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Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 12 Mar 1890, p. 2

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Hon. Mr. dimly suw no object. In the bill, nor Any good purge" phat. could be gained by enacting it. '1 he ablio Lynda Act had worked well since 1842.. Ind was ninth:- to tho Domin- ioulaw.wititwhicualso no mun had been found. It was now about 10.15, but the House never. melons procoeded with public bills. The tirat taken up was that ot Air. (Ircllfhwn to amend the Public Lands Act. 'l'ho bi 1 ia simply this: --'. That section 15 of the; Public Lamas Act is hereby amended by adding thereto the follow. Ing words :-'And no gram. shall bu umdo under this soc-Hon for any of tho purpose» atoreuld until the proposal to make it has tirtst been submitted to and received the approval of ttt3tLottiylyuie Aysombir"' _ . - The original motion (of the adoption of tho bill was then declared lost on tho mun unblon. titws.--Mera. Biggnr. BlyLn. Clancy. II. Is'. Clarke (Toronto). Cunt" bi."'if/t/u") Uruuss.lNll. Fruuch. "autumn. l as. luduon, Ingram. Rel-nu. Lece, Manor. Neacham, Meredith. Met. ctle, Miller. Monk. Morgan, Oman). Preston, Burke. Smith tk'vonteniscq, Stewart 'i'uoluy, \V'lgitnoy. Willoughuy. Wood awnings}, W yno lt was ' strictly party vote. air. Chi-helm and Mr. Balfour Wore the only numbers of the Liberal party absent, and Mr. K. F. Clarke the only absent Conservative. Mr. Clarke and Mr, Chiqhqlny but pairgd. - _ YEts.-.Mutrsts. Allun. Armstrong. Awrer, Bullanlync. Uitltop,. Blczntd. Bronson. Cald- well, Clarke tWellington, Comm-e. l).u:k, Damon. Davis, Drury, Dryden. Evnmurul, Ferguson. Field, Fraser, freeman. (Eamon. uibs0utiiaututoul, Gibson "luroup, Gnlmuur, Gould, Graham. Guthrie. Harcourt. Hardy. Lays, Lyon. McAudrow, McKay. McLau mm. guc.ualuru.Mack, Mackenzie. Munich Aim-in, Nowat, Murray, U'Cotutor, Pncuud, Phelps. liaysido. ltobilhml. Ross (Huron). Moss (Mm. tilesti,tituitl11YorlO, Snider. sprnguo. tStrat. ton. Waters. wood "huuatl--e4. 7 Mr. Bannmyné. in a few vigorous. pointed remarks. slnowod that secrecy was no; the only gbjecg ortuy hallo}r nor tho, Tttltroltjept, save in so Intuit would prevent tho intimidation that could take Dim-u under a. non-ballot aya- tem. He return-ed to the Wholesale bribery and intimidation that had taken place bolero the present ayatezu was Introduced. and to its cu- tiro absence now, and warmly denied the in., sinuations ot the member fur North l'ert'u that extensive intimidation had taken place in that constituency. which ndJoined his own (South Perth). and that In Us". Why Mr. Hess hast lost a good "may votes. us he claimed. it there had been any ittritniittttartt there it land not been ptnetiaed by Befogmeljs._ -- A Mr. Matter continued on behalf of the Op- position. talking along the usual lino ot argu- ment. Halt tho iloalao paid him the doubttui compliment of vacating their some as boon as ho got on his feet. Tho Mouse had had enough of it and the division took place as won us Mr. Matter had tiurslsed, everybody feeling. no doubt, that he had satisfactorily diapooed of the mutter. Tho uivmlon took place on the '."six months' hoist" amendment. moved by the Attorney- 1a'qperal, 'ttyt resul'seil as follows _ Mr. G. B. Smith drew attention to some of Mr. Clancy's extraordinary statements. as. fer instance. that the oatlug of the election otiiciale were tiiuusy protons behind which they screened was: actions. and "gain, that. every Vote in his rt inzceuld boidenutted. lietheuxht the people ot Mr. Clancy's cotttttituetwy should be made aware ot the {not that he had made such statements in the House. They called, however. tor no refutation. The". was turned on their face. Going on to discuss the ballot system Mr. Smith showed tint Mr. Wood's tr.ll contained no mlwmtngo over the existing system, but would rather bring about the sumo smiling of tsallot-buses which bad takett place in Toronto on the occasions to which Mr. tiar- court hut reterred. The shining lights of the Opposition had now all spoken, and other: botidua, so we House had next. to listen to a speech from Mr. Hess. Lbs German member, who spoke gautl-xolupur- yy/r, but not brilliantly. in favor or Mr. Wood's bin" CeLClerke. the ear-Speaker. made on elective hnltvhonr speech. He dwelt on the fact that forty were are he bed written in the press in favor of the use ot the ballot. and when elected to the House seventeen or eighteen yearsugo he had worked still more actively on behalf of it. lie congratulated several members ot the oresi.tiuu,tdusn and now mom here or the Home. on their conversion to the ballot sys.etu. They were not all no favorable to it then. The experience of the existing system but proved it a success. Had it be'en otnerwise the Home would have heard of it before this. Even the introducer of the bill had failed to show any admitting: to be derived Irom the bill. and he feared t on in his (Mr. Wood's) advanced period of life he was becoming as radical in his leader-tnut he was seeking new worlds to conquer and that he was losing that steady Conservatism that had dis- tinguished him throughoLit his career. (Laughter and npplnvse.) [lo yielded to no man in hlsdosire tor III effective ballot. lie had seen scenes at elections that made him n believer in it. He had once even seen a mun shot down at an election, and for this and ol her reasonshe wanted the ballot. llut the ballot system that prevailed wee. he thought. in ovury way satisfactory tart t-tfectlve. and there was: no 'v,','.',',',','?,',',),, for Mr. Wood's bill or the cluuutos propose by it. Col. Clarke re- ferred to the iact that the system of Ontario Win the same that prevailed in the Unintd Kingdom. No fault was found with it there, and it wns an insult to the people of Ontario to any that they were not tit to be trusted with the same ballot system as the people of Great Britain {and lrelnnd. _ (Applauset - _ l Several members on tho Government side ot the House " once shouted that "they wow all independent on that side ot the House." and Mr. Uni-Ion made Mr. Whitney regret his tu. terruption by pointing out that his words showed clearly that he did not. at least, regard 1sipy.ttltaa an I.udepetd ént manner. _ . ntr.jvtiitnor--r thought you were an inde- pendent number. so my remark would not up. Plt to Foy. A A _ _ _ reply. lie was 'ttrttrlaerd,' therefore. that the member for Dun-m should have wondered that supporters of the Government hadnot taken up much of the time ot tho House with 39100th - _ _ PUBLIC LANDS ACT. __ _ .--..-- W... v. u nuuu m ardent] On the other side. it wus claimed don South is in such chm) Proxim centre of the only that tho pooplol cally the full benetit of the heavy ex of [be any without lhemselvm Parr the cost. Most, of the residents 1 South, it was urged, do business' in and on general urounds it Was rial-I Mr. Meredith's bill for tho numlgmnntion of London South with the, City of London (mine up for (lisctwsion und for final action this morning before the Private Hills Comnmtve. There Worn sovernl tlepututioutr-twi, in favor of the amalgamation coming respectively from Lon. don South and trout London City. and a third coming from London South in opposition to amalgamation. There were Fret-tent ruprcsvnting tho uL'ionists:--Messrs. K. t. Cameron. Thos. Alexander. John Marshall, It. J. Blackwell. hi. Parnell. J. S. Dewar, " . Row, J. L. Clarke. John l'ritchett, Mayer Tay- lor. and Aldermen Taylor. Manic. Jones. Gy:: rntt. Holmium and Anderson. The "nulls" were ruprvsuuted by Messrs. J. It. Minhinnick. Chas. Hutchinson. F. ll. Lays, w. J. Clarke. John A. Blackwell. George Show, A. Green. John Osborne, Adam Murray. J. Laney and James Brown. Mr. Mart-dim commenced .proceetttu,,rs with n brief explanation of the ob- jcct of the hill. Then tho "antis" had the ttoor. Mr. iiutchitr,on tit-tut an spokesman. und the arguments llanllt'td Against tho proposed unmlgumnuon wort-bx i.efifustiruoktsi-.Yiilit' the people of London South are ruliullud with their present position, and will accept amalgamation on no terms whatever. Last summer it was admitted the people of London South were embarrassed to know how they were going to providu thyutelves with water. and thin: in." a third coming in opposition to an rrcsenl r"pt'ctsentitir,r t. Calm-run. Thos. A R. J. lflupkwoll. li. 77'-.. yv-vll uuu JUL All)" before tho Private Hill: Worn son-ml deputatious- amalgunmtion coming re: tion _Sup:h and trout in I In: "Lama's report of Mr. Aubrey Whites cxuminuliou before the Public Ae. counts Committee, the misprint of " word nuuie him my that "the collection of moneys (by Mr. Dulmugcb was irregular. and the ot.tV amuse that could bu urged tor the irregularity wa.sthat things tteneraily in COHIH'UUUH with the "apartment "are in such It chaotic con- dition." Tho word "department, " should have been "district " or " disputed territory." What Mr. White guve the Committee to understand was that owinkto the territory beirut in gm- puto the licpurtmcnt had notdenlt with it like tho Post ofthe Province. and did not intend (hint: so Itntil it mu anally derided to bo ou, tatio's, and therefore matters in tho territory Were in a. suite ot chaos. LONDON sown! To in: ANNEXED. Mr. Meredith's bill for tho "eyf/,y,et,i,t? of Lourlun South with the Citv of Ln... m. mum. nn enforcement of these limits. This will do away Witlt the existing av" of associating very Flutnit buys with lads much olderund much more hardened in crinlu than lllnmwlvcs. Illugxstrutcs willlmve the option of sending huts" outside ofttae. limit now mulc.n1uuuly. 13 Lola. either to the Industrial School or to prison. 'l'lm bill will also twovidomoaus for {he tronspo-iu'on of a Ind from the Industrial School to the "Monastery in can he is found unmanageable In the former insmukion. l somewhat. to tho l,"dtrtig't of the House. Mr. Meredith or Mr. Craig ton, or both of them. I demanded a division. which, however, ru- sultod even worse for them than the tirst. The tight-ox Were 56 to JI against the bill. Tho list was the sumo as the that. with the addition of thenamo of Mr. Balfour lo the majority and the dropping of Mr. Miller from the ranks of Mr. Meredith to those of the Altorncy-Gcnorui. which gun- tho Crovcrnment , majority of 25. Then. "10.50, the House adjourned. REFORMATORY AGE LIMIT. The bill which Hou. A. M. Ross introduced to-dny touching the Ontario ttcforuratory is one of considerable importance. particularly in so for as it utfccts tho notion of Magistrates under the Dominion statutes. At present a Magistrate may commit to tho Itefprmatory lads under the age ot sixteen. Tho Provincial statutes pinto the one limit of lads that may ho committed at from 10 to 13, but In spite of this lads out-hie of these limits are frequently com- mitted and received into the Reformutory. the Provincial authorities not disputing the ques- tion. The present bill proposes to make 13 the minimum age at which buys will he rccrivod into the Provincial Iir.efurm9rprr, and it ts prob- able that. man Intention will be devoted to tho mtft?rctyttout of The 4i"aGrr-aenerat sold it was very queer that utter this law had been on the statute books tor halt a century tho member for North Grey and Mr. Meredith, too, should suddenly discover that it was so bad as they now declared it to be. Inc was it prott y eonstunt render ot The Empire. he said. and he had not noticed that Mr. Creighton had condemned this measure tn the columns of that journal. That might be accounted for by the {not pointed out y his hon. friend the Commissioner of Crown Lands. th-t the same law prevailed in the Dominion us in the Province. Viewing the law in tho light he now professed to. it. was strange, loo. Mr. Mom: said. that during all the years he haul sat in tho House ho had made no court to secure information on to the workings of the Act. The Attornoy-Gcncrul insisted, as Mr. Htudy hud done. that the, pvt-wilt law worked well, and that there "In no necousity for a change. _ _ had worked "oettirittTr' in its present shape,. and that. more Wu. therefore. no reason tor charming it. Mr. Meredith objected to the mentioning of tho Dominion law in connection with the subject. and endorsed the change. proposed by M'E'Uroigmon. - _ --- mu. The" tho "antis" had the ttoor. n'n um ucml an spokesman. und the s llanHt'td Against the proposed mm were b, iefifustiruo wtst--TLst the lontlon South {we wtiullud with their V .-_..... ... Althl In I Hun-11y. which wnuld solve the consultation with the City Coun- _ and Cor wince: "erettppointed Illil-inulh..u.u._-» 7- . _ Kwen. Haul-go Shaw, A. Green, , Adam Murray. J. Laney and n. Mr. Mun-dim commenced vim. l brief explanation of the ob- .u. we "envy eypenuituii, lhemsclvvs paying any of f the residents of London ed. m, inn-inn..- '- -. usinesg in tGFii7, was right and pro. , t 11-10 {Choir that this Ta

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