The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 25 Mar 1890, p. 12

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( of i -| !|m.¢!" o af -thdlt- ! wo. ! had -.a! e |! a | recognition they receiv 8 cardinul point in their political platform : thoss who hbad experienced the beuefib when they no?:d the .."u.'.hd the | that conld realise how imuch the gain \ Orange Lodges. is was their platform, wus,. There was not a single Separate . adopted at a mesting of the Grand Lodge of School supporter from one end of the coun» \ Ontario West, at Hamilton, at a meeting *) try to the other who would be willing to held on the 15th and 16th February, 1876, part with a single advantage that the and it was the platform of the hon. [gentle-- schools possessed on the grouud that the maun and his colleagues :-- teachers did not carry the certificates that Resolved, That, in the opinion of the Right other teachers possessed. (Cheers.) So WOnhl%lul G:rand Lodge, the time has arrived much for this part of the subject. He ob-- ;I;::-ent' eomop:::u qo: t;{" g..ln.:'r.l'l wn'l:':l:: jocted to the proposal to impose the ballos ucite in one unl:»}Ivlh,:::l Phalanx in order upon Separate School supporters for various to stop the encromathments of the Romish reasous. (One reason, as had been well point-- Hierarchy upon the body politic of the coun-- \| ed out by the Minister for Education, was 'e:l'x'--'md that the foliowing platform be adopt-- | that the compnisory adoption of the bailos Unswerving and untiring allcgiance to the | would be a vioiation of the Consticution, Mother Country and British Conrection. 1t was only necessary to lmllx' at the l",'(s:cem f:)":&fl':ll'al;"t;lml:'o'ney trom the public purse ' of election in operation at the time of Con-- P K i nose federation tousinthiuvhan very body would' "2'0:;'?0"3;;5::':",!.0 lTchools,l but.r frlelo secular mit, an intringemen « 4) Taxation for all; taxation of a roperty rl:.;i;:c:;::..toa;d u&{cu'.pt to do awar ::f::'.lb\)'..filqi-_gi"" bodics vpon its m.'-' .fl';..? with the privileges that ,t!'° Rome : (5) The opening of,a)l public institutions in C .tholics enjoyed umder Confeleratior, the ll:qml.brel'i'giou: z{:nlhc{h\u»«l-. to public in-- Lut there were oiher ..&ons wiy spoction by Governn¥ent officials & s & r % he objected, | why the Rem n Cathoe _# Thntitshallbe the suly of the County minority of this Province °"3°f'°'l' to 1 ,., a general election or o:ther election taking introduction of the ballot. ** Y ou canuo!, place, eiiher for the Local or Dominion Parlia-- the hbon. gentlemenm proceeded, ** disasso-- """f'"l%,';'l"g':"'l" l,tcr')zfi!:t't|fllltl"f ll'a\c};l:nn:'luln.l:i ciate it from the discussion outside ; T n rtr .o':'mnu".' 'and ':Phtcfn u: call n '35-".',- :nosa'w: canunot dissssociate it from my .h°"- f'_"'"d 8 before the day of polling, and if neither of the London speech ; you cannot disassociate it candidaies will support the said platform tl;u: from what was contained in the platiorm l:f :'lus:n:llc L'fi.:::fl?:u of the County Lodge to bring vem 'gontl.on'\enmo'?';:os'l::.; tx:: :I'lnonv:'r the The hon. gentleman end his colleagnes ;,"::;"o ;: i:ooflonli" tm th-- **--==rchy of were under the power of the Orange Lodges, ronawe +m and he (Mr. Fraser) did not think the day * £ 4 m'/# had yet arrived when the Roman Catholic j M revenp omm es A minority was to be controlled and raled ) Roman Catholie Church ; that it is anmd legislated for by Orangemen. The | . Jensive to the clergy of that Church; that Roman Catholics resented this measurs as aun ' it is oflensive to the laity of the Churon in interference with their rights, as an insult to that it nsinuates that ouly under the ballot themselves ; they objected to it because | could their rights and privileges be wain« they did not require it, because it was pro-- ' tained. (Cheers.) The hon. gentleman, in posed to thrust upon them legislation that order to make more studiously offensive they «id not ask for, and they opposed "[ what was already oflensive enough, m«de because it was ultra .vires. The Roman | the insinuation that the laity were afraid Catholic minority didn't propese to stand | fo exercise 'h?" u"d"".""" rights on calmly by and see cut away, chip by chip, account of the improper influence of the the whole of the Separate School system. clergy. '! say there is no self--respecting If hon. gentlemen opposite could have their Ro!nuu (.uth'ohc in this P"'V"":'. of _ On-- way, if they could effect their purpose, the tario who will uot feel keenly the insult to gusrantees given under the British North hl.' clergy. It Tt & studied oflonce. to the America Act would be only a sham, a delu laity. It says in effect that we Separate sion and a snare. HMe had a few words to Behool supporters are slaves, bondsmen and l say with reference to the necessity tor giv-- serfs--not aliowea to control our l ing notice. It was sometimes said in the mction--not allowed to have our own wishes Aeuntry that the amendment of 1879 was in the election of Trustees,. It "'?' this be- introduced to do away with the necessity cause forsooth in the City of Toronto ns for giving notice. There never was any such certain localities the. priost hsppoue(.l afwe intention. Those respousible for the amond-- exercising his legitimate influence in the ment proclaimed almost from the housetops matter of elections. (Cheers.) The Roman that it was necessury for Separate School Catholies were asking for this legisiation, supporters to give notice that they were and I promise that they know much better such. _ Before the la«t geoneral election the what their own requirements are than do Attorney --General sent anopeu letters to Mr. the gentlemen opposite or any other persons Milligan showing as clearly as he possibly outsile their Chprch." "".' there, Mr. ] couid that the law still required notice on F"".r asked, a single denomination in the | the part of any body intending to become a Province of Ontario who would not resent | Separate School saupporter ; and tnat if he such legislation as this' Put the members wanted to again become a Public School sup-- R of the Methodist persuasion or of any other porter he had to give notice. He (Mr. 4 denomination in a position similar to that EFraser} during the last general election held of the Roman Catholic minority, would the sreveral meetings, and at every one of those House _ dare to force upon them such meetings he put it in the plainest language aiterations of . the law _ unless they he could that there was no such thing as were asked f_or'.' 1i . hy _ party becoming a Separate School supporter with-- proposed to abolish the privileges of any out doing #o. The amemdiment of 12879 was religious denomination, that do'n(_umnn'n'un intended simply to provide for the proper would be found a unit in opposition. 'The machinery for the elections, more particu-- hon. gentleman had jaid down the rule larly as regarded municipalitios, when he appeared before the electors of the Mr. Meredith--Whby did not the munici-- City of London that the Romaun Catholic nlities act * | minority, because it was a solid, compact P Mr. Fraser--Theo hon. gentleman had political unit ruled by the Hierarchy, should given quotations -- showing that notice be regurded as acommon enemy, and where had not been given in some municipali-- (hore EL ® gomimon. enemy people were ties since 18379. . He would tind that prior ustified in uniting against it. If this were to 1879 there was no notice given, | He (Mr. , then, according to his Aargument, svery Fraser) had made diligent inquiry, and igious denomination that united in de-- withough there had been Separate Schools fonce of its rights should be treated as a in existence for 30 years there were no i ucmonemy. It V{oulcl be the- e Neparate School notices given. HMe was Teay y Plbuesl maide, on the principle bound to say, if he toid the truth, that there ought to be ounly one University that . he -"'.wr himselft gave i in Outario, to nbolmh' the YIClOl'luNUlll-- written notice that he would become versity or the (Queen's University at Kings-- a _ Separate _ School _ supporter. Even T0 ltek, may one suppose that these here in the municipality ot Toronto, and in p mlvonmc. weouid, bot stand ap as a unit all municipalities where Separate Schools w# d;'ni' thair vights; and wore* they to be existed, the authorities did not care a brass ",g'n e'l "t' .cnnu'uon en.el;ny t hi 'hfiy furthing whether the Roman Catholies gave 2:'!:':-"( fo t;"'"}.",e, Te tl:'u. smn.l- notice or not. They were acting fairly and of cgu'.,:. :'oid r::;zur::;,pu:"o:;:; legitimately although no notice had been would not find the Presbyterians united given. He would undertake to say that aguinst the political party at the next gen-- tmmlglwnt '()ulnrlo. until this lectlr!an ery eral election that attempted to infringe that | had been '""d.' not """".""' i Vagage vtgoru:(; right* (Hear, hear.) He wanted to know | opponents of Separate Schools ied why it was that a different line of action | themseives with whether notice '":{""en wus to be expected from the Roman Catho-- | or not. . The fact was "':' "i'" biprpant lic minority than would under similar eir-- | Catholic was a Sepurate Schoo l'"Pl;'"':hr' ecumstances be expected from a Protestant . but no wotice could be founs "l'n" 1 ( denomination. 'Their educational institu-- | Cierks of the municipaiities. On t ;{ol er tious were as dear to Roman Catholics as h'uu-l, _everybody who was not a ul'nll; were those of any other denomination to the Cutholic was supposed to be a supporter o members of their body. \When danger Pubiic Schools. The public ofticers rocofi; ussailed them was it not to be expected that nised this, He was not «prepared to *pea they would unite even more closely than for every municipality, but he would un-- th hbad _ done * . dert=ke to say as regaras the City of *¥ e ? So far _ as the l Conservative party was concerned, they Iv:uto that up to 1879, and _ even

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