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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 26 Feb 1890, p. 3

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Mr. Myth. after giving the Minister of Agriculture a pointer. us he called it, on con. ductingn Model Farm. said that he was in favor of the resolution on certain conditions. Mr. Birth then took his hands out of his pock- ets an sat down. .- - ._....._ .. ....._ u... "u u- m luv-van. Mr. Armstrong set forth tho claims of Parry Sound. mun-mining that it was ennnently suit. at?.l.? for u Modellitrtu. ___-__. ---v uu-Illx-ln v| IIIU a.hAMoW7. Mr. (Yonniee had no doubt that any measure having top its object to increase the receipts ot farmers should receive the consideration or the House. There was room fornuothor Model Farm in Western Unmrio. and that was in Algonm. lie hoped." the Hovernmt-nt contem- plated the ctttaUllshment of more Model Karma, Algo'nu's claims would not he overlooked. Then tttr' iiGrifi.' Fa and put in a good word for Victoria, and the House laughed, but thy.toelrer. wnsju earnest. __ """'W'r -_- -.._ My"... ...... In tumour! of his motion Mnlmcl maintained thatllmuuolph Agrieulturnl ('ollogo gin-o n stimulus to agriculture of all kinds in the ho- Vince. There might be room tor (inferences uf opinion as to its Iunuugement. but than» could be none as to its intluonco tor good. It was only tair that. tho custom part of tho l'rovincu should be afforded tho advantages derived by farmers in the went who lived in close Proxim. lty tolhe Guelph Model Farm. He hoped to hear an autumn-Jon of opinion on the question trey the tumors pt the House. Respecting the Hamilton Patriotic Volunteer Futuii-Nr. Gibson {Hamilton}. MODEL FARMS. Mr. Leesmovod the following resolution l--. That the establishing of well-conducted Pro- Yincinl model furnish or grout advantago to the farming interests of the country. and this House ttot/tro, to draw the attention of the Gov. ernment to tho advisability of such a Model Farm in the eastern auction of the Province. so that tho farming community of that part of the l'rovim-onmy have the nine henotlt as those t1'tfuiiytry'yCtho w.estoyy tytrt. A - - I To amnion-Into" the debt. of the Town ot ', 1munpttm--Nr. Chisholm. _ To%ilt"urhr%riir/p'i;iit"Gii of the City of Ottawa to issue dobchtures for Waterworks pty.TrosetsrrMr. Bronson. C'iCGiiitio"iiu1i%."pCiittion of the City of Ot, lawn to issue debentures to tho amount. of '8,000--Nr. Bronson. V To incorporate tho Town of North 'rorontty--. Mr. Gilmour. Respect!" tho New York Life Insurance o.fl"l/l1'fi-'ll)ir'. ("hum :llaunillom. To enable the Corporation of my City of w. Thomas to issue Debentures for " aterwovlts--. Mr. lug: am. , Hamming curtain lands vested in Highne- tor of Chrisi Church. Httmilton--Mr. Gibson (Hamilton). _ Rosvcctlng St. Andrew's Church, Ottawa-. Mr, Bronson. F Respecting the iiamhtin (vies-Light Company .-Nr. Ins-{er I To ontm " nm r_.u..-....ot.,.. ..r on... our n! Go After the six o'clock adjournment the Home rave upthetirst half hour of the sitting to private bills. The {allowing bills passed the Committee of tho whole House and wuro re- ported. to be read " third time to-morrow :-- lleswctitng the City of Bcllovillir.-3tr. Os- trom. To incorporate the Town of Little Current-.. Mr. Lyon. To amend the Act incorporating the Village of Tilbury ccntro-N r. Balfour. SECOND Hummus. Tty! following bills received their second reuding H- To consolidate the debt oftho Town of Oriilin --Mr. Dun-y. ' llrspvclinu Itvdrtw 163 of the Village of Nor. w.iyh--s1te. Mgliuy. _ _ _ - lion. Mr. Ross diuronl said that thorn was tt recognised way of securing information on the auditing :vstem of the Government. Mr.Wood w". himself a member of the Public Accounts Committee and he had but to make tho request. to have the auditor come before the Committee and make a full explanation. in {not such an cxulmution was made " couple of years ago. The motion titmlly pusscd without opposition. and. it bell. by this time six o'clock. the House lion. Mr. Hardy said it was impossible to do. vise a system that would entirely remove tho necessity of reaming cotmdence in somebody. It could not be done. lie hmlself was doing his best new to devise n system of checks that should he emu-live. but ho could not duvise any as offecgi'vo'qs he y:i'shed, thop: "light, be. dig}, Mr. Wood (Hustiugs) thought the Home ought toshow more of tho Provincial system of auditing than it dld. Tho auditor was the nppolnteo of tho Home. and the House should [gain possession of trdurmation as to what he Mv. Comma denied that Dulmnge horn the character given him by Mr. Manor. His hon- esty was never (mentioned by those who know him intimately. and so fur as cumming in voli- tics, Dulnmgo never even out A role in East- ern Alumna. "is irregular habits had com~ Jug-pea} put a very fewyegrs mm. the Provincial Government was FGiir' tr: eponslble for the athir. which Mr. Hardy Admitted. Mr. Meredith then proceeded to make a general attack on the bookkeeping: system of the Government. which he declared was such that iutiuitely larger defaicatxona might. be committed. in the Department of the Crown Lands especially, and remain undia- eovcred for years. In fact. husaid, connivnnce on the part of a few of the oniciale of that De- lmrtment would enable. such oft1citus to lob the 'rovinee of emu-Inns sums. Hon. Mr. Ross (Huron) explained ttriefly to tho House the system of Pruvineinl checking and auditing, which he insisted was fully sum. cient to prevent such disasters as Mr. Meredith suggested. _ - -- Mr. Gland? ceitsiirod' iiG VEé'venunont tor permitting Duimago to go on collecting money wyuhottttuttytt!y. _ M'r. Martel- reiterated hls statement that Dulmnxe was nppoiuted us a reward for politi- cal services. Ho charged that Dullnuge was very irregular in his habits for Mum" yours. TIso member tor Muskoka argued nnd stroke as it tho Unverntm-nt were rcaponsiblo or.. not htgyingtbc gm trf prtTc_ttts., A 'Mr. 1ti't"irttiotl, iii the ulna} that tht )omimon'u ttriitiiditGiiGiiGuGGiN 315.133 hi ctryrrlly.tttcd, _tttrttirts it] the_tqrrltory. Mr?MERE{iii--63111311353.'5}"1~'e_fi|'arkinfz that I', f,',Tviry8nt.Govt,ttyyear, .w?" Avila}; rf-. PRIVATE HILLS. b"" _ .....,.t . Hou. A. M. Ross was glad to hear the praise bostowul on the Farm. but: he felt that the Minister ot Agriculture wasJustifl'ul in resent. iug the unjust criticisms of home of the opposi. tion. These writicisxns Were for years directed towards showing that the. Farm Was not " self- uttatuining institution. he was ritzht in draw. ing attention to the methods adopted by the Federal Minister of Agrieulruro in making the salvation of sitesfur additional Farms useful for mlt'nncing tho interestsof his party. That was not done by Mr. lirnry, although it might be an easy matter for him to send out surveyors and inapm-tors. to make ditrerent sections ot the Province believe that ho Intended to estab- lish Mode; Furntain their midst. He hoped that in future, when discussions of agriculture would come up In tho House. there would be long pnrtluuhip displayed by hon. gentlemen lion, Mr. Drury spake of the danger of the criticiama of some hon. geullcmcn unusinzn loss ot co0itctto in the institution. At the same limo he did not object to cri:icisms that warn fair and reasonable and he was ready to tnectthem. A A __ . _ ._. . Mr. L'lancy said he could co into any 111le School mu] od more pupils than were to be lonnd at Lho Guelph AkrioltuvttWolloge, and. he insisted that it, was the feeling of the tar. men's generally that they bud received far less benefit than they had a rught to expect from tho t'oliexr, -- . , _ , A. . Mr. Crue.es thought there was a limor when the Chili-go Mid Form nt.:thcipii were ill-con- ducted. but he thought there could be no com- Rinint its to itn.ruyuwiemynt by the present 1inistcr of Agriculture. who, he thought. was the right mun in the right place. He hnd con- "dance in him. nnd ho did not like to hear men who were halt-farmers getting up and con. downing the institution at Guelph. M r. Clancy blushed a good deal at this unex- Bccted uttnck from his own side of the House, ut said nothing. Mr. Meredith indignantly protested against: thtrrtdurvmccs made by the Minister of Agri- culture in the umnuer in which the Experi- mental Farm is conducted by tho Ottawa Gov. ornnwnt. Whatovvreretlit was due to the Ott- turio Model harm. it must he remembered that it was vstablitupsd by tittsGovcvunusnt of John Sundtlcld Macdonald. lli- ventured to any that. to thejust criticisms of the opposition was due tho good condition in which tho tau-In now was. It wo in miepiornblo condition under the lion. Archibald AluKnllnr. and the evils were re: moved at tho instance of gentlemen on his side of the House. They Were all proud of the suceo.ssoftlatun, but it would be a mistake not to point out the weak points in its man- agement. It was right that the attention of tho country should bu drawn to the fact that it was not_:ts lnrgel) patronised us nought. - _. Mr. Mutual") in his usual strain was under- stood to advocate the establishment of a Model Farm for tho custom part of the Provitrce, and tho payment of more ultenliun to the raising of gap}! lyrtses 11..qu Prov.it!ce. - Mr. hues withdrew his rosolmion. and in doing so amid ho questioned whether it was wise to concentrate the ctforts and attention ot the Government entirely to one Model Farm. m, thought it might be. better to establish Farms on dili'orenl principles in different parts of tho Province.rHe admitted thnt the Farm at. Guclph WM "ell managed. though at the sumo limo he thought it f11lyient in some respects. Mr. Clancy said the Minister of Agriculture hm no room for so much self-congratu- lation. Thu Furm was not such a great success. M. had not succeeded in reaching the mussel at all. it was c:cereising Very little intiucnce on tho farming community gonerully. and any progress the farmms of On- tario haul made was irrespective of the Farm. and simply by reason or their own common sons-a mud observation. Mr. Clancy then taunted the Minister of Arrir-ulmrc with hav. ing introduced a porcupine Into the College last [our anghamed it to the Province. nic),'..'"""' did iisa sen tuaii"%irid Mr. rury. bi in the public accounts." said Mr. Clancy. "It's piteltfovk, not tooreupiue," said Mr. Ihyyttynidpreu.ertyl.laugittet'. _ mtg-be in the?!" of-Quiate District. 'r . T ury said that evening was the happi- est he had ever spent in the House. He re. membered the time when an attainments made to defeat the Government simply because of its establishment and conduct of tho Model Farm at Guelph. Now, the " sensible and solid" men on both sides ot the House said note word in opposition to the Model Farm. but rather wanted them all over. It a Model Farm were run on proper principles, and so that it might do good, it could not be expected to pat expenses. and he thought the day was gouoiy when it was to be discussed on such a basis. The Dominion "dttporimentat Farm did not pay expenses. Ho thought it would be gratifying to the House to see that the Govern- ment was this your only asking for a grant ot 83,000, in addition to the receipts of the Farm. to curry on the work of the 550 acres connected with the Uuelph Farm. Whether it could ever he made to pay entirely or not he could not say. licthought it improbable. Regard- int: tutuiltw etstublisumentsintru, United States, he pointed out, that in only two States of the Union was there more than one of such in- stitutions. The exceptions were Georgia and Mississippi. and in these States tho bulk of the Work was done in one, of the institutions. The polieythovu evidently was to concentrate the grant entirely on one institution. lie pointed out, too, that the Guelph Farm was not crowd- ed. and according to presenL indications would not be so for some time to come. lie would t not undertake to any that the time might not 1 come when more of such institutions might i not be advisable. At present, of course, the people in the eastern portion or tho Province had the advantage of the Dominion Experi- mental Form. lie was quite sure that" the farming community of the country should in thettettrfutui'u considernn extension of the Model Farms necessary to their interests. the House would deal liberally with them. The hon. gentleman congratulated the House on the increased importance that was being attach d to srciuntitie farming. lie had always been a friend of the application of science to agriculture to the furthest extent practicable. " was the only system under which farming in Canada could he made trrotitable, That Was why he had always believed in the Guelph Model Farm. and that was why he was mm inst": the House had come to approve ot the 'nrm. it

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