The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 25 Mar 1890, p. 9

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Pfi _ 4 C 3[6 with the way alr x Conservative party. How did they come . w yoroie: ragt 1 :'& ?'""i\: he -- * '| into Confederation ? They came in with the ~ f hee s ing \pf¥ +A J'& J" '." J te School system guaranteed, Next > ofhy+ ty anceige Separate S s Ez referred to the calling of f"l Rom':'l: p ause once n became a Separate | Catholic Convention in the City of Toronto, 8":0.] supporter :..':mld not witiulraw which was a lay move for the purpose of | except he bhad given notice during a certain l discussing the question of Roman Catholic 4 time in the year of his intention. So that patronage. _ His hon, friend told hiin that / // ' there wore on the statute book of the the Roman Catholics bud & right to aspire. / _/ country provisions more aimple and more Yes, they bad a right to aspire, rb'::;lt / liberal for the establishment of Protestant was very rarely that they got the It |-- Beparate Scuools than thero were for the sounded well on the Khu'orm:, it went well | establishment of Roman Catholic Separate at a convention, it had a very nice ring | Schoois. It was no answer to his u'l.'lglunont about it, but there was a great tfinwritten . shat it had uot been done. o was law that * blood is thicker than water," | not adducing it for the purpose of and where it was a inatter of competition saying that it had not been done, but for for _a particular post it would be the pur of showing that those who said ' found _ that _ in the end _ there Ro"fi%fi!fio enjoyed a privileze that were _ very iow -- officea _ for . those was molextended--to others were entirely | | who _ formed _ a _ religious mmom._v.' mistaken. He could not quite understand | ' Friends of the hon, gentlieman, when they , why Pr & te Schools had not : woent out into the back schoolhousee, were been mlofl it was that too prone to say the Catholies obtained too ! ' the Protestants were a largo majority much; yet even under this Liberal Govern-- in .. th@.ze--RProviac and _ that, _ con-- mont, desirous as they had been to do what C he Public Schools as they did, was right by the Roman Catholics,they had Bty should be quite contont to have them not been able to do it, simply because the as thoir syatemm. But there were cases | underiyinog influences hbad been against where Protvestant Separate Schoolis had thein, _ 'The next movement ofi any ' been established. ~ There were nine in the l consequence -- among the Roman Catho-- Province of Ontario, where, uutil two or liecs took place after the celection of three yearse ago, instead of the teacher '1871. The taking into the Government | requiring to be qualitied, the Trusteos could of Mr. Scoott, as Cominissioner of Crown | sign a certilicate without even the Lands, was looked upon hyalurgesoutionun' formula of an examination. _ But suppose certain concession to what they were asking. i there were no such statute as the one ho had Then, after that, a still further deviation | quoted, ho had for a loug time been unable from the ranks of hon, gentiomen opposite ' 10 understand why in the larger centres-- took place. He referred now to the for example, in the City of Toronto, where : platform _ laid down by the Orange-- th> schools were for the most part | men of this Province prior to these unnuxed--there had nos béen more Separate -- Rchool amendments, In -- the ; religious -- education _ imparted. "I here Grand Lodge of Wosteru Ontario that iwet i 'was no _ resson why there should at Htiamilton in 1876 a political platform not be. If thero was ail the tendency to-- was adopted, which is quoted in azother ! wards union of the Protestant denomina-- part of this report, He asked them, in the | tions which it was stated there was, he face of that platiorm, adopted by those wiho ; kLad thought how was it possible, where | formed the strength of the Counerntivui there were not Roman Catholic pupils, and | party then as they did to--day, whas might ' ' where the children of various Protestant | any intelligent Cuatholic be expectod to do denominations were together, that there : except to leave that party, -- lu 1876, there-- was not more religions education, aud lore, by reason of that platform, there left that it could not be agreed _ upou. the rauks of the Conservative party a iarge One corld not if he would, nor | | body of Catholics, . who joined -- the dare not if he could, close his eyes to the Liberal party and bud remained with fact that agnosticism anud atheism were it ever since, But they did not zl spreading a great deal in the world, and leavs, not even then. There even then that these did not come from the farm, the | probably remained more than one--hali the bhamles. or the township, but from the ) Roman Catholics following the hon. gentle-- great centres of the population ; and | man opposite. lu order to see whether would it not be m good thing, instead l their separation from him had come about of trying to abolish Separate Schools, | by perfectly natural stages, he pro-- | i the Christian Churches of this Province, ?pmed to take the elections of 1879' where fill:y have the opportunity. without | and 1823 and 1880. There were in any demur being made,to wore introduce in-- * | this , Province constituencies#in which to '-hr.l' Pll?).li',' Sf:hoo%n more of }he l'O"giOllS I the Roman Catholies PTG('OlllillulUd teaching which in the end might save a | aud he intended to take these constituencies good many irom drifting from Christiavity ; to demonstrate that in the election of 1879, into the paths of agnosticism or athseism, | evon after these amendments, the hon. gon-- or auy of the other isms to which tleman had as neariy as might be one--hali he had referred. 'The speaker next the Catholic vote. In Uundas his supporter Eroceoded to give the reszsons why the ,wns wlected (Mr. Broder.) #'The Roman on,. gentleman had entered upon this Catholic vote in that constituency was very erusade against Separate Schools. _ He did large, azsd they supported him thea not think be unceded to go further than his and -- still supported him, though friend's London speech to find the reason. uot usarly -- so 'lurge!y perhapa, -- now The hou. gontieman had hbeen in this cham-- as they did in the election of' 19379, ber during the time that all these various He said now that his only chance of suc-- amendiments had been made. If there | cess lay in driving ons the Catholics from was auything '»l'_l'- his '"Wdfl_ boast-- his party in the hope that ho might gather ed _ of more than mnother-- it was in suflicient of others to compensate him, or that ' tlne.re was _ not a single item more than compensate him, for their loss. of legislation that his eye bad not scauned ; Then Mr. Fraser returned to a review of the l.hl' be was there to put the d""-* over the results of the election of 1879, _ He showed t's and the crosses over the t's ; that he how in Essex North, in Glengarry, in Huron was always eager and at his desk, _and il'fiust, in Lanark, in Ottaws, in Peterbor. eould detect anything that was of a false ough West, in Prescott, in Russell, in Stor-- mature, and that any particular provision ' mont, in North York, etc., in sixteen con-- { rhat required amenument he could put it | l stituencies in all where the Roman Catholic right. _ Now, is must be a very great | vote is either in the mejority or forms a bumili@tion to hiin that those Beparate vory important factor in the contest, that ?'.-. 0+ a'jz'?l},llf:'f'-'!flg""' ';_us':\')-'.".hr'm,.;h H'm vote teu years ago, so far from being,«s was | ouse without Iits knowing botore what he now charged, a unuit in favor of the Labsrais, | might have accomplished. He thought he was, so far as could be gathered, much more | found the reasou for his upposition now in in 4avor of the Opponit?on thau.uf the Goy» ; what he ""'l.'."_'e""?" to to--«isy ag ernment. Ilu all these pl«zces the Roman ] i rHK ** soutp voTrE, r Catholic vote had either secured the elec-- and that, us the Roman Catholics wero | tion for Mr. Meredith of a follower sgainst him and in .fuvor of the Liberal 'Wi!f) was in --several cases a P('""": Governiment of Ontaric, he had uothing to | Catholic himeeilf, or had furnished a lurge ' gain from that set of the electorate, proportion of the support which the Con-- ' he sould afford to take such a ! servative candidate had secured. In Essex s course as would give him increased South Mr. Wigle had been returned to gup-- $ 'quppor' from Protestant recraits,. He (Mr. | port Mr, Meredith, and in Gluugnrry Mir. l-'rn'or) denied that thero was auy such MeMauster, oue of his warmest and mmost , thing, or ever had been such a thing, a a talented supporters, had been elected, both solid Roman Catholic vote in (this Pro-- of them receiving the bulk of the Homan Ivinee t in the . Dominion. . Even the Catholie voue, _ Mr, Legs lhad been returned | clergy were divided, and there had never for Lanark nominally is an Indepemdent, i been a time during which the Roman . though he seemed upon coming into the l Cntbolif (;'ou for ]uny lp:;ny ?\r pufl:- b;ul HMHouse to forget that ne had ever seen such been solid or nearly solid. _ Not only the s« j »» laity were dlvidod.y but the clergy woere :o::):.d":!';- vo':;g:"?g:h;;;. M":l"lodlil:l?. b;{? di'id?d in their politiu, and the Bilhopl too, had had the largest share of the ROMQI; also, just as they had a right to be. In the | Catholic vote of that constituency, In Of. old duys the Cathalics ware found support-- tawe, if the Roman Catholic voto ing Baldawin, and to--day the Roman Catho-- | c nat was not ing DBaldwin, an J in a majority, it was close upon it Unde lic allegiance to the Liberal party would I the M-nhoot{ Suffrage Act z: believed l: have been about as it was then had would be in a majority. This constituenc it _ mot _ been _ for _ this . Separate | sent a Roman Catholic to support MC School question, Is waswell known st the Ir. oooooooiiiiiniiiiimnimmnmimmanimmaaommmmmmmmmmmmmmet otaans

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