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Mr, YOUNG--How much did that railway eost Ontario ? Mr, CREIGHTON--*Ontario's portion of the cost was no more than the proportion paid by Manitoba., After referrlnt; to the increase of expenditure and the surplus, Mr. Creigh-- ton asked whither were we drifting ; The Government _ bad _ been _ telling _ the people that they had millions of a sur-- plus, Last year the Treasurer had proposed that thef' shouid make a raid upon the Do-- minion Treasury, and that every ten years the Dominion Treasurer should increase the that they had a large amount in haud. The hon. gentleman who had charge of the Department now, borrowed money to pay current expenses in order to keep the sur-- plus where it was. _ HMe had been selling an-- nuities to raise money to keep the surplus where it was, and to meet the amount re-- quired for the railway payments. The fioaltion of the Treasurer was that of a man who borrow-- ed sufticient money topay his present indebted-- ness and leave a surplus and then told his friends that he was out of debt and had a surplus. Another mode was whenever they were short of funds to call a timber sale and sell the property of the Province. This year they called a timber sale and realized 3\1515.- 000. The Government and their newspapers were ta.kingi credit for the good prices they had realized on this sale, 'The good price realized was owing to the Canadian Pacific Railway, the construction of which hon. gentlemen opposite had opposed. They were thus reaping a profit from an expenditure by the Dominion Government for a purpose which would not have been made if their friends had been in poweyr. _ _ STATEMENT _ AS TO HIS SURPLUS. The Treasurer's manner of bookkeeping was to take as an asset all future payments for drainage assessment, at their present assess.nent. -- The Government was expend-- ing the people's money without the know-- ledge of the people, i'{e wanted to know how the A)uuple's money could be paid away by an Order in Council, without the consent of the people. Those Orders in Council should be presented to the House. They had not only postponed the payment of drainage assessmenrts in some cases, but they had wiped them out, and forgiven the debts. HMe was not going into the merits of the cases. He did not understand them, Hon. A, S. HARDY --Hear, hear. Mr, CREIGHTON, continuing, said the gentlemen opposite were very careful to put the s\'s'rplllxsc.'s" !:ct'ore the people, and state that kh Fraseh on' Hiussmess" ce ccs w c dil Eid e & suve _ ) 10 ~2Z 240080 Hatt voted for another pur-- pose. He was glad to see that the Govern-- ment, although'fat(- in the day, had decided to have an independent Audit of public ac-- counts, He hoped that in the future the Supply Bill would be a transcript of the estimates, so that the Government could not under cover of the more general terms used in the Supply Bill, expend for one purpose money voted for another purpose, It being six o'clock the Speaker left the chair. After recese Mr. CREIGHMTON continued. He called attention to the steady and rapid increase of the expenditure of the Province. _ This year there was an apparent decrease, but this was fully accouuteffor by the Government not gx'oceediug with certain Government works. ut the current expenses of the Province steadily increased, and according to the estimates, the increase was going to con-- tinue. Me was not going again to expose the fallacy of the Treasurer's T EHTTTTT C s CBAERUNELD UE surveying than the Ontario Government, The feeling of the Province appeared to be in favour of high license, but he «.;i?d not think people wuxfi(l approve of the action of the Government in grasping the whole amount of the surplus revenue. The treasur: er had attributed the increased cost of ad-- ministration of justice to depression, and to the fact of the 'completion of the C. P.R. The Inspector reported a decrease in the nuinber of persons committed to common gaols. (Opposition applause). The amount of expenditure over estimates would have been _ much larger this -- year only that -- the Government _ had not _gone on with a number of public works. He al-- leged that the Government was in the habit of covering up over--expenditures on ordi-- nary items bf & vote for " unforseen and un-- provided." The Government was also in the habit of using balances of certain appropria-- tions to pay ffir deficiencies on other appro-- priations, that is, they used for one purpose what the House had 'voted for another pur-- D LR GOT OC MTPC CHOTIE, Mr. CREIGHTON contended that therewas blame somewhere for the long delayed set-- tlement of the disputed accounts between Quebec and Ontario, and hon. gentlemen op-- posite must _ not _ escape _ blameless. The 'Treasurer had compared the cost of _ collection _ of _ amounts due _ for lands by the Ontario Government and the Dominion Government, but this was unfair because the Dominion Govern-- ment did a much larger amount of qoe prew e ns o c s Es & wl Will therefore conclude by moving that you do now leave the chair. sSUPPRE3SSION OF THR LIQUOR TRAFFIC. In 1883 Chicago had adopted this plan. The result was a «decrease in the sale of liquor, and a large increase in the revenue from this source. Nebraska had adopted the same course, In New York there was, | at the present time, he believed, a Bill before | the Legislature, providing for high lYicense. He was pleased the Government had adopted this plan, for he had no doubt the double purpose--that of suppressing the liquor traf-- | tic to a certain ecxtent, and for the purpose of revenite. .. Almost every crime in this and every country, could be almost directly traced to the liquor traffic. 'The hon. gentleman said therehad been an extravagant expendi-- ture in regard totheadministration of justice, . The expenditure for administration of justice | bad always increased with bad times. In | 1877 the cost for this purpose was $277.302 ; | 1878 (the worst year of the'de&)ression) $295,-- ; 355 ; 1879, $274,013 ; 1880, $265,070 ; 1881, $251,. ! 119 ;1882, $262,731 ; 18933, $275,214 : 1834, $331,2 , 026 ; 1885, 354,923. This expenditure was one ; of all others that was not within the juris-- " diction of the Government. It was paid out to the municipalities in connection with the administration of justice. The administration of criminal justice, the largest item of increase, was $16,957. 'This was a sum of money that the Government must pay when the reports were sent in to be paid. Some of theseitem's were as follows :--Rainy River, $1,055; Nipissing, $1.070 : Parry sound, $3990 ; Muskoka, $801. . One item was for a matter, the secret in connsection with which some of the gentiemen opposite knew something about. 'This item was $4,335 for expenses in. connection with the Bribery Case, No doubt some of the gentlemen oppo-- site would rise after him and explain this mat-- ter, In referonce to thestatement made by the last s'i)eaker that money from an under-- expenditure should not be applied to some other purpose, Dr. McLaughlin said, for ex-- | ample, in connection with >\ the Central i Prison was an item for a certain purpose of $287 02. There was another item of $150 for f soap. If there was an over--supp'y in the t lirst item -- and _ an _ over--expenditure s in the latter, the gentlemen opposite would say that the difference should not be taken to provide soap to _ keep | the peoFle they sent to the Central Prison clean. (Laughter.) This was absurd. The scheme announced by the hon. member tor North Grey could not be introduced by him if he was Treasurer. 'The Sandfield Macdon-- ald Government inade their estimates so l:u'{ze that they were not estimates at all. When the Sandifield Macdonald Government passed their estimates they knew they were over estimates. _ On the 11th December, 1869 Hon. E. B. Wood said to the House that he thought the estimates would be more than enough to _ make _ a surplus for the year of $F45,000. If this Go-- vernment were to ask fo: a sum far beyond every amount required for meeting the -- pur-- roses of the country they would soon have a arge surplus. Hefound in the Dominionx | subsidies just to allow him to keep on in the way he was going. Mr. Meredrth had said that in the asylums there were a large number of gersons who were hopelessly in. sane, ind that they might be put in institu-- tions where their maiintenance would be much less than at gresem. l;{'on. A. M. ROSS--That was not what he said. Mr. _CREIGHTON replied that that was what Mr. Meredith had said, and that what he said was the sufgest.ion of Trs Gnosr. The Government, he went on to say, had given a false idea of the financial posi-- tion of Ontario. On the strength of this idea people came to the Government and asked for this and that expenditure. -- The Govern-- _ment had encouraged the ople to ask for increased expenditure. Tfig roper plan for every man in this House and l%r every man in the Province, was to call on the Govern-- ment to shorten sail, and not to ery to the Dominion Government to come to their re-- scue, to hushand their resources, to cur-- tail their expenses wherever possible. Me knew that they had ne _ to such a length that it would be tfitoflcult to curtail now. A change should come, some-- thing should be done. The gentlemen in charge of the Province should fairly consider the case and admit that they ¥1ad done wrong. They should change their plan and not wreck the fair Province of Ontario. Dr, MclLAUGHLIN proposed to follow the hon. gentieman who had just spoken-- through some of his meanders. It had been said that there was nothing new under the sun. There was certainly nothing new in the attacks of the gentlemen opFosite against the Government. The hon. geutleman had called the attention of the House to the roposal of the Government to increase the h«'cnse fees, and he told them it was not going to please the municipalities. The in-- crease of license fees proposed in the Trea-- asurer's ttatement had pleased him. Through-- out the United States this plan had been adopted for two purposes : for raising reve-- nue, and for the purpose of the the Dominion