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it was privileged as to income. But perhaps I its endowment would be little if any more than 1 that of a large High school or collegiate insti. tutu. The endowment would be ahaut 85,000, while the endowment of a large collegiate institute was about $4,000. It Was also said that Upper Canada college was the rich man}; school, and tended to foster an aristocratic system. He Was thoroughly in sympathy with the democratic spirit. In a cer- tain sense Upper Canada might be called a rich man's college, because a poor man could not pay the fees. But, after all, the expense of sending a pupil to a High school at a distance was little less than that of sending him to U. C. College. Again, it was to be remembered that the resi. dence was to he self-sustaining. and therefore no objection could be raised on that score. Those who used U. C. College had to pay their share for the High schools and Collegiate institutes, although they did not uae' them. Then it was said to he asehool for Toronto people. This was to a certain extent true, but it was proposed to re. move this objection by providing that the school should be mainly residential-that is, that the first place should be given to residing pupils. Finally it was objected that the in no other college. There wuye certain objec- tions to Upfer C anada College. One was that it was nrivi cued as to im-mnn Rut nnrhnmx be nearly equal to that of a High school. 2. The text books would be similar. 3. The entrance examinations would be simi- - lar. 4. The qualification of teachers would be Pr Iimilur. 5. They would be subject to the saline inspection as High schools. Referring again I to the question of endowment, Mr. Ross said that he expected that the University and 2 College would be amply provided for for the " next quarter of a. century. By placing at her disposal the site of Upper Canada College they would give her an ever increasing revenue. As to Upper Canada College, she came making for only a certain portion of the bounty which had been graut- . ed te her. She 'wus willing to part with all but 8100,000, trusting to the gener- k unity of the people of Ontario, her standing and the record she had made. She said, " I will trust myself to the friends who havcT graduated from these halls to enable me to be more usefulin the future than I have been in the past; and the benetits I have conferred in the past will be but th sample of the greater C" boons I will confer in the future." He trusted = the appeal would not be in vaitt,--Applttttse--- that the House would rise superior to petty jealousics, and unanimously agree thntthey had contidenceinthejudgment of their . fathers, and that the love for high education i which had always distinguished the Legisla. E turo, would enable them to agree upon this 3 matter. (Load cheers.)_ - _ " i. college was not a. part of the school system of the Province. It was proposed to remedy this in several ways. 1. The endowment would be, nearly equal to that of a High Mr. MEREDITH spoke briefly, expressing i' his approval of the scheme, and pledging his 3 support to the Government. He utterly re- '. pndiated the ground which had been taken out. , side, that the Legislature had no right to :i interfere with the endowment of Upper Cana- rd da College. The endowment was held in trust 3 for the people, and the people had the right to Fe deal with it. He expressed the hope that the 5 settlement which had been arrived at would be 5: a. final settlement, and that no more would be '.',! heard of the agitation for the abolition of the t College. fApplauae.) Mr. WA't'ERb' said when he pat his motion on the paper to abolish the Upper Canada College he had no idea that the Government was going to take any such action, or indeed any action at all in regard to that institution. A great- compromise had been made between the' total abolition of the college and its con. tinued existence in its present shape. Not. withstanding the able arguments of the Min. ister of Education in favor of tho continued ex. istence of the college, he was not by any means convinced that a democratic country like Canada they needed such a school as Upper Canada College. Mr. Ross had referred in high terms to the great schools of England, but while he had great respect for the schools he thought he could state without fear ot successful contradiction that those same schools had done more to maintain elase distinc- tions than almost any other influence. Mr. MriRFsDi'1'H-r-No, no. " The leader of the Opposition said " No,_no, but he held that he was correct in his Views, and he only hoped the institution would not have a similar effect in this country. . HOW- ever, he accepted the bill as a compromise and a settlement of the matter, and a compromise, moreover, more in favor of those who favored its abolition than of those who wanted its con- tinuance in its present shape. He held that the school was not patronised by the bull: of the the people, and that such an institution as an undeaominational residential school, ought, as a matter oi fact, to be established and main- tained by private enterprise. _ _ - .. , Mr. ifcLkijiAiiisi'rsiij he had favored the abolition of theCollege because he believed the College had been living long on the funds rightfully belonging to the University, which Wag badly in need of those funds. He object- ed, however. that inthe 1linisteroi' Education's statement no estimate was given of any sum for the enlargement or improvement of the library. He objected also that the large figure of $12,000 should be given as an estimate for students' fees. He thought students should have to pay no fees. Mr. RUSS-Kale gets $140,000 in fees. Mr. MULAUGIILIN said however that might be, a good many of the universi- ties in the United States admitted students free, at least those coming from their own States, and he thought the same thing should be done in the case of Toronto University, where he knew there were a good many students who could scarcely pay the annual fees, small as they were, and who had to support themselves by clerical labor. The speaker also warned the House against investing any portion of the proceeds of the sale of Upper Canada College in city property in the Lope that that property would rise in value, because he thought it was not possible to tell what was going to happen. Commercial Union with the United States was talked of, and if that were brought about the business of a wholesale city like Toronto would go down and property would depreciate. He advised the House to have a care. - - - "("01;.'"chISON AND MR. MOWAT. Mr. MEREDITH asked the Attorney- General if he considered himself responsible w" Du you think Commercial Union likely?" asked an hon. member. b6 We never know what's going to happen " retolietUpr..,1leyyysr!tlin. ' 'Mr. II. bl. CLARK protested against what, he said, appeared to be an intention sooner or later, on the part of the Government to abolish Upper Canada College, and he wanted an as. snmncc from the Government that it had no such intention. "011,110 '." said the Minister of Education. The bill was then read a third time without a. division. _