2s have bren to le people of this Province, the expendituros sn faith-- even our opponents haye they shonid be lessened, s '.""{k for the common an _ tor changing their it to be go valuaible Parliament Buildings & kuj .l c e . wea resources for the diminish the extent WO acal o ue RCOmP and the Province revenue forall time fav s T ¥e _ the Administra-- Jleneral, (Applayse.) to say that 1 t eve 'v *a of a groce *h t 1: past, W _i FO'@r® to a report of ence taken in the £nb¢ry t anticipate that report, 1 the evidence, the only n to make are these : I ture did their.duty when a'ssion,.sn d ] trust that 1 be no necessity for another _ Commission, sider the editorial of ilition, asking for the ide of the House to #o J 10 uf thias Jro «ltiost ngxaect the op'pq}-: 0o is most o the dis-- litg -- peo-- ntir for the bhich has Admin= ho neg, 270 riumbie Adaress be presented in reply to th affects the Spsech from the Throne. (Loud an finkeq de' «":'fx t.bc.i!' applause. ) 4s d continued + to _';':" MR. MEREDITH's "EPLY, Ost Mr, MEREDITH, on rising, _ asloudly ch.ar-- ted 29 by his {riends, He heartily wuncurrei in )1 rty the c»bservutlopu made by the last speaker in . -- he HArd to the Lieutenant--( tovernor, and he was it; quite sure every momber of this House would res in: ciprocate the kindly feelinge expressed towards rag them in the Speech. The first speaker had in his of | ludgment mave several statements which were rai | Not borne out by the records of this Parlizgment, er | With regard to the settloment of the Boundary »9. | Award, he and every member on that side of the ar | hous_a must concur in the congratulations that the 1f; || question had becorne a settled one. He was not a,; || there -- to depreciate -- the efforts ofi the he || leader of the Ciovernment so far as they were ;« || Concerned in the direction of procuring a set. he || tlement, but bad Mr. Mowss consented to the to | Gesire of Sir Johnu Macdonald to refer the mat-- | e, |) fer in the first place to_the Privy Council | ,. j instead of to arbrtration it was a question which | a || Wight have been settled years ago. 'They had . , | hea i members charged with treason to tho I 1 [ Province because they preferred a reference of | n || the case to the Privy Council, but these hon,. | s | Ren_tlemcn furgot tha_t three days after the | j 91 ar itrators made theu: dec.'siou_ theu" leading )| opjyan proclaimed that it was not in the interests § 15 of _ the Province that it should accept , || he land awarded to it _ That was b--fore any question had been raised between the two Gov -- | ; _ arnments,. | 'The Opposition in 1880--1, while the / . | matter was yet undetermined, joined their voice ; and votes with those of the bon, gentlemen for .__ the purpose of inducing the 1 tominion Parliament -- to mtif{'tho award. When they refused then he _ said, ** We are at ore with you in m intaining the righ:s of the Province of Ontario to al. its te:. -- | 1t io y, but withous the sanction of the Pominion _| Parliament this award is not valid. _ Let us then cause the matter to he raferred to a tribunal which will be acceptable to ali parties." -- 'Then they charged us with oing baci; on our record, but the hbon. gontgemen apposite _ were ultimately driven to the course they had advised being taken, and the resnlt npow reached might || bave been arrived at much earlier had they taken || that counrse before, Hop. gentiemen bad charged them with taking a position opposed to the interests of the Province at the bidding of the | Province of Quebec. _ While they did u0t desert ' their contention for Provincial rights, they ad=~ vised a sourse which would avoid heart--barning | or discord between the Provinces. Had the | views of hon. gentlemen prevailed, | what | 'would have been the result? The other Fro-- 1 | vinces would have felt that 1t was wrong, and for i } years it would haveembittered the feeling between | them, and no one knew where it would enpnd. J3 these inter=Provincial questions it was of the | utmost importance that we should } ConstDER THE PREJUDIOES Of THE PEOPLE. [ Then the Opposition declared that the award of | i the arbitriatore was not binding. and the result of | of the deliberations of the Privy Council had | been to cunfirm that position. Next taking up [ |\ the Rivers and Streams Bil!, he held that there _never was apoint of constitution«! law in volved | in this, case. That bill was'an interrretation 'offthe | and: humble Address ul qy 2000 .0 CTRRT P @esuicuus to hon. gontiemen for the course they have pur-- sued. (Loud cheers.) At this juncture the speaker asked he indul~ gkonce of the House as he was i}), and stated that he would dafer what further remarks he had to make untii some future time. THE . sRcoxorr, M SacAR, in riging to secor was loudiy applauded. Before speak upon the topics sugzested from the Throne, he deemed it a M=Kiew of the early severance relitions exis i _auX. un .44 aslaiy fTecling®e expressed towards sech. The first speaker had in his ) several statements which were y the records of this Parlizment, the settloment of the Boundary every member on that side of the tm ow o1 pertaining to his po--ition, 1 aiso beg loave to express inson our high sense of the courteous manner in which she re honours of CG@overnment House, have the voice ofi every member say it is Lwit!g sincere regret that 1AIH'S ~BEPLY, | a rising, / sloudly ch.ar-- | heartily cunourre? in U { y the last speaker in . -- / lfeoond the Address, in the interests shourld accept as b:fore any tbe two Gov-- ceedin? to fl;oVSpgm,

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