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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 14 Mar 1889, p. 3

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Mr. Clarke, after the laughter had sub. sided, proceeded to any that the license commissioners were merely electioneering agents for the Government. Although a 'Temperance man all his life, he felt that ttweru'oepers had a right to exercise their _ franchise as they felt inclined, and should not depend for their existence on the Gov. . ernment oi the day. The Government were i respooiblo for their oificiaia, and it could I not be. 3 Mr. Gibson (of Huron) declared that the l speech of Mr. Clarke was composed of low liainuations, entirely without foundation, ! and he did not propose to allow them to go l.utysul.h"tged. The tirst man that asked ; him for n commission on the License I Board in his riding was "p Conservative and he got the position. (Cheers) Reformers had not to thank tavurnkeepers in the County of Huron for any political support. There was only one Reformer in that county in the liquor trtuiie to six Conservatives. During the last election he Was told that every hotelkeepet' was against him, to which he replied that he did not expect anything also. Hon. gentlemen opposite lshould remember their record when the McCarthy license law was foisted on the i country, the rule being that Reformers were placed" a. disadvantage when the ' licenses were granted. It Was not so in the administration oi the iCrooks Act, because politics newer interfered with the deci. ' aions of license commissioners. Con. I servatives could not brine anything [against the (Government to show that all their actions in tho appointment of calm missioners would not hear the light of day. He had every respect tor County Councils, but he felt that the administration of the licensing system Was better in the hands of the Provincial Government than handed Ii over to these bodies. ' In "PfiFrc"'fFirriTg to stand on." The speech of Mr. Meredith himself was delivered with considerebls force, but seem- ed throughout to bear the stamp of the lesder of "I lost csuse," sud of s memmore- over, prepared to "critics himself, oven to the bitter end, on the slun- of that cause. Mr. Meredith, it is: being gradually recog- nised, has seen his best days, and he: never known the sweets of victory even st that. EVENING SESSION. no: new". DEBATE com ON AND THE op. POSITION (was DOWN. Mr. H. E. Clarke was the first to con- tinue the debate on the license resolution. He replied principally to the speech of the l Commissioner of Crown Lands, stating " 1 ( first xhst even if Sir John Mncdousld wss l the son of his Satanic Majesty, u the Re. form party contended, there was no reason Why the Government should control for their own interests the licensing of intoxi. cating liquors. He (Mr. Clarke) attended many meetings in the red parlor of the Queen's hotel when the condition of the country wes discussed, but he never hesrd one single demand made by Sir John on the manufacturers for money to carry out the elections. He had listened, he said, with hair on end----. The renminder of the semence was lost amid the explosion of lsughter that followed, Mr. Clarke himself taking part in it. The expression usedwould not generally arouse the risibility of e grave ssselnbly, but the public have to be told that Mr. Clarke, by actual observation, has not e single hair on the top of his head to rise, even it " menagerie of snakes were in his immediate neighborhood. _ Dr. Willoughby continued the debate, mud in half an hour a oech claimed that in " riding (East k1,"r'li"lr,"/,g'Cn"//' the whole power of the liquor traific had been turned against him at every election in recent years. He would rather have Mr. Move: and all the honest members of the Govern. ment working against him than one license inspector. He drew a terrible picture of the note of "hire existing among " con- ltituents. Mr. G. B. Smith regretted the picture drawn oi the eople of East Northiunber. land by Dr. sri';'?,',)',';,,'.' It mu strange, howet er, that the member for East Northumberland when challenged was not able to give the unme of a single violator of tho law, and so for as he (the speaker) were concerned he would not believe that the charges made could be tsubistnntitstod. Coming to the resolution moved by the leader of the Nppositiou, the member for East York argued that it We: ittdefiuite,tuul was not supported by any valid argument throughout the debate. There was nothing to ehow but that tho Crooks Act was a good one, and that it was tuhuiuistered by the Government in the interests of Temperance. That at all events was the opinion of all the Temperance deputation: that waited on the THE TREASURER. TRAILS AWAY THE LAST Simian or " MEREDITII'S CONTEN'X'IONH. Hon. A. M. Ross said the whole agitation against the license commissionersin Toronto arose from a personal squabble between the brewers as to who should get the largest trade in beer. The Government were always anxious that the license law should be ad. ministered impartially, and when charges were made against the license commissioners of Toronto they instituted an inquiry, the result being that they became convinced that there was not a shadow of evidence to prove any of the allegations of favoritism made against the commissioners. There Was no public investigation because no man of responsibility came for. ward to demand that such would take place. He was quite "tisfiod that no more unfounded charges were ever brought against a body of men than that against the license commissioners of To. ronto during the year 1888., These men exercised the authority given them in a conscientious manner, and withal in the interests of Temperance. Amidst the cheers of the House he read . the following state- ment signed by no fewer than 143 out of the 150 saloonkecpers of the city. The seven not signing are the proprietors of the Queen's, Rossiu, Walker, Bodega, Palmer and Richardson house hotels and S. Camp- bell, and the hon. Treasurer said he thought in regard to the large hotels named hon. members opposite would hardly claim that they alone were controlled in the manner contended. Following is the stntement and list of signatures p--. TO WHOM " MAY CONCERN. Statemcnts hnving been published by The World newspaper that contributions have been sought from or obtained from tho hotel- know-rs of Toronto for political and other purpusms,undcr threat of loss or promise of politicalor other ititlucttce in obtaining our licenses. no give the above statement our emphatic denial. and further dccluro that we have never known of the eminence Dingo- culled or alleged "License Guarantee Fund," or any fnnd of.likt:'c'h.ttrtwt.er, . . " . And we also declare that In no instance has tho Board of Linmse Commissioners. or any member of ttho Board at I'lf time or In any manner. directly or indirect y requested or ad vistert us where, to buy out {mac supplies. _ And that in no mamm- lmve we been in, tiucneed or imorfm-cd with by uny member ot the Board in Iunucmof trndo relations between brewer». liquor (mulch. distillers. cigar mum. tm-turers or dealers. and ourselves. _ - Government. - . Mr. Outwm laid it wool A immune. that this debate bij " corroborated the- remarks luughby. * .-.._..-,. 7 '..r" Mr. Waters o posed strongly the irrry.ari taken by Mr. Mpereditll, end chuged Aim. with making an entirely non-committal motion. The terms of the resolution were Very vague. If the member for London we: ever to step across the Mor of the House and take the place of the Attorney- General he would not be bound by it. Why did he not come boldly out and ask that the controlling power be returned to the County Councils? He wanted that in his speech, but not in his resolution. Mr. II. E. Clarke had said that the power poe- seesed by the Government was used in every constituency for electioueering purposes. He did not believe this. He denied most emphatically that the license inspectors had ever used one atom of in- fluhuas on his behnlf. But if their power were used in some constituencies, if the charge mode so freely were true, where would be the advantage by transferring it to County Councils , Could not a County Council appoint inspectors of the shade of politics favored by the mnjority of the Council? Certainly it could, and so the advantage of the chan 0 suggested by Mr. Meredith in speech, gut not in his resolu- tion, would nmount to nothing at all. Personally he would like to see every liquor establishment closed altogether, but mean- time he preferred the controlling power to remain where it wee. Mr. Whitney argued, to show that the license boards were partisan in their chanc- ter, and would be so even if a. Conservative Govcrument were in power. That was the reason why he particularly eudoued Mr. Meredith's resolution. MR. ROSS' BOMB. uir Gat- -otTifairita, iurtiikdiurN portect- W. Armstrong. 180 and 182 King street. west. Doug)" & Chambers. 85 Yoagd street. File. er & Bond. 88 Yonge street. D. Sum". Grand Opera. Jethro Worden. Grand fligit House. Gepttte Proctor. the Buy roe Hotel. G. H. Briggs. Brigg's House. Toronto. James Lennox. the Library. Mrs. H. Hayes. 156 and 140 Bathurst street. Mrs. H. Collins. MO and 442 Queen street west. L. J. Hewitt. 321 Queen street west. Allies 8: Curtis 296 Queen street west. John McGee, 240 Queen west. Sarah A. Crawford, 316 and 318 Front street west. "II-ll] "cm", W VI 05': A'L'llhclv EDI UUL. W. McCt1tchoott, 8O Colborne sweet. W. Glow. Turtle Hull. 60 Colborue street Jomph Taylor. 31 Colhorne street. J. Vegan, 122 Adelaide street out. W. Lush, 66 Jarvis street. Emaney & Mallctt, 172 King east. James Nealon. 197 and 1991 mg street east. E. A. Jones, 1.27 Queen out. Charles Ayn, Mono street and Eastern avenue. - - _ - - Mrs. Elizabeth J. Booth. m Queen street out. Robert. Melbourne. 644 Queen street out. Joseph Laycock. 460 King street east. John Simpson. 472 queen street east. James Stineon. 321 'arliament street. Robert J. Fieldon. 383 Parliament street. Albert Verrnll. 201 Gerrard street can. James Tidoy, 164 Wilton avenue. John O'Neill. 68 Oak street. Thus. M. Lee. 42l Gerrard street. John J. Burns. 332 Kim! east. John Evans. 284 Kitut street, Francis MQGarry. 200 Front east. w. J. O'C6nnor. 252 Kina street east. Patrice O'Connor. 24t King street east. John Beer, 525 "iig't/i',tyd west. George Clarke, 390 'ing street west. H. B. Clarke, cor. King and Tecurmsetlk John J. Doyle. 609 King "we: went. " M. D. White. 682 King street west. John 8tormont, 60 Straclmn avenue. Mrs. N. Robinson. 1068 Queen street west. Geo. A. ltos'uttch, 547 Dundus street. Mrs. E, Burke, I46 Niagara street. George licauclmmp. 32 Niagara stree' P. Keith. 1C6 Slu-i'bournc street. W. Jt.Aingham. The Hub. street. Yonge. Din A. Smith, 300 Queen street cast. v. T. Hero. Mt, Queen street west. Geo. Arno. 741 Venue street. J. H. Geek. 215 Yonge street. w. Greenians. 175 Turaulay street. Chas. Brown. Arcade. Henry W. Power, 521 Queen street west. John A. Denney. Bloor and Bathurst streets. E. Williams, 62 Bnthurst street. T. Kennedy. 571 King street. Matthew ltonan. 1008 Queen street west. 1'hos. O'Neiil, corner Bloor and Duihrin streets. Wm. R. Allen, Queen and Bellwoodl Itreets- G. Wilkson. 153 Yonge street. Fred. I'. Mullen. Wellington hotel. 0'Donohoo & Doherty, Club Chembere. York street. John Cuthbcrt. R. hissclte. Empress Hotel. George Davis. 391 Bloor street. John Shannessy. 258 Yonge street. Chas. Walker. 81 Hay street. Theo Brena. 99 King street welt (late Stene- land's). Alex. Wood. 152 King street West. Ellen Fitzgerald. corner York and Adelaide streets. Susan Quinn, 92 King street west. M. Kenchie. 30 King street west. John U'Connor, IM Simone street. J. Maloney. " Jarvis street. John Wilson. lil York street. B. Dandy, 14 Frances street. John O'Connor. 113 George street. Fred. Wright, 118 Queen street west. . John O'Lehrr, 104 Queen street east. Slum-s o'Halloran, 99 Jarvis street. Malcolm Maetarlane. 77.9 Jarvis street. Harry Kcoble. be Jarvis street. Henry Lemon. 158 King street east. John McCatrery. 187 King street east. A. -M._0rpin._48 Church street. base our trade merchandise as lo men. and that we declare the erred by The World newspaper to _ T without foundation c-- Ai aymond. 515 Wilton avenue. John cGenn. 10 Esplanade street. A. J. '1lymon, 1 Church street. a; McGreevy, 12 Market street. m. Peterson. 1 George street. Alfred Oxford, Black horse hotel. It. Vernon. Royal hotel. Jenn B. Avis. 2thWerttt, Market street. hsfiirttisjiiir,rtfiv9sjiy.ttrket atroc i. E. J. Reilly. The Senate. 76 Church street. J. J. Shipman. 56 Adelaide street out. M. Ochrade-r, 54 Adelaide street east. Margaret Mchrron, 17 Queen street. John Elliott. Elliott House. Wm. Hopkins, 572 Church street. 'Nos. O'Uonnell, 44 Adelaide street, out. William A. McKay, 144 Davenport Road. Richard Lennox. 803 Yonge street. John Cook. T89 Yonge street. 'l'liomun Landon. 666 Yonge street. Henry Warren, 493 Youge street. H. A. Layton, (Her Howrll. Francesco Glionna. 136 Chestnut street. Wolstan E. Riley. 11 Cat Howell street. James Chambulm. 134 and 136 Shorbourno H. E. Huirrtes, The Criterion. Mutt Evans. 57 Jarvis street. James melcy. 21 Jarvis street. n. H. Reid, 94 Front street east. John Holderncss. Albion hotel. Leslie & Charlton. St. James' hot. Frank Wismer. Crosby Hull hotc U. G. Harris. International hotel? Joseph O'Hara. Continental hotel. Albert Meek, 56 York street. James Mcuinu. 102 Bay street. li. Morgan. No. 10 Jordan. H. M. Pierce, M. Charles', Yonge street. Hislip & Pierce. - vlohn F. Scholes, Athletic Restaurant. 185

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