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[The Two Fronts], 6th Parliament 2nd Session, p. 2

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" *l A N 1% I . 1e h N'iiNi 'i'i'i?E "iii "ar, mp ' "in" T": FIM-" '= rrT5E9, *'"'t t '."» . . ' r""";" . i " E's' _ " ' rr e at r r can on - a m ; h, an . rain __ _t and... . .* .. .1 r . . . ' . . , . t s (yrr?firretsti.sttiit S . . 4.1;; .7 'i.P: thought the time of tho conference that was not m the Provinoe. W hat, in would ',ttogitt21iit1uN'-idiilll11f, Wciod g,t.b,/i?..ele"' ' ' "'. ' a l ' .chosau, having rtiprd to the char. ask the hon. gentleman. would have been the V THE 8EN ATE _ i. [l excitement prevailing or that was result had the contention of Sir John Macdon- n 4 _ bd . . it _" - " . in the Provinces oi (2%be :a.nd old that tho Province bad no right to control Mr. ll 00D (Hastings) moved 1n amend. ' i 'tIli,: He objected to Messrs. holding her licenses .%sen sustained? What would ment:-- . . We pq . y buing.nysmbers of a conference tn. have been the result had his contention been C tr1,?,i,i1.r,ttth/inr,',ii,o,ieyrr),g1at'e'; git (Eepnlznlg is"? the IH _s", . 1" consider well questions ar', l sustained, that the Streams Bill should be fi'fr'li'.li a t',1'/r's'//.r'lfryy solution oi' 1ue"offdsule, , N . come lysioro 1t ou 'accomlit l disallowed f? One by one ail urged to tliiithodv as it now exists under the pro. N if ' V re/g,',', 1i2yf,'y't, /t 1',1,',n1?fyvi:'r",itne I: l THEIR moms worm HAVE GONE, "it',',',' 11thre "iir:,)ii1 d . ' , ' _ _ tttet ie saic o" l _ . . ' . ? 2 ti , . ' - _ ~ 'Ill' it 'tdir ' , ., d the Inde and the liberties and powers which the Pro. l on " move m amendment u f . ' " t at t " e orm "mess . n . . vines had so long enjoyed would have disap- ' to the amendment '.--- " LI N 'L'S ' press 1uriy',tttg,l these ','ictr),1jt'i,titie,e, pasted His impeachment of the license leois- Tiiac ""3" be yeyif, f,?, the ttIii/se.),',',',!':,?,? these , M. , is ain in so Hort or us pOsi ion . . . .. " , a. , wordit--T lat an mm c a-lircss 'ou presented to _ , a I' a Fria', a. 1,"lc'tyJtl?d'v'at'iC,' incrning _ lotion and his disallowance ot the Streams Bill his Honor the Iic'u'ct'nrwt-9rovctTos'. requesting i t , a . MB. . l G . . t lauser-ts con. would have been but the commencement of an hint to l ominunicziic to his lixrclicncy the Gur. . , Pt b' "(Mink overnmtn "'pr . invasion of Provuteial ri lite whi ,,1 l 1 h . ctnrotsGencprd and the Secretary of Siam the con- . i. r... 'e".-" , rrrao. c g ciwoui ave ... , T. s.,1..r _.... _ . . d on of the resolutions. U18 lion. gen . CullCllk'c'Ol this House in the said resolutions. y . , at 'defeiided the Senate but referring to ceased nobody knew where, but certainly H said that 'ah tole t . , l l r ' F,' "It ition of irriic'i'ifie' admitted that lu, lit utter disaster to the Province. ri e fty ii tlt .'a up (N /ll).1't0J, "Iii" /l11 been T ' , . i t I . , . . . I b ti ' St", . . , . . . ', "', . . . l ..' tl ' q _ . 4:i " f The Provinces had lost ground in regard to the g, ven ur t "u _uoil, am w ""lg " t rata vote 5 y, ', r WI. q It"istiy "the!" i'FeJM wot'. "is " interpretation of the power of disallowance should be taken upon the resolutions asawliole. I lt g . ( it" "To? th/'o,','Ctji("g.//',iP',t',.l/ci"yh'tt; since Sir John had written his celebrated Mr. MHRriDITH said he admired the com.) Fu ta , . l pr . to uJi, it td may" to the Lu Mate paper on the question of disallowance. Inge oi'.Yoy: gentlemen opposite. It "as a t ' Government and, noted from 1'UEGLoiry. In regard to great public works, the Pro. l most pitiOie. thing, in dealingsutli this no- it T to w what ii' C:),'?,','.';?:',, would be thu I Vince were not in as good a position as they l portaiit question, that lion. gentlemen would tr _ ntvttmt f p y it ",treet, ioniination which 'Were seventeen years ago. The Dominion gag tt1y.ntcm"ier'3 of the House and that nothing nil V' I {up ' ox n 1gp I? l ' al ' {-f l , F Government had taken possession of all their I but this unauthorised cumin" should be , ' . ttrteti, wy'. Joum to come a Jott l t te t ilr d l ti Pt. __. , l d b rlutel l placed before the House. To add to their In I , Ingrid authorities secured the power or Veto. t'NI t'Ot' s, an} m t'0V1UC'e m u Bro y ' "li , y . y 7 . . l m" Th "h m, tle . _ id . mcvrsion had lost ground in that respect. lie had never, ffnvtu"lrce the) "f"? proposingdo deprive the _ te . 9 on. gen ep.?." s"." on as! u "d ' l il l , l, ' f. I 1 k ' 1 rd Opposition of their constitutional ri.etst to " F, been out on the ability of the members of the i untt t m ""Y? e1 or 10m on spo c, ice. ' I . l p .. a 7's Dominion Cabinet and in relsttal of and that the ieurislatiun of this House was perfect. ""iif, "K?" 'll li'si,s. ' I . id hi _ g. . .i ' , , . l". ,_ :" . ,. ".tr" ' ' vqM . 'ggL, on. - r. in t. , IU rep ying can He _ e i ,. . ". "it: snot LD Li. AN At EAL . . V _ , , J, Chute he enymeraied the goou "uali.tictei tue "f t .' hon. friend seemed to tool a little sore over the a- - E'r, v.gioitatnetri'ucrs or that body and added a and thequor,tion was to whom this appeal castigatious he had. )'C('Cin:(l on the previous . t it th' tribute to the abilii of lion. lilward Blake should be. In theiirst lace there was the i. . b Fe , . , B..., - , . Y. Mr , y ' rr, , ' I) . , , . uay, and he. did not. "code: at it, for lie was tt n 'lk" and Hon. Alex. 1luckcuzie. llio lion. 'ontie- l " cal to the mo ole, of this Province. lhls slats br 2KF .i. ..' ,; . r . . . . ' _ ' _ l . g . PD " I . . . not used to meaning, sin h ticatmcnt from the ' n. _ Y, g man closed by stating that the resolutions l enlisted the interest otevery ratepayer in this hands 0, the llon. Tiustsurcr whose eloquent e V " 'boin" presented to the Home as a. whole, he Province in what was going on in ihisChamber. speech Was a iitt,v.:.t veply to such a ih,iiiiliiirf e Fl i/had no resources but to Vote against them. Under the union of the two Provinces joint speech as had Lawful": 1"- the. hon leader of t d l , , _ l, Mr. GARSUX said he had been much pleased Control oi the aifairs or . the individual Pro, the Opposition He thourrht there F .. , id l . ' '1 , with the manner in which the, Attorney-Gen- ' VHK'US wt" iouud to 1ys.iujtu1out, and yet hon. i "saeonyr'uy um'qmnndmgnt 8r theCorntniiq ' " , ll ' oral had introduced the resolutions and would l gentlemen opposuto claimed that, HOW] that so l of Public. iiai'i""sirriiii rot he voted " d , . . . . " . " I I I N ' I ' Hike to have seen the discussion continued trom i, "Huff "10w Pris-"1093 had been added, a"; i' cnce ' _ n . . ' . . ' . . I i , I .' 'an independent standpoint l but the Up- ant tortties at ttywt) W910 competent am l , , . . " N 1,» ttWiou ltuuler--tvitiw starting " with should be entrusted with power to control the l tchdgg,'ie, trnd Mr. Cre'ghton contain: ' . . . s ' , - . . , a s . o . r l l . t l i a brilliant dcsvciption oi ( anads s position and "Haifa of the individual Provnices. lire tyt- I The House divided M Fr i d N i ts-s i d». '" d d n ' 1vcdicui of dency of the a e was against centralisation: _ ,. Sn, . r.: macro amen . . ' , _ rupee s sot lt (sun cl co L] ion Ji . g . , ment which was carriedl Mt 30 tl di . r , " ' ' I t _ if hc. 't!S 1 _ l w b " _ .. " and in favor of the extension of Local Govern. l , , . . )y CO o , "e tho . i, no ruin 1 ti. icwiiiions nu more til. I . e IW, a , . , . . . i I Sion 'etug the same as that upon Mr. Creigh- H _. w e auc " J and n niedmicl ment. A lance at any pait o , " , y oust: er 1 C , l I y , g t, l tons aiiioiidineiit reversed tt , I A "mm." ttKl',A'l'l'. Europe w.ould corroborate his state- Mr. MERI'WH'I'H iriiif whether the our 0 RI was reci )itatm' 'l'l , membcr for Novth H; st nieiit. Again, was it not reasonable to in ' of Mr iii gel, . d t . l d d r- o . i' in 'ylll'ic'il uivdtl'Niuit with 1'i,rilii'i'd, ittt i "v0: I. suppose that the ninety members of this House IIISVlll r or: an ()'1eut'dd,"r".'a1tt IS' I"tee u e the ll? _ 'dh', if; h t i' ; t k "if. l I" iNNiri l,' i); know what Were the local wants of the various The. 'j'sillh,ltd 19:38" "lei" 3'11 ' n is i Al " ' il avol ' rr I i' . . . h " 3."! 1 View; ll)" m . It "ll: ', ' J, i L ' l' Nit} i , l ii parts of the Province with which they were sol inents could t c n :3"? tat no urt " "non41 N., . i "i... It'. t: -r l'a'; . T ' .. i . _ the n si/i/tl, "I: l I l' hm tio', 1" Wit inch: ll well acquainted better than half a dozen SP"; The Ranch JI,' ei -d 12 40 " 'r. _..., c>ib l 'etru. .i , . . ' Br th' uldam 1,3" I'." T" rx, , .4.Nr m i; l. l" tlemenar. Ottawa could know them? lliei ' kltllllw at . . T . a,' s.". N, . i l. ' . i.', y Itif ' i.) 1...)" . 'm-'-.--------- - & .,'. phi" ' y, , l . ' . . ar . _ t great advantage of referring the veto power to r) 3 i '. CNN d/l' '""i.t " 'fri' Il?"."" tho, It.',,']"),"'?,',,"),', 0 the Imperial Government would be that the , a lot " Li 1 g _ 'r' 'g'.er, T . . . . . _ l IE ":35, :Nsiit'iniyd ill,')',,,'. /t1,)1ut"1',lvf'S,'r,t,o, rm 2:? matter of political eotptdienyn,.wh,i,ch entered . I . ' , b A in '1 " ,"1' l "'1 'l l p ll' . I so largely into the question of disallowance by . E t e mum a f/let',.",",',".,',' to s, P.i'llf" P" "'9' ti- Dominion, would never affect the question , :ges. f fwmud "f 1wtsierirc4 titu.tot'al aim". or sisallowance were the power vested with d Iruin . t ic benatcto its r1jc?,rritytt1..ct':lty.y.?rly.'yt the Imperial authorities. Touching on $6 the e . ', of edit at .cngtli y itlrtlie financial piopomils loyalty cry," he would ask the attention of ' h x. t ff, 1;" c?f/f'.y,.'tf, 'itiy.ingntlyt21'tt"e,, wcytid the hon. member for Toronto, who, he said, . o . it te' {fl-.43"? " "Milli C',',, J.")', t "its"? 1lt " had raised this question, to a line that had Y __ v; a?" hull" '21"ll) "ft t l if" i 'ua. ty cry, t been written by a celebrated English writer- tt E' Mime"? 2 et 'Y "i1T""dli", t ',fy,1."e,"" 1""? l Etude. It was this ..--" There are those who _ tt tt w 'i o " 0mm" .."l" "Emmi" es dot I think thatthey discharge every obligation which t ' 'lt')', claimed the credit of encouraging national they owe to virtue when they praise it." e Ilk? {sentiment they had both to a certain .exteiit s" This sentence seemed to him to apply q K' " tfir/f:. t'i1)trp"e,ud ""i,rl.""1'e1"rlyi _ very aptly to hon. gentlemen oppo. " F , LI I; ' r. _ cgan l lLlllal'hlng I site who talked so much of loyalty. o r Ee. I upon . "trv, h , U l He concluded by expressing the hope that as r: i I . d r. 115 Ity I'.. lee.','.)'::'?,')'. , ', to these important resolutions they might show " lit ' _ __ an. "jc." trut 1, 1Hness m our) statement "I" ', the people of this Province that they could rise . MIM . tamed in the Quebec resolutions. loo hon. ; superior to party considerations . I ' 'lt' gentleman claimed that again and again:' llou Mr 1uiurAT'movedthas the House ' B! , ' judicial decisions had shown that the difterent , do Criir. iiiNtheso resolutions . . ..L". clauses in the Act of Confederation was ', H l? , - , ' D , , _ , , rrr . . . . _ 5 I k , . t 11.31,, ditlicult of interpretation and Was often C Tlil?, dz]; A'Lif9,"3u'CE ITESOLLIIOX' lilrrrfi": misinterpreted. Surely it was reasonable l Mr. Chink-H10) moved "1 amendment t-- I i " that the Act should be made clear, and tho ; 131%" the rilNll'NNNNd nioldol 12it,'i?ii///it with the cilia- ' . . " ., . -- ' . ... ' .1 " m _ a H\\'itlik'dt(1 ronncizi cglsut ion niviiivcs in . KM] huff???" f): Its. {hinged ',iyf,.1/Y out" ":0 transfer to It body not responsible to the people of , c. w' ttornco "Knew r "l . lld Openlllb aut rey, l Canada. ll powers now oxercisa.bl.u by a body . stated that the resolutions were moderate in ' ":llit'll'l'i responsible to them, and is otherwise m ., their tone and temperate in their language. l oit.ir/ciouivbhh and ought ttut t0 be "tlor,'""). ' " lie would promise the House to be very brief l lilo. umy.ul.n.tcnt was put and lost on the I and would address lllllzsulf alone to the tirst following division c- i' resolution, that regarding the question of ,,hr!yrs;,",l,vt1lil1ryir, Nitrite. E. H. (Toronto). w y tiisallowauco. From the tenor of the speech oi Emmi": H. f" J i'orontru, Craig, t VCU-tli-con, ( t'uerri, . _ . tl ' I (no cntleman 0 I iosite he would hull. r'remc!t, ilziinnicll. Moss. Hudson. jygr.yp. .. "W" itin y, gt- . . . . ll -. . ' horns. lit't'S. Manor. 1lvactiani, Meredith. Met. q gather that the class ot suchcts unsigned t1ltt.yiller, Monk. Moi-gun. Oath)! i. Preston, TO THE Iu'.1sjiCloi LMJId'siViilA' re':.)t."it'1i),v'rei,li, 'l'oolcy, Whitney, Wood illust- . . . . ' "Phil V I" -ci was inferior to those assigned to tho Federal I t". '.,', l. l, . T ... F . G Pry.. ' _ b'le held that th so oi the l hum»: AMT"; yT,t,t.tye,m {tine}, 'Balfour, _ iovcrittuettt. . i C' cut . ' J , "alumnus, Piu'utop.l'izytrd, Bronson, C'lu-hoint, V former were oi tliegreatest Importance to every st (:iai'hc tNvwtlitttubcwhtud), Clarke tWelitigtoni, _ ' citizen. They could nut therefore Miami ll, toiinino. Huck. lirury. Dryden. 1uyytttttil.i4,'y'tet1- . g be idl ,1 thcso, rights were be il son. lucid. i, rust-r. 1iustirait, Garson, Cibsott . to A. Y! I? " icrt "'5" g . . . l Ulsiinilioin. Uioson (Huron), Uiliiiour. Gould, A ing iufriugud upon by the Dominion. (lrnlmiii. littlhriv, lliiri-oviri. Hardy, Li-ys. Lyon. Ig. , [Ky The attempt to do this " Uctawahad not been 'ily':),,.".'"),'-,':') MNNlNl'NN" M'HL-Mlshli'pl. McMahon. K , . . Nt . . "l , no". "meter. . orin. a owal, . uri'ar 'Aairn . . infill but "ssistcut, vino resolution said that '.t ' _ , .- " W. _I _ r, b .. . . i' l, . this powci' in the Federal authority might be 01 'ttttltr, pa, And. t llLllh. leusiilt. Itohiilard, I N arbitrarily uscd. Was nut this temperate . " language? Hid time allow he could point to . , _ i one legislative Volunms of every Province and . . . prove this abundantly, that the power had . been arbitrarily used, and that not seldom but I frequently. The action of the Federal author, N itics in regard to the liquor laws was well knonii. 'l'iie McCarthy Act had been pro. t '. pounced by the highest authority to bo ultra . . "vires, while the legislation oi the Province f oi Ontario had been held valid. . l 1 Members of the Government side of the House . r , claimed that, they had strained their right of I His-Allowance to the utmost. Ht. reft.rred..to N 'the Streams Bill, which was arbitrarily dis. l tdlowed on two or three occasmns. Nobody _ I

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