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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 23 Feb 1886, p. 1

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All those institutions are worked under Boards ottrustees. whirl: are corporations having control of the funds. nonwwhat the mine as the University is managed by the Mute. Under our system. where our uln- cational institutions how to be supported by annual grants made by the House. I am quite certain that the Horne would never consent. to the adoption of the American system, and vote large.- sums of money to be mane. ed by independent boards. I proposu, lineman. that the Board shall he a purely advisory one. Very shortly after I became Minnel- of Agrivulture i became Very strong] 'otthe goie,i.ep, that the establish- ment 0? such a card composed of prurtical humans was desirable. it it: the denim of the Government that the institution should be recognized as a purely farmers" in- stitution. one of the lending educa. l 'iional institutions of the country, and l by the tdentithv.tion of the farmers of the country we think We shall unarmed more com- pletely in these emu. One object I am Mire will be brought about. namely. that We shall free. it from a great deal ot the criticimu to which it has been subjected. In at years there has been . tendency to critical: the in. stitution {romp purely party standpointand I think this wulltake from the "riticism the State" ion" V,_. """""_"'....q'F.' "Kahlil" In Met, a large proportion. if not " great ma- jority. ot the attendance in ot teat-hem, eivil vuzineers. and ruevhattieal ettgineers, and other branches of trade. Minty of them have Mme into large ex uses, and Michigan has ercvteda large i,u"/ll?i1ti'; the urpmo of ttiv. ing instruction in 1'f,lr'llllif eukineeting. We have nut attempted to go into anything of that kind. and by those. means they have mad» the colleges across the lines more popu- lar than ours. I tnentioned the Act of 1882 as the one under which the colleges were established, aud it. appears that Con ross gives to each State 30.000 acres nf lung for each Senatur and nttuuber of Congress by which it is represented. These lands were donated to the States for the pin use of Ptt- tlowment. None of the fund prmrm't'd is to he nantled in buildings. and it is to he Der. Jie. Hem" To extend the operation of the Land Titles, Act 1885 to the county of Perth. Mr. Harvourr--To amend the Act respect- Ing building and other societies. . _ Mr. Freouan--To saturate certain muni- cipalities in Wellitigtoi,und Grey and erect the some into the County of Palmerston. TUE Athlt'l'L'l'l'HAL COLLEGE. Hon. A. N. ROSS-Last- year during the discussion in connect inn with the Agricul- tural College t announced to the. House that the Government had in contemplation the establishment of an advisory Roam in con- nection with that institution'. I also stated that I intended to visit some American in. stitutions which are mainly conducted under Boards. for the purpose ot seeing how these systems were managed. I visited the Agri. cultural Colleges at Lansing. Michigan, and those belonging to the stateiiof Iowa',' Kansas, and Indiana", And although i found all these colleges doing splendid work, and perhaps better equipped. and having also larger ttt. tendance thnnours. still t cattle. hat-k cou- Vinced that in purely agricultural instruction and experimental work, Ontario took the. lead of them all. (Applause) In fact these colleges have gone more into mechanical schools than agricultural collegeu. Their en- dowment was given by Congress in 1862 for the Purpose of founding an agricultural col. lege on industrial school in everyStule. and they hare become more industrial in thcir Character. for the reason that they have found out. as we have done here. that there is _,1,.i,,tth,t,'t.t', in etting a large number of far, mere cont: 'n'd',f't'lfa"t.i an uttendanu: of two, three, or tous. Yeats " needed at a college in order to learn the business of farming. They haw heen compelled. therefore. for the pur- pose of tillingtheir colleges, to brunch out into "qr M --.. "nun-unan. "H" ll IN tO "e per'. )ctua'ily kept up tor the purposes mentioned. tany !.te,Potild occur in the fund then the Kin!" -nn . "onr't.."ii,] "'NriGriirGi;rTta"iiiir"tiiiirre. port at the RailwayCouunitlce. FIRST READINGS. "The. following Bills were read the first mumm- [ my Our Own Reporters.) Tl'lIiDAY. Feb. a. The Speaker Idsk the chair a: three o'clock. COMMITTEE REPORTS. Mr. Gibson (Hamilton) resented the fohrth {span tsf Private Bills 8fi'll'l'ill'll,, Fifth Parliament -.. Third Session. Mr; Laidlaw-To amend Ttth' [NDL'HTRKAL SPHERE. WAVE TO MARI!" the Municipal he [louse that emplation the Board in con- l also stated political animus which has formerly chame- terised il,. .It is our desire to haw. on that Board farmers of practical experience. well known to the farmers of the country. I know that there are farmers of experience in both political parties, and the Government believe that we can get farmers from THE FRONT RANKS OF THE: PROFESSION of both political views who Avill sit on the Board; We shall therefore see'that; both hides are represented. Then the Bill contains Another proposition. That is that each county and unorganized distriet shall be entitled to send and maintain there one student with. out the ?d'2h.l.l,t', of the. entrance. or tuition fees. I te advantages which will result from this are that the students being nominated by the County Councils, the College will be brought to theirnotiee. The work it is doing will be under their attention, and I have no doubt that. these Councils will see that the most advanced and most deserving of the farmers' sons have the nomination. Another advantage will he that the students will he t'eqtu'yiediestherepresentatives of the county, and they will this take an interest, in the ull'uirs of the College. By these means and the .utudetttsthturvielveq ihe advantages of the College will be more thoroughly dissemi- nated over the Province. Any one who looks over the returns will see that some counties send many students while others do not wild trtly. This arises from the for! that the counties Were not so interested in the sum-ass of the institution as they would in future he. With these ex- planations, l move the second reading of the Itil Hon. J AMES YOUNG said hm: the mem- ber for Peterburo'and some ot his friends in Opposition alwaystoolc the most pessimiss tie view of all matters connected with the College. One member appeared to think that the Cullegoslioold be conducted m a commercial institution. and that. while git - ing instruction to 100 sstndenta, ir should at the sunur time be run at " protit, 'l'lii-i proposition only needed to ho stated in order to show its utter "hsurdity. The establishment of the Hoard mp; not ac. some hon. gentlemen ap- pcarcd to I liink. an ovidcncc that Something Wits "mug with the anuirN of the Valli-go. It "is in h- expsu'etl that thaw control. lin; the itntitution would profit by the, ex- pr'riPnee which they gained trlrmyetrr to year. and ilic appointment of the Board was oy.p of Ilium! thing" which expon'ipuce sump-MM. llc lwlicvmi it would In: [Mind that ihe Gov. m-nniom could uni shield itself holnind the Advisory Brno-d, hm that it would he held isr'spimsirtle. not only for it i own act s. hut, for th" acts of the Board. Thiu, hon. grlitlmm'n onpmilc t'sprtssed groan hawk-wt the Board should ln- all composed of memberx of one pm ty. No Irt.i tor evidence of cxtrcine parli- zuinliip could ho found than thu making of such achmge after the express declaration of thc treasurer that mullctncn of hot h poli- tical parties would ho appointed. Irtte area! hound! which they expound the Collegrp In confer wan tttis-that, its students gaunt; out to various parts of the Province would dis. seminatc Mr. CARNEGIE said that the oCeet of the Hill, as it stood, was to divide the res ttsi. bility bet ween the Commissioners aanAd- visory Board. He believed tho Minister should have made the Council of the Agri- culture and Arts Association the Advisory Board. And the objevtlon was that the Board would, after all, be a political body. If a Conservative were appointed, and if he werearntut of convictions, and expressed them, his usefulness would be gone. He questioned the propriety of giving each County Couneil power to Ind, the College. It would become it mattrr o more favourit, ism. Lt provision were made tor favourable terms to students who had been actively on- gaked in agricultural pursuits, it. should be irrespective otthe counties, whence the stu- dents catne. lull} CLANCEY made several objections to the ill. Mr. WATERS said that while some Con- s;ervatives. view this institution in a non- partisan light. others were dis sell to re- gunl it an uninstitutiou (vlll?lloh"lloirL',')'i were running on political grounds. If any- thing could be done to remove that feeling it would be a great step in advanw. lie wastherefore glad to learn that the board was to he selected from members of both political parties. and he hoped that any Con. Mrvut ives who were appointed would chm-r- fully act. lln- Was not iluding any articular fault with the College. but, he haan doubt there was room for ittrpi'ovetuent, and that those in nuihorilv would be benetltted by th,"txptry-yy.'t.vA.a,dp.ri.ee of. practical men. Bill 'l'lll-J KNOWLEDGE THEY "AD ACQUIRED. In thisviow it mu important that the. stu- dents should comv from all sutetions of that Provinm'. and this was the object aimed at in allowing each county mum-it to nominate a student. He lwlieved that the Hill would uh: the etreet, of making the college still 3.0m useful to the farmer's interests of this

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