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8i t Hon. 0. MOWAT--Then the hon. gentle-- man has succeeded in finding three cases in all, in which the Mackenzie Government granted timber limits in this disimted terri-- tory. How many licenses and limits does the hon. gentleman think have been %iveu by the present Dominion Government since the | award? Nearly two hundred (apc{)lause), while the licenses and limits granted by the Mac-- kenzie Government covered 200 square miles. Licenses and permits granted by the present Government have an area of 5,000 square |miles. (Applause.) These are licenses and permits which limit the area to which they apply. But they have also ;fra.nted a large number of permits, which do _ not limit the _ area, _ and which _ allow them to cut wherever they _ choose on _ territory _ not otherwise occupied. Now with reference to some permits granted by the Commissioner of Crown Lands in that period. These permits were OF A DIFFERENT KIND altogether. There are permits granted merel{ to enable mill ownerstocut for striet-- !Iyloca purposes,and arealtogethertemporary. hey do not give a right to renew from {ear to year, and do not give the right to use any wood cut for other than strictly local purposes. Thelicenses of the Dominion Government were not intended for local pur-- poses but for speculation. (Applause.) I was glad to listen to the loyal words in said on this subject, One cannot express too strongly in words his sense of the con-- duct of our men on this occasion ; and I just take this opportunity of thanking them for their bravery and for the success which they have accomplished. _ I re-- joice _ that __we are the countrymen of _ these Volunteers, and that the soldierly qualities that belong to the different _ races from which we have sprung have not been wanting in their de-- scendants, and 'that if the time should come when our soil needs defenders, we will al-- ways have them in our sons. (Applause.) He proposes to extend words of appreciation to the Volunteers of other Provinces. Ihave not the slightest objection to that. We have alluded only to Ontario, because we are deal-- ing only with Ontario affairs, But I quite agree that reference to the bra.verg of our Ontario Volunteers. T agree with all that has been which have been demonstrated in our men, have been equally shining on those from the other Provinces. Me said something about the boundary, and stated that the fault of not going to the Privy Council at an earlier period must -- fall upon the _ Local Government. let _ me recall to the recollection of the hon.gentleman that the Dominion Government had an opportu-- nity of going to the Paivy Council at the same time as Manitoba ; that the matter procceded so far that they even passed an Order in Council declaring that the appeal should apply to the Dominion portion otpt he case ; but we could not get them to go any further, and the case was settled as between this Province and Manitoba. But no urg-- ing of ours, no representations _ of ours, could induce the Dominion Government to move one step in further ; and a('cordinglf' all that went to the Privy Council was the question of the western boundaney. / _ _ had been granted during the lperiod of the Mackenzie Government. _ Will the hon. gen-- tleman mention how marfi* were qranteg('; Mr. MEREDITH--I will mention a very well--known one -- that -- of McAuley's. There were three cases in -- which : he Mackenzie Government granted timbe: icenses. _ Mr. MEREDITH--Have they ever di k P A * ted the judgment as referrir . oo Boundary case? | _ __ 18 to~the Arhole _ Hon. 0. MOW AT--No. Shortly after that I prepared a Bill for the purpose of being tage of the assistance of the Ogrosition He asks, Will we repudiate the obligations en-- tered into with the Indians? We cannot re-- pudiate them,. --How can we repudiate these obligations ? It is an affair which rests with the Dominion Government. Are they going to repudiate them, and does he call on us to prevent them? I will leave the matter with the Dominion Government, and my hon. friend. My hon. friend alleges, and per-- haps fancies, that he has taken tf:e side of Ontario in these matters of dispute. But he has always taken such grouud as to help Ontario's opposers, He said that a number of nave to fight it out then, both in the courts and the country, without the advan-- his assistance in the courts. Ican go into the courts myself. Mr. MERE%ITH--I made no such state-- ment, Hon O. MOWAT--Then he Wn't as-- sist me even in the courts. e shall fRavo to HAFHE it ant 'than hnth in\ tha his assistance in the courts. I do not want THE SAME SOLDIERLY QCALITIES THESE TIMBER LICENSES One cannot 'e-Xpre'sn NECESSITY FOR IMPERIAL LEGISLATION, During the last session of the Dominion Par-- liament questions were asked, but no answers were given until it was solate in the session that nothing could be done in the matter, What was the answer given ; wore they willing now to go into this northern boundary. No: Sir John said that thie western bouudary wasnow regarded as practically set-- tled, and that he meant to negotiate with Manitoba and Quebec as to the northern boundary. _ The Ontario Government has done its whole duty in this matter. We cannot go to the Legislaturesof Manitobaand Puelzec'aud pass Acts. _ We have passed the passed by the Imperial Parliament. The Becretary _for the Colonies sent to the Dominion Government copies of the decision, aad asked whether it was their desire to })rumole the legislation which had been declared expedi@nt and highly desirable by the judgmentof the Privy Council. That was 18 months ago. 'I'wo despatches have been sent for the purpose of urging the L E ie ... Peininests t it es 4 + ts iA legislation needed. _ We can of ourselves do no more, . After expressing his gratification at the large and increasing measure of con-- fidence reposed in the Government by the people of Ontario, the hon. gentleman re-- sumed his seat amid applause. -- The Attorney General--On Mondag next-- Select Committee to strike the tanding Committees ordered by this House. ) Mr. MORRIS moved the adjournment of the debate. i The House adjourned at six p.m. till Mon-- ay. s * Mr. Waters--Bill to enable widows and un married women to vote for members of the Legislative Assembly. Mr. Carnegie--Order of the House for a re-- turn of a co%v of the petition of William Hurdman & Bros., of the 4thof August, 1873, addressed to the Commissioner of Crown Lands for the Province of Ontario, pm{ing. aulonf other things, that a license might be issued to them as theassignees of one Richard McConnell for the vacant space between the licenses granted_ on the Amable du Fond branch of the Petewawa, and of all cor-- respondence to or from the Commissioner of Crown Lands or any officer of the Crown Lands Department relating thereto ; of all reports made and of all Orders in Council passed with reference thereto ; of all assign-- ments of the claims set up in the petition and of all licenses issued in recognition of such claim, to whom issued, the area covered, and the amount paid (if any) on account of ground rent accruing previous to the first issue of such licenses ; and the amount (if any) ai-- lowed to Messrs. Hurdman Bros. or their assignee as compensation or in rebate of the double dues charged them for cutting timber thereon without proper authority. _ A The Attorney--General--Also Select Com-- mittee to assist Mr. Speaker in the charge of the library. Mr. Waters--On Tuesday next--Bill "to amend the Municipal Act. Mr. Creighton--On Monday next--For a ref tur» of all correspondence, subsequent to that already brought down, between the Govern-- ment of Ontario orany member or officer thereof and the authorities of the Dominion of Canada or of the Province of Quebec, re-- slpecting the settlement of accounts between the Prowinces and the Dominion. Also, statement made up to date of 1st Janu-- ary, 1886, of the amount which the respective munici{mllt'ics interested should receive as in-- terest from the Land lmprovement Fund in connection with school lands. Mr. Gibson (Hamilton)--On Monday next-- Bill to amend the revised statute respecting master and servant. Also, Bill to amend the Assessment Act. NOTICES OF MOTION.