tion :-- *' Thaiy it time has arrived tinue the annual fuads fo rthe nn» Hon, 0. MOWaAT said made for French, German, 2 dE C TY PV -- M yrppiDRbointment of such offtic Mr, MEREBITH asked if the Hon, neysGGenerai proposed to appoint an | in the Courts where the population German, coUrT INTERPRETER. Hon, O, MOWAT, in answer to Mr. Robil. lard, said vetition« had been received by the Gov. ernmenrt praying for tho appointment of an in. terpreter for tha Courts in the united counties of Prescott and Russel!, competent in both the Engs lish and French languages. H, had also been in corresponderce upon the subject, and had come to the conclusion that proper provisim should be made for the arpointmem of such officer, Mr. MEREDppy _ 90+ 0f such o PROVINCIAL , Mr. DRYDEN mov, 100 EC 20. TOTV WHP ACARHE man. 'Ine paragraph reads as follows :-- "The next day, vera muckle to my surprise, what did I get but a complimentary ticket frae James Laidiaw, Esq., member of Parliament for sooth Weilington, securin' me a seat i' the Ladies Uallery o' the Hoose to seo the opening ceremo: nies. Ididna King, for the exposure o0' the nicht afore obleeged me to bide in the paurlor o' the Walke: Hoose the haill day ; but at nicht, foss, I mude up for it! There was mysel', an* Maister Laidiaw, an' Cornel Clarke--(great laugh-- ter--(the Speakzor 0° the Hoose. as weel as, bein' cor ain member for Centre Wellington}, and there was Maister Ballantyne, the meimber for Pairth, and t waor three mair 0 less consequence. (e-- newed laughter,} Man, bat we had a splore. Of course we didna get fn', Nz, na, we jist enjoyed oorsels to the fu'. Idinna think i ever sany better a° my life than I did that nicht, an' the stories we &' tell't were by ornar divertin'," I desire to give that parigraph a flat denial, (Hear, hear. and laugh er.) No such gathering took place, and I can only say it is untrue and as false as tho baseloss fabric of m vision, (Great laughter. ) An hon, Member--It was nc (Laughter,) Mr. LALIDLAW--Pornaps it Mr, LAIDLAW--Mr. Spsaiter, I desin rise to a question of privilege. 1n The Sc American Journal, a paper published in York City, and largely distributed through country, there appeared an article from a c pondent reflectingy on the member for & Perth, yourself, Mr. Spesaker (laughter), a member for Centre Wellington, an i mysolf 1s written in broad Scotch, and I am sure 1 do justics to it. (Laughter.) 1 do not i who wrote it, bui I regret that any man s} so far forget himseli as to write what is n festly uutrue. . Ms, _ Meredith -- Respecting _ employors' lisbibty to muke compensation for personal injury to workm n in cheitr service. Alr. Baxter--To confirm & -k;y"e-hw of the town of Niagara Fails. 1 M:, Dcydsn--To -- cousolidate the debt of "Yhitby. . _ f & T Li § Mr, McKim--Respecting the old cemetory in Palmerston, THE MUNICIPAL LOAN FUND. The Speakoer took the chair at 8 o'clock,. FIRST READINGS. Mr. Gibs on ,(Hamilton)--to amend the Act to secure wives and children the benetit of life insurance. Mr. Fell--To -- amend _ the Consolidated Municipal Act. _ C ( % TFifth Parliamoeat--Second Ses-- sion. itpose of hola, .. ""f,*f the publi r the purpose of bolding a Provinciat Rx MIHNSNERpmmmmmmiinns s That in LC o mows 2V Wwas f The paragraph reads as follows : (By Our Own Reporters.) "EPO0°C0 an nEVci@ Lrom a corres-- ing on the member for South f, Mr. Speaker (laughter), as the entre Weliingtoo, and mysolf. It road Scotch, and I am sure 1 can & (Laughter.) 1 do not know b\xt'{ regret that any man should Y, vera muckle to my surprise, at a complimentary tGrcket frae 'sq., member of Parliament for , securin' me a seat i' the Ladies® se to sea the opening ceremo-- hok We Sbec esc 1E privilege. lo The Scot@nfl paper published in New EXHIBITTOn, 100 CC AEVUVEY appoint an interproter population was largely 1 provision should be . and Gaelic also Spsaiter, I desira to ) following resoly. of this House the undesirable to con-- _out of the public ue a e c Eus write what is mauni= not a Scotchman, Monday, Feb. 16. the Attor-- an Irish» this grant Lo ue * Coue V the state of pubiue attonded a msetin W ontw orth, whic thl't tha Hints s ym Aanbatrtnbliit OoAristait® Adcstrcs itc iss tk 4 B 100451 be torits presentgood qualities He agreed with the member aiso with respect to the outside attract-- ions, and he thought the day had come when the objects of the exhibition could be divided, and that they should havo an agricultural exhibition pure and simple, consisting of farin products, live stock, and farm machinery, In his opinion the most successful exhibition which the As-- sociation had held in the lass ha'f+dozon years was the one at Kingston--not . fap the regeipts taken, but for tho amount of live stock sold which would have a beneticial efect on the dis« triect----so he would havs the mectings taken to paces which wouid be benefitted in likn maunor, l\slw_locuhuoa got Wasnting the exhibition, thoy lad aiways several applications, and the City of London haq sent a deptmintic i the motton would .\1 's'\': M.l on f;or it. HMe hopad COULD NOT HOLD LARGE EXHIBITION3 thore, and ho was willing that the Provincial wtould be held there every three or four years, To the argument that it must be continued be-- cause it was Provincial in its character, ho ap-- prebended that the exhibitions in different parts of the country were both local and Pro-- vincial, and that the one held in 'Toronto year -- by -- year was quite as Provincial as that held urder the auspices of the Agriculs tural and Arts Association. The Eximbitions at London, HMumilton, Guelph, and other places wore sulficiently Provincial for the purposes re-- quired,. Then it was arzuod that we must have some exhinition which was pursly a farmers' one, because there was a danger of the others degen-- erating into a horse--racing, dog«training cireus. His idea was that if these features were objecs tionable the only way to stop them was to edu« Cate public opinion to frown them down. For his own part he had nevor been at a Pros vincial Exhibition where these features were not present. HMe urged that thore wore other di-- rectiouns in which the monsy might more proft= ably be used, and suggested that it shouid be turned into the direction o the Farmers' Institutes held with so much success this year, _ Then he would suggest that some of the money should be spen in the direc:iioun of printing more reports interesting to farmers, or giving prizes for the best farms, or essays upon farming subjects. THE GENERAL OPINION, Mr, WATERS contended that the Agricuitural and Arts Association had grout difficuity in getting cities to have the Provincial Exhibition. London, aithough taking it this year, did not want it; Ottawa and Kingston imight want it occarion lly, but the fact was that the contres of industry would rather have their own exhibitions. Great good had been : done in past years -- by _ the Proviacial Exhibition, in -- stimulating enterprise, in raising -- and breeding firstsclass stock, and indeed ho was sure that uo other enterprise had done so much in this direction. Mo commonded the views of Mr. lryden to the Government. Mr. GRAHAM thouncst Hhn Dasoinasl ts eP c imb esn esittadiiBistsihidist Ssn 54 B SA cA d + 139 11 P 034 hibidon, though properiy managed, had outlived its usefulness, and that the money could be used to more advantace in othor channels His idea would be to give this amuat to Farmers' Insti« tutes. It would make about 8SG) to each riding, and he woulid make it ubligatory on each riding to grant a like amount, and then they could have good Farmers' Institutes, Mr, CARNEGIE agreed with the member for South Ontario in the stitemoat that the imnstita-- tion shou'd not be continued for the good it had fiv ne in the past, but if it were continuini 1k priak hibition under the direction and management of the Board of Agriculture, and that it is desirable to consider other channels through which the appropriation might be used more to the advans tage of the agricultural interests of the country." In supporting the resolution he said although the Provincial Exhibition had done much good in the past it did not follow that it _ was accom» lishing good results now. When it was stablished there were very few exhibitions in the country, but now the circumstances were all changed, and the exhibition rage had developed to such a degree that every town and hamilet in the country had its annual show. If it was urged that the Provincial Exhibition was main= tained as an educational institution, then he said the others were oducational institucions also. He claimod that in Toronto, Hamilton, and London they were ab.o to give a better exhibition than THE BOARD OF AGRICUCLTURE He was not blaming them, for he believed they had done their best, bu. it was not possible that men coming from all over the country gathoring together in a strange city could undertake to run so successful an -- exhibition as those who were on the spot ail the time, In that case people could _ not _ expect the same order and system, He had piaced the word "aunual" in the resolution, because he believed the only ground on which the Provin-- cial Exhibition was supported now was that it was educational in its character, Of what use was its going to London the prosent year? If the Provincial did not go thers the usual exhibition would bo held anyway. In Eastern Ontario it was not the same, because they hib3 oi latts irigh thina T. 12.3 3 andon had sent a deptriation for it, ¢ mmotrton would not be pressed, Mia GIBSON (H umiiton) wished | ® utotie af sistintn o 17 M 4 & mseuug of the orth, which had co ths time <-- id shouid opimion in his dist onsisiing of farin products, machinery, In his opinion exhibition which the As-- in the lass ha f+dJozon years fston--not ~for the regeipts amount of live stock sold aucd Sat i 3 F it were continued it must the united stovupa i, "_ MV0u societies of ime to the c melusion come wlhen _ the uves -- s FH aject on the dis-- mectings taken to d in likn mauner, -- exhibition, they 4 and the City of d to represent istrict. is had Prowminont ; i -- Mr., BASKERVILLE thournt that Ottaws ' had a very good exhititionu, notwithsetanding the | side shows, and that Oitawa world always be | ready to prepare well for the show when it could i, o there. * R | _Mr. WOOD was quite satislied that a large ; proportion of the farimers of Hastings are in l favour of doing away with the Provincial Exhi» bition, and of opinion that its day of usefuiness | was past. Hoa was satisfied that tho contral : shows had takan its place. i Mr, LATIDLAW wish»d to disabuss the mind | of the HMouse that the Provinci«al Exhibition was '| going begging for a place, for there was still one | place ramdy to receiva it--the groat agricultural | county of Weilington, with Gueslph as its centre. | It was a decided success there in 1883, and he | thought if held there it would be a success | again. Yet he thouzht the feeling of the country | was against the continuance of the show. Provincial Show on condition being supported by the Gove groat mistake, however, to were not 100, 1,000, or 10,00( in favour of the show. -- The remember that they had the miowon shouid be a means of guiding the Gov-- ernment in deciding. Mr, WILMOT was sure that Afr. Phelps was quite mistaken in his view. Ho did not say that they would not be willing to give up the Provinnint K155 ces ceus o ce s 5 1k . VCO Aiuintiaiiaks Aats Sanseiiiisaite cb 4 Mr, PHMELPS was in favour of discontinu-- ing the grant, and he contended that it was tavoured _ only . by -- manu{acturers His c mstituency _ was agains t the _ grant. While _ he did _ not _ say that _ the grantshould be stopped this year, {;t it should be withdrawn in the near futare. e considered that there were not 100 farmers in Ontario in favour of it. Mr. CARNEGIE--Didn't Collingwood sond a deputation asking for the show ? Mr, PHELPS--Yes, but the Oollingwood people had erected buildings for a show,and were well situated for holding an exhibition. He stull thought that there were not ahundred farmers in Ontario in favour of the show. He thought the motion should be a means of guiding the Gov-- ernment in deciding, acriculturists _ like Mr. _ Stock and _ Mr. | Rymal thought that the exhivition had outlived | its usefuiness, and theopinion of the metinz he ; had referred to was that the grant should be | divided up to different soctions of the Province, He thongut the suggestion ma le for the divisin | of the fund among the ridings for the purpose of | holding F rmors' Instituies was a good onse. Tas | Institute bela in Mamiton was a good one, and | the county council had already tiken steps tor | making it permanent, and had seciured leoctusers ; for this purpose, _ M« contended that the expros« | sion of opinmion gencralily was agauinst the grant | being continued. ' M»-- BRODER did not azree with any of the | Mr., MERRICK was quite convinesd that the opinion -- in the 1 ist, _ notwithstanding the view of the member from _ Hasiings, was not in favour of _ aboiishing the grant. For many years the West had benefStted by the exhibition, and it came therefore with bad grace from the members of the West, when they uad exhibitions of their own, to propose the abo-- lition of the grant If the whole of the maney were divided it would only «kive about $10) to each county,and thns would do no good. Lst the exhibition coms East for a few years,and if need be, hold it every two years only, with a grant of $20,000, The exhibition in Kingston was a good one,and it should be continued so as to come there asain. Lot the exhmib tion be held in U :tawa, K.agston, Brockvilia, Peterborough, Cornwall, and other towns. He was entirely against doing away with the grant. He was afrad that the West had benefitted hitherto at the expense of the East, and he called upon the Government to mete out its aid with an equal hand. Mr. ERMATINGE contended that all exhi-- bitions used side shows to draw crowd«, for even the great Toronto Exinbition had degenerated in this matter. HMe thought that the Provincial Exhibnition had done a great deal of good, and the mea who had conducted it were worthy of all praise. -- But still there should be soms other _ way found _ for _ spending the money. There appeared to bo a preponderance of opinion in favour of abolishing the gran , but still there was a wide difference as to how the money should be spenat. _ HMsa advocated the spending of the money in grauts to the county exhitition. Mr. BRODEKR did not agree with any ol ho speakers. __ The Provincial Exhibition was not a hnancial scheims at all, bat rather an educational factor than anything else. He did not agree that the exhibition should be solely agricultural, for he had vet to learn that the {arming community are soimpervious to mfaence or so higuly educated thas they should not liave the opportunity of studying art, or they werse so woak that they would be contaminated with litt:e side shows, _ 1e held that the day of its useful-- ness was nout gone, and it $10,000 would not make it a success, add $10,000 more. _ 1{ tue argument that it was not a financial success wes a good ona, thon they would have to do away with the Ausri-- cultural Farm for she samie reason. 1t was time the matter was set at rost and membare ceased shouting about $10,00%9; the Kast never asked for it to be done away with. _ 'WToronto was always gladto have the exhibition until it could have one of its own, _ aud the _ same -- was trme of London and Hamiiton, The Provinc:al Exhbibition bad educated these places till they could support one of their own, Let the East have a chanee till they conld support their own, ePAE T7 P w'lllu' EAEIES supported by the Government. It was a mistake, however, to suppose that there rot 100, 1,000, or 10,000 farmers who were our oleho ?bow. The W --stern men must the Agricultural Farm of the &u{nuiri§u-;