The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 26 Mar 1890, p. 2

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oi or was bound to go to the Clerk, and should not be granted. . ; the binding was more rmgorous now than| ing, the speaker said that if at any fi"l" before. Mr. Meredith's bill, too, threw was proposed to abolish Separate Sohoo":. everything on the Clerk aloue, The prin-- then,should his}party support that proposa}, ciple of the Government legislation vras that he would have no hesitation in opposing his the assessment roll was final. The Clerk had party on that issue. The primary eud of to take that, und that was all he had to do all education, both Separate and Public with it The Court of Revision aud the School, he hald to be the giving of a lgc!:lnr County Judge and the Municipal Council education. Not that he opposed religious were the authorities dealing with the instruction in the schools, but he doubted roil after that. Mr. Clauey bad in-- much if the aid sought by those who desired stanced the case of those who might be it had been compassed. He conllder.ed unable tq read. When the assessment notice that it might be. well for all. parties was sent them they generally went to their C if religious instruction were put aside, and neighbors, and very soon found out what | the children of all could attend the Public i the' assessment noticeo contained. There Schools, where they could refrain from at-- | C s tendance on the religious exercises, In was no argument in that contention. In concluding this part of his address, Mr. regard to the practice pursued in the west Clancy said be could not see any °bj?°"°" there was no fecling such as the gentlomen to the granting of the bellot, and did not opposite tried to work up, and there was believe there was objection on the part of no trouble as to the giving of notice ; the his Roman Catholic friends, and when the two parties got along together without time came he would have pleasure in sup-- |rivalry, and ninety--nine out of a hundred porting it, He then discussed the bill hay-- of the Roman Catholics were supporters of ing reference to the qualification of teachers, the Separate Schools where there were any. whom he considered should be certiticated But what had never happened before in like the teachers of the Public Schools, | his riding was that at the last election In conclusion Mr. Clancy expressod disap-- | for trustees he had found that this question proval of the bill by Mr. French withdraw-- | had arisen because of the agitation raised ing the right of Separate ,School §Boards by the members opposite, and steps were to send delegates to High School Boards, being taken to establish Separate Schools but repudiated the statementof hon. gentle-- where they had never before existed. In men opposite that the Roman Catholics regard to the question of the ballot, while would ceaso sending their children to the he,would not oppose an optional ballot if High Schools if ropresentation was not al-- there were an agitation for it, he could lowed them on the Board, not see his way to make the ballot compul-- Mr. Balfour followed Mr. Clancy, He sory in Separate School elections while it represented, he szid, m constituency in was optional in Public Schools Con--' which there were twenty thousand IPro-- tinuing his remarks Mr. Baifour was ex-- teatants and five thousand KRoman Catholics. pressing lis decided approval of the Gov-- He had never had more than a third of the. ernment policy on thess questions when | Roman Catholic vote since he had repre-- Mr. Meredith interrupted him by saying : , sonted the constituency of South Essex. l **I thought you wore not one of the There was one place, therefore, where the | | faithful any loni;er. s Roman Catholic vote was not solid for the \__Wetl, said Mr, Balfour, I may just take Government. Now, Mr. Clancy had accused | this ocension to tell th-e hov, gontleman that the Minister of Public Works ot assuming I come here this session not bound by any the right to speak for the Roman Catholic party lines to take any P'"'WJU]_"I' course of minority, Well, if Mr. Fraser had as-- action, but I say I have the right to take l sumed this position, was it not a position the line I am taking to--night, because it is | that the leader of the Opposition had a position in which I shall be supported by ' l long given to -- him * Because _ Alr. the great majority in my constituency, I Claney -- had not spoken -- on -- behalf That is my position on this matter, what-- | | of the Roman Catholic minority, was that ever it may be in regard to any other public .' any reason why Air. Fraser should not do questions that come beforo the House. eo * Why should not Mr. Fraser speak on (Applause. ) | bebalf of the minority ? Where could they At this point, it being six o'clock, the find a more eloquent or a more liberal advo-- Speaker left the chair. sate of the Roman Catholic minority of the The House, on resuming, went into Com-- Province than the Commissioner of Public mittee on several private bills, Mr. Har-- Works * 1t was incorrect that Mr. Fraser court in the chair, 'These having been hbad spoken with heat on the preceding disposed of, | 'evening. Ho had spoker without excite-- Mr. Baltour, continuing his speech on ; ment, and had presented his case with the Separate Schools question, refterred to | great _ fairness _ to the _ members of the question of certificated teachers of Ro-- | the House and to the country. (Ap-- man Catholic Schools. _ His hon. friend | | lause.) Continuing, Mr. Balfour said he opposite was the last man ho should have | ' had heard it justified by the bon. gentle. thought likely to bring forwara the propo-- ! nan opposite when the hierarchy and the sition regarding these teachers, for ho knew riesthood were supporting them, but when ; the value of the work of these teachers. hey supported the Government it was all : Should that bill become law its effect w rong. 'ihe hon. gentleman had said he was | would be to greatly hamper these schools it responsible for 'The Mail, but ho re-- | and unnecessarily increase the cost of the membered that during the last election \ mmaintenance of the schools, and the burdens copies of The Mail had been purchased and upon these were already sufliciently heavy, sent by thousands into the Protestant se« The peopie beionging to the religious Orders tions of his constituency, but nos one copy of the Church were willing to carry on these into the Catholie sections. HMe taunted the schools at low, in many instances merely Opposition _ leader _ with his froquent nominal,salaries, and they turned out pupils change of front, and said there had been | * who could hold their own with the scholars no strouger No--Popery cry than that taught in the Public Schools. Therefore set forth by The HMamilton Spestator when he thought the hon,. geutieman ought to on the morning of the last election that have stayed his hand, -- Having twitted the joarnal said the Conservatives did not want member for West Keut with having at last e1ny Catholic votes, The hon. member for mounted the Protestant horse, aiter soveral Kent had read an extract from "Ixs Grozsx, unsuccessful attempts, aud described the but had failed to disclose what sort of an great joy with which he now celebrated extract it was, -- He thought it was probably the accomplishment of the feat, Mr. Balfour some of the Conservative campaign litera-- provoked not a lictle mirth by his humor-- ture of the time, distorted to suit the occa» ous reforences to the speeches of gentlemen sion, _ The hon. member for Kent had said | opposite in raising the sectarian cry. 'Turn. that the Separate Schools should be im-- | ing to the spoech of the member for London, proved--that was the position taken by the he said that that gentleman seldom made Attorney--(icneral--but they should be im-- an oration without deriving inspiration proved under the provisions of the Act from the leader of the Government in passed prior to Confederation, and the Ottawa, and they were justitied in regard-- Government, during the years that he had ing it as the joint production of two great been a member of the House, had proceeded minds, The speech of the hou. gentieman along that line. Mr, Balfour here quoted deprecated the raising of a soctarian | from speeches by Hon,. George Brown show. ery, but he did not aiways practise ing the terms upon which the Separate what he preached, lle bad cirenuilated a Schools were tinally established. Mr. Clancy painphlet some time ago, not without con-- [ had dealt with the questions of the assess-- sultation, however, with Sir JohnMac-- ment roll, and be had quoted from some donald and Mr. Christopher Bunting, then | County Court Judges to show that the in-- a councillor of the party, entitled "F ets terpretation of the law by the Attorney-- for Irish Electors," which was intended to General in this respect was wroug. But inflaume the minds of the electors with the law on this point had been laid down sectarian prejudice. Iu 1883 he said few by the Superior Court Judges, and they men would cure to raise what was called agroed with the interpretation of theo a sectarian ery, yet a crisis bad arisen in Attorney--Genoral ; and the County Court which it was desirable the ery should be Judges would have to accept the interpre-- raised. The crisis was simply the Gesire of tation of the Superio¢ Court Judges. Mr. ; the Conservative party to get into office, Clancy objected to the present bill because | and vthey wanted to get the votes of the is would divide the work between the Clerk -- and the Assessor, and he siid the Assessor would nmot _ go _ to the Clork _ for the uames,. _ isiy such an argument Mr. Clancy showed he could have no practicul' experience, or_ else it was {

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