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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 1 Feb 1886, p. 5

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PREVENTED THE EXPRESSION of a desire for merey by upholding an ele-- ment which should never have been intro-- duced. _ (Loud cheers.) Mr, BALFOUR, referring to the Boundary Award, said that last session the Dominion Government had presented to the House only a small portion of the papers on the Boundary case, Siz John hai shown no anxicty to deal with the question. The mem-- ber for North Essex, when he complained of THAT MERCY SHOULD BESHOWN, as any authoritative body might do, either within, or I might say without,the Dominion. I can see by the smile that beams on the faces of some of my friends opposite that they think they are going to gain some party advantage by bringing into what appears to be a recommendation otf mercy, somthing which may be made use of elsewhere, in ordar to show that we had pronounced uPon certain other matters. But 1 su{ that when we, as a deliberative bod])', will be called upon to pronounce as to the justice or in-- justice of what may have occurred in the execution of the law, it is perfectly plain, that before we can come to any decision-- supposing it is a reasonable thing to discuss the question at all--we must have of merey from this House. -- But he must not, under that guise, endeavour to serve a Party purpose or a party end. So far as anm concerned, I shall have no hestitation, if this amendment is pressed, in voting against it. Bocause I say that if you underiake .to decide bere upon a matter not tried in our Courts, having no connection with our laws--if you undertak» to say here that a particular course taken by the authorities at Ottawa has been just and proper, with reference to a thing that does not concern us at all as a Province--you would always have the right to review the action taken at Ottawain reference to thead-- ministration of justice. On grounds of reason, on the grounds of what is expedient and proper, with every wish to see the House Join in a recommendation to merey, I have no hesitation whatever in tellin my hon. friend that if he . will not witfidmw' his amendment 1 will put upon him the responsi-- bility of having A FAIR ANSWER to say that this House would be taking upon itself to deal with matters with which it ought not to deal,. The less that we under-- take of matters purely and wholli' of a Do-- minion character, the {)et-ter it will be for all of us. (Hear, hear.) Wo could of course make a recommendation Supposing now that we were called upon to flronounce upon & Ipropositlou that the law ad not been justly carried out. The fair answer to that proposition would be : we have nothing to do with that here. We have nothing to do with the question whether or not the Executive at Ottawa has or has not done right in a matter affecting the administration of justice. In a matter outside of this Province, in a matter having nothing to do with the administration of jus-- tice in our Province, I think it would be ALL THE FAQTS BEFORE US, Before we can say I am not going to shirk the point, before we can be called upon to pronounce whether the execution of the chief | rebel was just, we should bave, for instance, | the report of the Medical Commission ; be-- cause it is admitted that if the result of the Medical Commission was that he was found to be insane, it would not have been right to carry out such an act at all. I make these suggestions knuwiuf nothing of the facts at all. But these are all good reasons why this Legislature should not, FOR A PARTY PURPOSE, intervens and interfere in a _ matter which is to be discussed and dealt with elsewhere, and which is out-- side ot our proper torum. (Applause.) Our recommendation to merey may amount to something, but our pronouncing upon these other matters will amount to nothing at all. And therefore I say that the hon. gontleman who has moved this amendment is not acting fairly in the interests of those for whom he professes to want merey. If he wants merey and clemency to be extended to these prisoners; if he wishes for peace and good order, and all that may follow from a lenient carrying out of ti;e la w; if he wants this %{ouse to _ make an unanimous recommendation to mercy, he is not taking the right course. (Applause.) He is subverting that &mrpose to serve some party end. (Cheers.) I do not su pose there is a man in this House, whatever fns politics or religion, who would not willingly join him in a recommendation for imercy,. flut when one who to those in prison attempts to introduce into his action something which may make it needssary for the House to reject it, then he has destroyed the object _ which ha -- professes _ to _ have / at heart. (Cheers.) He can get a recommendation PROFESSES TO BE A FRIEND VY RFCERCE 22e Emm C ECY uid o+ > ind m wH C good _' in -- the future. In the county of Essex the _ interests _ of _ farmers had suffered very severely from the swine pest, and he hoped that the Minister of Agri-- culture would take measures for the eradi-- cation of such diseases. He had hoped to sos in the Speech a reference to the (IJ'niver- sity question,and in this connection he wish-- ed to state that he believed Upper Canada College should be abolished. He was glad to observe that the confidence of the peopla in the Government had. been so signa{)ly \ marked since the general election. Imme, diately after that election the Government had a ma'orit,{ of 12 ; to--day they had a ma-- jority of 1)9 n West Middlesox we had a change of 200 vyotes in favour of the Government. Mr. Dowling's _ majority of 100 _ was increased to 700. _ Mr, Lyons' majoriiy of 138 was increased to 1,000. West Algoma, which formerly gave a Conservative majority, returned a Re former. In East Kent the Reform candidate was elected by acclamation. The Govern-- ment need not care for the unfair criticism of the Opposition, so long as they had such proofs of the increasing contidence of the people--(applause)--and to retain that confidence the Government bad only to act | as they had acted for the past fourteen years. (Cheers,) @i lne catltie export of the Dominion was flg:m Ontario. biscussing the question of the NEW PARLIAMENT BUILDINGS, he said that when it was found that $500,009 would not answer the purpose last session an additional $250,000 was voted. He was not in a position to say that $750,000 is enough. But it was the opinion of his constituents that if that is not sufficient that the plans should be brought down to that figure. No doubt the Government could succeed in do-- ing that. The willingness and alacrity with which the Volunteers went to the North-- west -- to quell the _ late rebellion made manifest the conviction of the people of Canada, that whatever the grievance might be they must and could be remedied by t'OlISli(AUtiOllal means. -- Tha mannar in JURISDICTION OF THER PROVINCEs. They had no more right to spend money on them than on postoftices or custom houses, or wharves or canals. He tmusted no pro-- position for aid would come before the House; if it did, he should vote agair it, As to the Boundary Award, he ib .4 that if Sir John Macdonald had ratifed it there would have been no trouble about it. The Ontario Government had no intention of depriving Indians of their just rights. The question was one of resistance to gxe claims of the Dominion. Me did not approve of the proposal for a Provincial audit for the ac-- counts of municipalities. Me thought the Government should prepare and publish & statement of the exports of Ontario, as the Dominion trade and navigation returns were misleading. The report for 1883 made it appear that only a smal?oportion of the cattle export of the Dominion was And this House now hopefully trusts that peace and tranquillity huvin,f been t'ull{ restored i may be found consistent with the public interests to extend the merciful consideration of the Crown to those who are now undergoing imprisonment for lqlfencas connected with or arising out of the rebel-- ion. If the hon. gentleman is willing to further the purpose which he says he desires, there wili be no trouble in gaining the unanimous cousent of the House to such a motion as I have suggested. 'Mquut. he drags into this arena all those questions of the North--west trouble--all that followed and all that pre-- ceded the rebellion--and I do hope that he will see that this is a discussion which this Houss should not procced with, and which it must proceed with if this mo-- tion be pressed. Mr. WHITE----I cannot accept this amend: ment. _ If my hou. friend does not approve of my imotion he will yvote against it. Mon. C. F. PRASZE@--Very well. Mr. WATERSsdealt at somelength with the question of the taking over of the Provincial Railways by the Dominion. He pointed out that the Provinces had expended large sums on these railways and had incurred liabilities which were not yet paid. Matters being in this position he believed the Province had no right to spend another dollar in granting aid to railways. They were things which no longer came under the which had done much good in the past, and would, he expected, _do still more ol _ _UHC . UWNMQ EVE d lat 4 hi tid i Indians, must surely have forgzotten that those phrases origli'nated with the First Min-- ister at Ottawa. The Minister of Agricul-- ture was much to be congratulated on the establishment of f . AN AMENDMEXNT SUGGESTED. Hon. C. F. FRASER--I have to suggest to the hon. geutleman that he withdraw his mo-- tion and allow the following motion to be passed :-- f on FARMERY INSTITUTES, 'EZE'. ;' such ; as ||* Slaf' hi m k," being apqlied _ to ',F!le conviction of the people whatever the grievance t and could be remedied means. 'The manner in manner in

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