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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 26 Mar 1885, p. 1

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EBCE CE PCacs Oe $# L'TT is _ Mr, MEKREDITH moved thiwt the said Bill be P@ not now read the third time, bui: be forthwith re-- m ferred back to Committee of tiie Whole House with instructions to provide tha. department:_nl bf regulations or Orders in Council al:tering the basis is fixed by the statute law for the clistribution of *. the legislative grant for High Senools and Col-- is legiate Institutes shall not be operati've until ap« J0 proved of by the House. $. _ Hon,G. W. ROSS--My hon. friemd is most 0 unreasonuable. After we have agreed to submit \ to the House every regulation affecting the Pub= t lic, Separate, High, aud Model Schooi's--every £ regulation sffecting tho internal and external t arrangements, the qualifications of teache rs, and 0 so on--he asks that the financial details of the e High Sghools te submitted,?* 0 _ Mr, MEREDITHMH--No, it is the bawus. 1 _ Hon. G. W. RKOSS--Then that leads to arcer-- taining how much money is appropriated to each High ischooi. 'The other things that will neces-- y sarily follow the submission of this basis, as e culls it, will be that the amount granted to each High School whall be subimitted to the House an«i @ approved before it shall be operative. Let me + tell the hon. centleman how this money is to be e appropriated. First, no less than $400 shall be appropriated to each High Schooi. This is fixed A and iunperative. Second, the remaincer shall e be divided on the basis _ of salary, -- in~ | f ternal and _ external equlg'mcnts, average | f attendance, and efficiency of the school. _ As far i + as these conditlons are concermed I cannotgo outs side otf them, and it is on these conditions that l s the money must be appropriated. It is for our inspectors to report the circumsntances of each s school, and it is on the basis of this that we shall have to say whether No. 1 school shall pay $30, ) or $40, or $50 more toan No. 2 school. He had | beiter appoint a Committee of tha House to sit $ in one of the rooms of the Education De-+ partiment to examine the reports of tise inspectors and see if the calculations based on those reports are caried out rightly. I am astounded at the atiack on responsible yovernment invoived in the amendment of my hon. friend. We are not charged with having misappropriated the High School grant; there have been no complaints in | the past as to the way in which we have dealt with ' this fund. He conciuded by showing that the basis upon which the grant was to be divided waes ] fixed by the Act. I Mr. CREIGHTON said no one asked that the specific grants should be wpproved of by the House He contended that the whole Bill could be completety altered by the regulations of the Department, Mr. Gibson (Huron) and Mr. Gibson (Ham-- ilton) were in favour of the Bill. Hon. C. F. FRASER su«gested that if Mr. Meredith were on the Ceovernment sida of the e oo Hnuse he would be the first to insist that res» | o Y TA Tt C ponsible Ministers, representing the country | ISLATURE through the members, should be allowed the | discretion indicated by the [Bill. _ The Opposi-- \ tion pretended to be in favonr of a Superintend-- | wunn mm mmmsommeeo wammmem ent of Education who was not respousible to the | £ House and whose regulations wero not submitted iFlfth Parliament--Second Sos-- to the House, and yet they were unwilling | R to trust the Minister of Education for nine | | s1on. montlhs to interpret the regulations and wisely | | carry them out. | | Hon. O,. MOWAT pointed out that if Mr. | | (By Our Own Reporters.) Meredith were simcere in his contention that he . 20. had only umade the motion because he was afraid | Thureday, March 2 that the Minister would have power to com-- | "Phe Speaker took the chair at 11 4.m,. vletely f:hauge the hlsis.upon which 'the grsnts(t.l(i» ' | o IGES AXND ELECTIONS. High Schools were divided, he would call | | PRIVILEGES A) a q attention to the Bill which stated distinctly that Mr, HARCOURT presented 'h? COd SNo/ the High Sohool grant imust be divided upon the Ifinal report of the Committee on I "'"m"?' and principle contained in the Biil. Ho also showed that Electious respecting the East Simcos election [ ,; . Bill referring to the Educetion Depart-- fc;"-.,. b ment, the Minister could only make regulations Mr. .\Il'll't.ril)!'l'}{x asked that tiledf:{l)":: 0: within the restrictions imposed by tiled Hifgh lowed to stand. 'The chairman ba C Schoo ct. T ontendea for ':vlf:.)l:'fhle ;;us.xn'e":: so pn')m}»tiv at the meeting "" 2';&:;:\1& bnrotrgf:o:'l(?z\';,(\)':;l'"::uabej:d:e that the the Cominittee this morning that scarcely *23 Minister of Education could change the basis in of his friends | had _ an opportunity | Of }p2 . . ). auggested. Ho hoped that the amena-- being present. _ He objected to the report bt.% ment would. be withdrawn. cause its evident object was to let Mr. Drury ""/./_ question wa« thon put on the ammendment, " down easy." which was lost by 41 nays to 28 yeas, | Hon. C. F. FRASER said it seomed as 1t the Following is the division list :-- {hon. gentieman w"'"ldjl"m'S(ntl,m'!\llll:-ni')x'~lkl1r;howr!(:; YEA9~----Moss. Busl;elrnll!'. Brereton, Br}(vlcx', n chat cgould be used against Mr. U * 'arnegie, Clauecy, Clarke (1oronto), Creighton, 'llxz:stutclt:s\ftl the fraukest manuner throughout the Scnm'\;". I:lrnmtmg'c:'. French, Humm:'ll. Hess, | whole of the proceedings. So far as the »1'81)01'5' Hudson. Kerns, Karr, ,\_ic(:L'nman. McGhee, Mc-- |\ was concerned, there was not a single friend of Kay, Meredith, Merrick, Morgan, Mulhoiland, i:.hx::l?on 'g«n \leman presont when it was con-- {)wnflf.'f\'{ \\"{:()k;ll%'r%d' Ross (Cornwail, White, 4 « + Lo 3 s s n eet-- i a --28. F jsxdcred.' 1 hi"ll,w' (;fetx?)t.mrg':r? ::,;:?n;"t:::k:x;nnot Nays--Meserq. Awrey, Bmi:;:emw, Balfour, | :)lllm' (t.)x'nv-h:l;; q:;:tes'ud th::t. there were any of the llfi'.'iluur'rq:":én""?'Leerrr'ixm;'?:gér "F?lfi;:::)'mf.u:(;'?lgc(::; | ?iwn. ge'nx,loxnan who wished to be present. ;" .}{m'uilu{m.(}ibsouc}lurom. Gtllies,Gould,Grahatm, ; 'they had done . wno he would have been glad to Hagar, Harcourt, Hardy, Hart, 'pundlaw. Lees, | have made a pos t pouement in ordor to give them Macji{--mzic . _ MeKim. -- McLaughlin, '"C"alm;o"' | | tunity of being present. The Cormmuit~ Master, Morin, Mowat. Neelon, OC on.m'-r. lur_._ ee, | lecs ':ipi};"\rv:llt:'till half--past ten, but in view of the Ruytslde."!lt(;s;;fl113\:11';)'221![1{:::331(Mnd(hebex), Sills, | ce & «e C uce s ; I's, ao elq, ----41, ] :nm-nmp session opeuing at aleven, it was impos-- Wauters 'I'A(i\ oN DoGgs. | wible to wmt' L:"Fer' ' ST. PHOMAS Hon. A. M. ROSS moved the third reading of | ¥k Ll],El\t-)l]:l;{. ;xxo\'mi Atlin.n. the order the Bil! to amend the :\;g:t tof il}]:pose ';1' t:\: on 'forl\{;'..ntl;'l'{;;:{,t"';i"; 0; hie Bill ts 'comsolidare g:f:;::il.d for the protectien of sheep, which was | the floating debt of the city of St. 'l'})()'::{:;er:;' MUNICIPAL LOAX FUND. bwey povne Pridibin "",',"f'j,'l'fj'e'éi 5f 2dores . seniain... Un the mbuon of Hon, A. Bd ROSS the Bill | in Committee with h he refgrred the other day. respecting the amounts past due am'l payable by "P?ndmem' t.u' wnln. o & division certain municipalities upon the settiement made 'l he motion was lost 051 ie thifd (ime by statute of their debts to the Municipal Loan |_ Whe Bill was then rea + P Fund, was refer:ed back to Committee of the | HIGH SCHOOL GRANTsS. k f\'thle and amended. | Hon. (4. W. ROSS moved the third rgadn&ts'?h BISHOP OF ALGOMA. | | the !5|'ll\m amend and convolidate Atno & Mr. EDILL Cmoaved 'the tinmd reading . of | & A ote s + ; School Acts. p |--

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