The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 4 Apr 1892, p. 3

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Mr. 1U.vitde,after referring to the Int oc. cuion on which the subject. wt" before the House. laid that his vote then had been w cunuuueu pencotul agitation; that than: gricVancen have Joni since tvon removed. and that by their remova the u;tuchment of tho whole people to British connection was hair pily natured and has existed without interrup- tion for the halt centmy which has since glared; that matters relating to the militia an to the defence of tho country now belong under tho constitution to tho Dominion Par. iiiamfnt fudge not call tor further considera- lnn nut i. A"..- tion biuiiiiaiiic, That while the grievances und Provinces Inshore for some yo 18S7leueorm, of tho people into that your. tho great mNurlty at tl the grievance» preferred [muting to continued peaceful agitation grievances haw 101:: since boon F that by their remov the tctach Whole people to British connect: pily restored and has oisted with tion for the halt cexmuy whit clawed: that manna. run-Hm- " ,,,,_'_- _.-....u.. nun-gnu. It won the House of Commons of Canada thet we: the proper Authority to be con- sulted in thin matter. Everyone knew that it wee the Dominion Government that had to do with the militil of thin country, and that this Province had no tuthorityto expend mane; upon the mili. tia, except in one or twotri ing matters pro- vided for bf the act. It might be said that u the troubles of 1837 were prior to Confederation, therefore it wen u mat. ter in which other Provinces was not con- cerned. but he pointed out, that notion had been taken by the Dominion Government with regard to the veterans of 1812. There wee no reuon why the Dominion Govern- ment-if it we: I proper thing to consider st all, and he would my that it we! not--. there woe no reason why they should not consider this matter in the lame wny no they had dealt with nutter- long anterior to the mutter: referred to by the hon. mem. C r- There were the Itrnngast reason: I this Home should not pull the resolut roposed, sud he In. sure that the um Ecru generally would Agree with him t it was in1sxpediernt to open up old cores. 1... "an" -' . - Mr. Gib§on therefor; mogul in 'unend. ment that ell the words after the word " that " in the resolution be struck out and the following substituted therefor F-. If the hon. member wanted to reward the volunteer militia of this country why did he pan over the volunteers of 1866? m did not menu to say that the result of that engngement W391 entirely tsatisfactory, or that A great amount of glory could be nttnched to Ridgeway, but he did my that if the volunteers had notbeen put upon the field as quickly he poulble, Mid if they had not met the enemy with promptneu nnd nlncnty, the Welland Canal might have been destroyed end incul- culnble mischief wrought. _ token: The ones thit had been cited were cues that might have been con- sidered in 1849 in the settlement of the rebellion 1oeaets---tUy were csses of indemnifiestion. That wss one thing, but the recognising of the more services of those who took up arms et that time wusn entirely ttiturent thing. It wee almost " I surd to talk of that its a campaign. The ab _ fair that took piece within s short distance ' of Toronto could scarcely be called sn se- i tion. He read of Jarvis' pickets firing s I volley " the insurgcnu, who took to their ; heels and ran " es quickly as possible. l Their speed was not exceeded by Jnrvis' men, who else took to their heels, not after l the insurgents, but in nite another direction. (Laughter.) (Ill',',',', utter- wards, when Col. Fitzgibbon and his force marched ageinst the enemy, there wss scarcely my enemy there. When they got " far es Montgomery's they found s ew insurgents and tired st them, but there wss only one men killed, and there was no return tire from the insurgents, who had no ridos, and were only srnied with pikes and pitchforks. submit to the state of things which had existed and which there seemed to be no reuonnbie prospect oi being improved. NOT nu: PROPER rum He entirely disagreed with the hon. mem- ber u to the proper place for this mutter to be distrumed, manning that it In proper fr. expe<_i.i_ent that my netion_ should. be mvsmt's AMENDMBN'L RIDGIWAY lt EROFS. [ majority or tholViariiiir" 5'21'd lrgx'cipg Ite famed)! :vancos under which the " some your" prior to pc'ovhi i999 rebellion in the resolutiJn foam!" _ Thy .he mem. him that Mr. Whitney accused Mr. Gibson of'en- deuvoriug to rouse warmth of feeling over this question. He failed to see why the House was occupied for Gli so hour not in discussing the merits of the question, bue I with n repetition of historicsl facts plus tht personal record of his hon. friend, which . by the way was s creditsble one. He said ' the Provincial Secretory had not dealt fairly with the question. but and dodged it. He said that the Attorney-General in 1885 i moved s resolution thst .. this House cor- , dislly recognises the services of the veterans of 1837," and asked what he thought of the Provincial Secretary's resolution. The re- solution simply ssked the House to recog- niso in some way the services of those veteran, of whom he was glad to know the I AtAorntrfieneml vvss one. i 2urlrarttenbtotutohrr. A similar motion was presented before by Mr. Broder, and on um occasion the some unfair tactics were resorted to. n ill became the Pro. vincial Secretary to sneer " those who took part in the fight near Toronto in " fence of the Government. It was imported into the discussion, it was imported by the Provincinl Secretary. The Provincial See. Mr. Meredith thought it was time this question was set, " rest. It was unfair and improper to send these people from one 1urliLuenstotusorher. A similar motion Mr. Balfour said cinnamong the survi- vors of these who repelled sn invasion from the United States in 1837 now living in Essex, there were 29 Liberals and 10 Con. trervativea. The Liberals included the man who slwnys nominated him, and on old man who tor years wns the only Liberal on Pelee Island. He would therefore have to vote for n resolution to reward their ser- vices. While he appreciated the servnces of those who struggled for responsible government, ho must, on behalf of his cou- stitnents vote in favor of the resolution. - Mr. Hiecott nid his father was one of those who endeavored to put down the re. bellion. The militia of the day were called on to at down the rebellion and they obeyed? He thought it would be a danger. ous precedent to justify a. rebellion, because there might be rebellions in future. True loyel Britons should not forget the men who turned out in defence of the country. He hoped there were enough honest, loyal, etraight' British subjects in the House to "lib those who foughtjor their country. And this view is illustrated try the consider- ation that the Dominion Parliament took cog- nisauce of the claims of the veterans of 1812. WARM?" or DISCUSSION. Mr.Clsncy regretted the course taken by the Provincisl Secretary, because the reso- lution and the remarks of the mover were moderate in tone. He accused Mr. Gibson of endesvoring to bring strife into the. de. bate. He thought that if Mr. Gibson were living in those eye and wore the Queen's uniform he would have felt himself com- pelled tango out in defence of the Govern. ment. 0 thought it would be s graceful thing to reward the few old men left. It would be impossible for the Dominion to recognise these services, because the other Provinces which hsd nothing to do with it would oppose the proposition. He denied that the resolution was an attempt to make polttietrepital. _ A - oritieiUd,itiiriGa laid he would be snow- ed under when he went beck for re-election. But he wee not. The Attorney-General on that former ooceeion aid tht the met- ter war one which belonged to the Domin- ion Government. The 1liemgtsrrians had fought in Lower Canada. If they adopted the tsuggestion of Sir John Mecdonnld and Mr. Blake, that recognition should be nought where the services were rendered, the people would have to go to Quebec for compensation. What prospect wee there of getting any there t They would come back empty-handed. There are men who were injured in '37, and who are still re. ceiving compensation from the Dominion Government. The resolution was mere clap-trap introduced to embarrass the Gov, ernment in certain quarters. He therefore moved that the following wordl be added to the amendment c--

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