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[License Commissioners Expenses and Division Court Commitments], 6th Parliament 2nd Session, p. 1

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. y * V s We WW m., P sn mm ulc k dn a's C ieX m 'IWL oT ' ~ x & _' for .it (would not be much trouble for| . is 0 /9R O ngg n o * oys PRX * | 3 t a ACT * / them to fio out if it became neces _ _ us e M ARIU LEGIS 1 | sary to close the doors. It is h(ld? OMiacadonry | & ' worth while'to renew the motion since there is } C C e ponrm wmmmamnanacthn | the reason Idh?'ve llnen'tioned for the 'exi.ltl"pg e 4 »orenimennmermerc s * % - h \. practice, and the change would perhaps involve 'M th Parl iament, Secon d |. others, which might not be convenient. | petitions or other applications for the removal, | ---- e Session { Mr. dMEREDI'lH expressed the opinion that | ;. y 1 copies of all correspondence with reference , * & if the doors were to be opened, the public.ul to such petitions or applications of the said semmneemmmmmmmmanemmzmmenm in w°". as the press representatives should' be removal, and also of coptes of all reports to the f s Reportor.) admitted, _ 'The subject had been a good de@l | iycoutive Council or his Honor the Lieu-- | $ (8y Our Own PP discussed, and no harm should result from the | ;opant.Governor with reference to said mat-- | : A February 7, 1988. ehange. The easicst way out of the difficulty | g5pg or any of thein. t he Speaker took the chair at three o'clock. _ would be fto r!mllce the c(}mnge proposed. 'These Mr. -- Harcourt --Thursday next -- Return | c ramn i npe matters of privilege seldom come up, and_they showing (1) amount paid up to this date for fis POLICE MAGISTRATES. :ould be discussed before prayers. land expropriated for Niagara Falls Park pur-- ; . PHELPS presented a bill to amend the t{lon.-Mr. L\(tlé)w iq;r__)'l'hoso would not WARt | poses, to whom paid and dates of pnymexg. \ cti lice magistrates, which was, | & Di€SS!NA. | [ c ob' . oc ef * (2) A detail statement of-- all moneys' ex. s respecjtzxpg l $ Hon. Mr, FRASEK said he had in his ex-- pe(m)led by the Government (other than for the | ( the tirst time. perience known one or two cases in which sub-- purchase of land) through the Park Commis | ( + MUNICIPAL ACT. jects were debated with closed doors. It | gioners or otherwise during 1887, and for what ' 'A . SMITH ahd Mr. CLARKE (Well ington) :'(':::d t}:: '::':":'e";:s";:w:"c;:"':'infl;: g:}ll::l:: services and to whoin paid. i: A sented bills to amend the Municipal A¢ _ mpintgain the pxmcient rivilege of elBliers to crg&())l:lk'g (:33::}('); 'te'lf:lsva.oig l:)); t'j)\xeil &:iour;;:mz:lo:!; ich were read the first time. i have a subject debatezf with closed doors. If | any other account during 1887. f PRIVATE BILLS. (| prayets® Were to be used at all they should | _ (q) Names of all parties appointed to any The following private bills were presented | precede everything that was done, office in conmnection with the park up to this 'read the first time :-- l COMMIsSsIONS. j date, showing also the nature of their employ-- Respecting Trinity church, Tor onto--Mr. | M"- MEREDITH, "_'°"°d for a return of / ment, their salaries and the dates of their ap-- ys (Poronto). | : copies of all commissions of inquiry issued ; pointments. Respecting the St. Catharines & Thorold | during the years 1886 and 1887 ; the subject of | _ Mr. Blyth--For an address for a return of reet Railway Company--Mr. Garson, | juquiry in each case; the names of the com-- | all Orders in Council with respect to the in« To incorporate the William Hall, of Peter--| missioners, their salary or other remuneration, | vestment of sinking funds of municipalities 6ro', Protestant Poor Trust--Mr, Stratton, ./ and a statement of the expeuses of each such | under the Municipal Act. @ 1 To empower the executors of James Spariing | inquir{y. Such return to show whether the l fmmemmmmmmncemntenmmmmemmpmmesl " | to selil certain lands--Mr. Leys (FToronto). \ commissioners or any of them _ held * '\ Respecting the South Nortolk Reilway Com-- _ any, and if so, what other oflice or em-- pany --Mr. Morgan. ployment in the public service of the Pro-- . t t To authorise Kliza Howson and others to sell --vince. -- He explained that his object in moving E @ertain lands--lMHon. Mr. Fraser. the _ resolution was that the _ House 3 * To renew the charter of the Saugeen Valley ; mifiht know to what extent the Government _ o) Railway Company ----Mr. Moredith for Mr. --| had wnade use of the powers vested in them of -- W Biggar. appointing commissions and the expenses so ~ wl , MORTGAGES. bacurrod. While he did not doubt the qualifica-- ,' \~ .Mr. GIBSON (Hamilton) presented & bill tions of those appointed in the various cases, _ | «to amend the Act respecting short forms of their remuncration in some cases, 1t seemed to +-- _ |mortgages, which was read the first time. | hlil::;n?:\?:ldw'});uu :t(;i':::al;lsert?lih?xde "frotl:n et;:xt: " j LICENSE COMMISSIONERS' EXPENSES might as well have performed the (Futy. He ; _ _\ '_ Mr. LEES moved for an order of the House | noticed also that gentlemen had been appoint-- | _ _\ for a return, showing all estimates of expeuses / ed who held high positions in the Civil | . 'é of License Commissioners, and in connection _| Service. If these were given extra reimnunera-- l ' 3; with the enforcomeut of the Canada Tem-- | tion for this work a principle laid down by | ___| perance Act, «approved by the Provincial Seec-- $ gentlemen opposite was violated. : "!{"\ ' retary of Ontario, for the years 1886--87 and Hon,. Mr. MOWAT said he had no ob-- | '%..i 1887 88, including the salary and expeuses of [ jection to _ the imotion. It would seem _ police magistrates. _ from _ the mover's _ speech _ that _ he 4 _____ After a brief discussion of an explanatory [ objected whoether members of the Civil Ser _ character the resolution was carried. vice were appointed or not. The practice was \igh DIVISION COURT COMMITMENTS. to appoint these officers when such appoint-- <§ Mr. HARCOURT moved for an order of the ments did_ not interfere with their regular ©___ House for a return, showing the number of @auties No remuneration was given them persons committed to gaol in each county in other than t'('l"'"' regular salary, but expenses ~____the Province under Division Court process they incurred, of course, were paid. f _ during the year 1887 ; the number of those The resolution was carried. _ who remained in gaol for a period exceeding p TIMBER DUES. _' one month, together with the number of those Mr. MEREDIUIH imoved for a roturn of against whom the judgimment recovered was for pies of all Orders in Council or other regn-- * an amount less than ten dollars. Carried, tions, with regard to timber dues, passed Mr.GRAHAM moved the resolution of which mee the 1st day of January, 1835. Carried. he had given notice, in favor of admitting the The Hoase adjourned at 3.55 o'clock. press reporters to the gallery during the read-- ; & y agr e mmgrel ing of prayers by Mr. Speaker. _ He said :--I NoTICEs OF MOTION, have several reasons for placing that resolution t. Ingram--Ona Friday next--Bill to amend before the House. (Laughter). I may say that Act to provide for the payment of wit-- f I think this is a custom which cannot be de-- s for the Ccown. fended. r. Stuart--On -- Monday next--Bill to 4 Aun hon. member--What is ? the Coroners Act. + _ Mr.GRAHAM--Having the doors closed dur-- Mevedita--O0a Friday nexs--An ad-- ing our prayers. It is suggested in the press that tw roturn of the writ ol superseleas 4 the members of the House do not pay the at-- the removal of James Guilbounee | ® tention during prayers that they should, I comimmission of the peace for the 'l have never seen anything of that kind myself, *Peterborough ; also copies of all © and if there is a notion of that kind abroad the only way to disprove it is to allow the report-- ers of the press to occupy the gallery during ; & the prayers. 'The only thing I regret is that 1 ' did not make my resolution wide enough to \ f admit the public at larie. I would have no j objection at all to amend it at this time. I $ can see no reason why the public should not ' be admitted during the prayers. I am satisfied T j £ that the good sense of the public would pre-- 3 BR vent anything unscemly during the prayers. ' Mr.SPEAKER read the resolution, announc-- w ing Mr.O'Connor as the seconder. It wasfound, -- _ w however, that Mr. O'Connor was not present, @@ and the resolution could not be voted upon. Great laughter was aroused by this ending of '; the aftair. & \ _ Subsequently on motion for adjournment, i Hon. Mr. MOWAT said--I might expiain * 3 _ _| that the reason why prayers are otfi:rod before f the doors are opened is that [it is sometimes e + found necessary to discuss a matter of privi-- , lege before the doors are opened. It was "thought better therefore to begin with prayers, i --| so that such a discussion might go on before 6. the doors were open, Otherwise, when such m auestion was to be discussed with closed - doors, the people would have to be turned out of the galleries. There is no particular object ' 'in having the reporters here during prayers, | ( }(* the prayers are read and they kunow all about them. (Laughter.) Perhaps, however, L--" exception might be made of the reporters, y We 'h"___* a*

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