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thgs The jury were in a farbetter position to judge than the House, as the former had all the evidence . before them._ Me referred to the course taken by the Minister of Justice in furnishing a political iustification of the Government's course before the meet-- ing of Parliament. _ As to the ca.uses' which led to the rising, the Con-- servative newspapers were furnishing the country with evidence that the Indians had been treated most shamefully----they had been cheated, wronged, and ill--used. He contend-- ed that they wore not called uron either to palliate or condemn the conduct of the Do-- minion Government until all the evidence was before them. He thought the people were entitled to knowledge of the circum-- stances which induced the Government to disregard the recommendation to mercy. While he had no desire to sympathize with rebellion, still they must know whether the people were so goaded as to induce theim to go into rebellion. The country must know whether the people had been Protect- ed. gnuarded, and their grievances listened to by the men who were paid to look after Sht Laonkte: 8. " L 1t s Ausiana! mt Mr. ROBILLARD contended that the ery against the Dominion Government's course in the Riel matter was only from professional politicians and demagogues. He stated that at tirst he had been in sympathy with Riel, but he had changed his ofininn. He recount-- ed the hardships of the Halfbreeds, and still contended that they had been magnified. Mr. Robillard took the iteoms in the Speech scriatim, and favoured the House with his views on each. _ He said the ques-- tion of the amendment to the amendment would not be settled here, but at the polls at the general election,. _ _ & Dr, McMAMHMON said that the amendment introduced by the member for North Essex appeared to have been moved with the sole PURPOSE OF CATCHING yoTES. (Cheers.) But he believed the electors of On-- tario would pay little or no attention to the question of how any man vyoted upon the amendment,. _ The great difficulty was that it involved a discussion of the whole of the troubles in the North--west. He had hoped that this, a purely Dominion question, would | not have been raised in this House; and it was questionable whether it was wise or ju-- dicious to discuss it here at all. (Hear, hear.) But as it had been dragged in by the mem-- bers of the Opposition it must be met fairly and squarely. Me had been very much sur-- prised at the remark made by the member for Russell, when he spoke of his friends in Quebec as having been deluded in this mat-- ter in the manner in which they had acted after the execution of the unfortunate Louis Riel. That was a Llluest.ion which he could not pretend to discuss. He -- believed that a.ccordlnf to the laws of _ the North . west he _ was tried _ legally. But the question naturally arose, and there was a great difference of opinion upon it, whether, after being tried and condemuned as he was, he should have suffered the ex-- treme penalty of the law. _ He was not going to say whether or not he should have suffer-- ed it. One of the great questions raised by Riel's compatriots was that of his sanity. The »eople of Quebec, and he believed a largenum-- {)o.-r of the people of Ontario, were not at all satisfied in regard to that point. In hisopin-- ion he did not receive fair play in regard to that Commission. That Commission had not reported so far as he knew, At . all events. they did not report at the time in such a man-- nor that the public conld judza whether ho was insans or not. 'The question whether ha wasguiltyornot gailty had beon dscided by the Courts. 'Buthe was not ready to agree with the remark made by the hon. member for Russell when he insinuated that that unfor-- tuuate man pursued the course he did FoRr PURPOsSES OF GAINX or lucre. All that he did from the com-- mencement to the termination of that un-- fortunate rebellion precluded that idea. it was true he had asked for $35,000, but for what purpose? His intention, if his own statement was to be believed, was to go over to the other side to eunlist the sym ménles of his compatriots and then cun:%u-.r ('lc North-- west Territories. It was to be remeimbered that he came to Manitoba at the request of the ;Halfbreeds themselves--at the request of those whom hon. gentliemen opposite were asking to have released--they were asking the House to approve of the exeeution of Riel, and at the same time they were asking that mercy should be extended to the very men at whose call he cam» into the country, He regarded the amondment as a mere poli-- tical trick devised with the idea--delusive as he -- believed--of _ 'cf}tclgix}g votes, and he thought against it. T a w ud _ Mr, MORRIS reviewed the cireamstances of the rebellion, and contended that Riel had had a fair trial Moe repelled the idea that ho would be doing right in voting THE NEED OF MERCY Mr. YOUNG--I cannot compliment the hon. memiber for Essex on the amendment he has proposed. It appeared to me to be a very weak little bit of party stratagem, and as improper as weak,. (Applause.) The weakness is due to the fact that, though its professed object is to secure an amnesty for the Halfbreeds, we all know pur?.f *"ly well that when an offer was mak»a from this side of the House to gve _ a unanimous _ vote in _ favour of this proposition, _ he _ declined _ to _ accept it. This is proof that his object is not to secure so much an amnesty as a miserable party advantage. ____ _ ho un t a > for the loss of life und destruction ofv:)';op'e;t; by the North--west reocllion. the Dominion Government were responsible _ Hon. C. . FRASER--An amnesty for Sir John Macdonald. (Applause.) _ _ _ _ Mr. YOUNG--So far as the object ol the amondment is to secure an ammesty there is not any opposition to it. I bslieve there is practically no diffterence of opinion turough-- out the country in favourftof clemency being shown the l{a{tbx's!eds. Tndeed, I think it was the leading Liberal journal which first suligested that an ammesty should be given, and I am personally in favour of it, because the facts show that generalily they have been MORE SINNED AGAINST TAAN SINNING. | I suppose the whole country understands the | little device of the hon. gentleman, by which he thought to place us before the country as having voted against an ammesty, but he ap-- pears to be unaware of the fact that the Liberal party in this House will have an immedi-- ate opportunity of putting themselives right. He was surprised to find Mr. Morris taking up three--quarters of an hour in urging an | indictment in this House against Rir.fi. The hon. gentleman had been wasting his time. No person on the Government side of the House had undertaken to defend Riel. If he had needed any proof that the amendment to the amendment was propared when such matters were prepared~in Ottawa--it was the warmth which the leader of the Opposi-- tion had manifested in dealing with it. He' reverted to the former rebellion, and asserted that if the Dominion Premier had done his duty then there would have been no second rebellion. It being six o'clock, the Speaker left the chair. AFTER RECESS. _ Mr. YOUNG, continuing, said that when Sir John Macdonald, after the former rebei-- lion, held communication with Riel and gave \ him money to live in the United States he | directly encouraged him to come over and try the same thing on again. _ The leader of the Opposition said that the Halfbreeds had no | \i'uut. cause for complaint. _ He (Mr. Young) new that the laund policy of the Government l had created universal dissatisfaction in that country, and many Qf the inhabitants had | gone to Dakeota. |__--).__ _ . .. tair "Ullb EV LPBETRNUECT Mr. CREILGGILTON--Where the regulations | are not so lMiberal, | Mr. YOUNG said he thought the settlers | were the best judges of that, and they would hardly have sold out and left for | the United States if they had not had some! substantial grievance. -- In Dakota there was<4 a tract 200 miles long and 100 miles broad settled almost entirely by Canadians, most of whom had left the Canadian North west by reason of the land regulations. While in Manitoba and the North--west he had heard numerous complaints _ about the land | regulations, _ and | the loudest _ denun-- ciations of the Government came from CRERUEUNNT WC 4204 ob 44 on in men who had been staunch Conservatives. But for the deafness of the Dominion Govern-- ment to all warnings we should have been saved all the lass of blood and treasure which took Ylave in the North--west. There was | little doubt that ome of the colonization coin-- | panies created by the Governiment wWAs the spark which kindled the rebellion. The Mail had admitted that the Halfbreeds had griev-- ances. -- "This was the way," said The Mail, " in which the officials treated the just de-- mands of the Metis," and we agree with Mr. Blake that tlwirncglifiamze was gross and inexcusable, and countributed to bring about tne insurrection..... Had they had votes like white men, or if, like the Indians, they had \been numerous enough to command respect and overawe red tape, without doubt the wheels of oftice would have _ revolyved for them ; but being only Halfbreeds the were put off with an eternal promise, unti{ natience ceased to be a virtue. We repsat wwain, that the departmental system under shich such callous and cruel neglect of a por-- tion of the community was possible, was wrong and should be censured," But in order to prove that the HALFBREEDS HAD GRIEVANCES, * it was not necessary to look beyond the ac-- tion of the Government iwself in apoointing a commission to settle the c'laims of che Haif-- breeds--a commission wh ~a had settled be-- tween 1,800 and 2,000 claims. It was not surprising that the Halfbreeds, fearing evie--