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' ht m_ (besnt lacl P I.II prerogative that | mig ! had h'u':.f:nndg:nnn enough to make an : !onntud'y lead _ to _ the a@bolition ';'i inst a loman Catholic because | the -- Separate _ Schools. _ 'There I appeal against Was not this a bill he would refer to--that T he had not given noticl.' A I"Ifld geotle. one other h Igh ~School Trustess. . 'The ¢ !;';'.'.'.' ':::.::'{h:;d:::d .::fn: in a neigh-- gel::::fo glwolg-upp"w" s e was) $ ¢ borly'uld friendly way one toward "'°'h:: -- much concerned nbo.us thntb.b;:l. Itscw'l:::' 4 / / --that the Prot«unthmlgjoritv":idn::i'""" | u'evor rkec: :O_l; bzo[:'lil';lt';l' 1"8:':.3 thing, | n Catholics ga o | of us thought i B+ ; . ::ttg:.:'l.onfigo::'thei were vglunnn!! lll'lP' however, to interest them more largely ::: porting their schools, that was Qll that they | the High Schools, If this .Houuf \v'er;i f 4 concerned themselves about. _ They did not | opinion that the privilege given of e .°| 0 f § ask for the amendment of 1879. Asa mat-- | a Migh School Trastee as well as «. 8c l(l)o ter of fact, in 99 cases out of 100, probably Board 'sbould not, as ygeldlng tok poupy :f in almost all cases, the assessor was a clamor, cant and hypqcrl-y. be ta ;'! "-:iol); Protestant, and being a Protestant he knew | from the Separate Schools no objec i who the Public School supporters were. would be raised. At the same guno' e ukn ts t onl ut He| [ fies placdr Oppegiel J ty ition of affairs--he wou as did that, or 10 % r,::'_i'::ntl:umn himsel{--whether the state hardly likely to take away from the of aflairs was not practically that LYOLF Separate Schools n privilege that did no-- Roman Catholic, with very rare °"°°§"'°(')':l' body any harim. Molreqver. vyh:rug'er ::l::; was known to be a Separate , meno was a High School in exis ence supporter in the municipality within which Roman Cutli'nulic must pay taxes in support he reosided. of it, and it was thought t.hnf the power of | Mr. Meredith--1I have no knowledge ; I voting for the High School 'lrustoql would caunot say, 3 iuterest the Roman Cathotics more m'these Mr. Fraser--I say that thi:l w"'ul :: :,'; institutions, um:l the lgeugt pLov':t: x,th.azt nearly every case, 'This was the s they were right. 1e -- Proteatan ntfuir{ ""3'."'"' assessment law was passed mujvority of llliugcountry thought this should | in 1879. If they had the samo not be continued, by all means let it be regard, Le _ contended, to _ the in-- taken away ; but if the House decided to l'er"" of the Roman ("h"l,'c body do so he did not think it wouid be acting that they had for interests of the Wesleyan, in the best interests of the country, in the the Pl'"byu'l'i'fl-dth': B'Pt'l": bo;lyt:rn:l;): best i;lure.'sts of the Hflghubdwuls. or ::; Church ot England, they would not atte m the best interests o 1e cause such |°Ri3|"i:" as 'hi'-yfm' they knew it higher education. There was nothing the would not be ;o{;nu;:l by th.o vast :nm:" Roman (é"tI:mlxi" he(id.fmore"denr than (t]he affected by it. Mr. Fraser then, at con-- Separate Schools, and if the House parsed a aiderable lyenatl;, lq:ou"tl f:'ol;ltt.be :"{'\:::' 3{ |..: ubolishilng lt.heu{' l:herc v;:»uld rltiil lli,c: Tius Guogs and The Mail of the de Separate Schools. What, after all, « Committee when the Act of 1879 was before I thfy get towards their support? They got the House. 'The report read :-- about $18,000, about 60 cents for each pupil ** Mr. O'Suilivan immoved an amendment in the Roman Catholie Separate S}:huols. to the bill providing that every Roman What was that amongst them ? His hon. Catholic should be deemed ipso f"""_' friend had shown that in this small contri-- a _ Separate _ School _ supporter, _ and bution there was some connection between that notice in writing should be re-- Church and State because there was religious quired _to be * Ki"""' by h. lR°'""" | teaching -- in lt.he nchm{:ls; hhut lif there Cuatholic rate--payer before school taxes was x -- violation _ o the law in levied upon l'i'pP{"'P""-V should be '""'""1, 'this respect as regards thoese schools in aid of Public Schools * 'Jl'ixo rei)lort 'flf.. there was an equal vioiation lr:o E;rdas llhe his (Mr. Fraser's) speech read :--*" He de-- Public Schools were concerne« Indoubt-- ;irod( lthsht not:»in;lg:ll;flfldd'PPe'"' :';'i?l': odlysthere wns.religiouub(cnchingl given in Act which might claimed as unconstitu-- the Separate Schoois ; that was the reason tional. The fillld&l"fllt*-l principle of the for lheli)r existence. _ If Roman Uatholies Scpau'nt? School lwn tl]mt ilt) w:(x)s'sncl;_n"fl- did not intend to give tll;oir chil«lrel; re!ilg_i- sive." It was clear that Dr. O'Suilivan ous education they would not :as: for this thought that notice was still requisite, and | system. -- It was, {o far as religion was con-- that he (Mr. Fraser) did not gay anything | cerned, so far as the great hereafter was to the contrary, _ 'The report of the debate concerned, that they asked for this Separate proceeded. s School system. _ As reguards the connection *'Mr. White was somewhat saurpris-- between Church and State there was just ed _ that tlhlo Conlmiaaioml:r of 'l'ublu; as much of it in the caso of thle one class of Works should discourage the motion o schools as in the other, He was sur-- the hon,. member for Eglt Peterborough. prised that the Protestant bodies did Me was not sure that it required an amend. not unite and have a groat deal ment to the Assessment Act, and if neces-- more religion taught in their Public Schools sary he suggosted that the consideration of than there was now, where nobody's con-- the present bill shoul1 be posiponed. In victions could be in uny way endangered. "nuy case he submittod that there was noth-- He was talking now of the great centres, 'ug asked for but what was fair and rea-- where there were Roman CGatnolic Schools, | ouable and he believed the House was pre-- and where the Public Schools were attend-- pared to grant it. 9 ed by exclusively Protestant children. -- He **Mr. Sinclair said the idea of allowing was surprised that there was not more re-- | any _ person to support the SCPHDN ligion taught in the Public Schools in such , Schools if he llwished dlimpl{. ma?ut places l.:mu tfhero was to--day, He asked that rsons who cared nothing for the pardon of the House for aaving de-- the Pri'l)lz'Ple would support that school .uinrd it so long. He had onduvor!d to when the taxos would be l'S;""'i', ; M_" ; put the case on behalf of those for whomn he Crooks (who was the M'.'""",d )t¥ ""l" | epoke as fairly as he could, and he hoped tion at the time) said this woul .°'°v'f"° thle in doing so he had not given offence to any Poharate School system into a rival of t A class, He concluaed by expressing ths hope Public Schools. _ The British North Ameri-- | that the time may never come in the Pro. , ca Act pr'ovnlod that existing privileges of vince of Ontario when the people would Separato School supportsrs should be con-- be called upon to deal with the question 'tinuec'l, but this amondment wouh!' mu'ko of the abolitrion of the Separate qSohooll. ' the Sopsruto' School compulsory. -- The His hou. friend had put the case before the | principie of Separate Schools, Mr. Fraser 1pul»lic in three or four general election continued, after reading the above extracts, | and he had failed every gme sud he (Mr. whether Protestant or Catholic, was simply Fraser) would venture to nre:licz that he permissive, and he was not would find the same thing true on this prepared to go so far as to guarantee any occasion. _ He hoped _ the gre't | Pro. support to them. His contemlo'n was that | testant majority of this country would not not only should every Koman Catholic be Phe led by hy ocrisy and cant, nor allow regarded as a Separate School supportor, the ship mP State to pas; into the bus t_h-t.'he should not be regardod as a , haunds of any man who was willing to give Public School supporter unless he guve | up the opinions and convictions he had ex-- | notice,. He was only in favor of an aiter-- pressed in former days in order that he ation of the law so far as the change was might gain _ possession of "the Treasury required by public necessity. It was nec-- benches. --(Loud cheers,.) essary to provide some machinery for dis. * tinguishing _ between _ Roman Cutholic School supporters and Public School supporters ; and the machinery which was | provided in the bili introducna by the i Minister for Education was the simplest and the most fair. .He denied that there had ever been a single utterance of his made which could be construed into a con-- | tention that the Separate Schools should be ' compuisory ; and the hon,. gentleman must have misunderstood the position he {Mr.' Fraser) had taken up when he said what he did in his speech at London, 1f the House were willing, and thore was no objection by any body to the provision, that every Ro-- man Catholic should be compelled to be a l Separate School supporter, he would oppose I