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? V; C t :' "' * » _ | mefit, 1 e ' er of w ~S+ e ce y ® --crown lamds brought down and intro-- | ~ Mr.C ampell, member for Simcoe, . duced g mining law to the house the ?n':}}g"'.'fi. with _ a good r"'i"'.'ed i'mah. : session before last it received the cor-- erz.l consurin :'..4-adm_n!1:utbn in dial support of the leader of the oppo-- g"' terms, %"'""3 ns Lood gition, an<l because whenthe commission-- eal 'of pm"!:d"i'. "fi' buu n en er last session proposed amendments he | |were assemb o ribgs ':he n bc;' hi q received the assistance and support of | minister of agriculture in establis Mr. Campboll himsolf. Theré was -- not ) dairy school, where the art of butterm o one dollar of royalty to be--collec'ed from ing might be acquired. H:d found. 33';1? * anyone efgaged _ in ~mining operations with the educational expenditure, as he yntil_seren years had elapsed fror the thought high schools were fostered at / o. -- Cag the cost of the common school course, in .Me that he had located his . e"end ; which the masses were so deeply inter-- commenced operationst Another feature | ested.. The ~government, he thought, of the Jaw. favorable to t~c miner'iwa~ should not receive so much credit for the small Sum that was exrcted to get the good prices paid for the timber lim-- i free title to mining lands. T6 anyone its, as the price was regulated entirely who earnestly proposed -- to engage in by the law of supply and demand. While mining operations jn this vrovincenei-- deploring the claims of the government to ther the royalty nor 'the price per acre a large surplus, he promised that his would be any barrier to him. "Mr. | side of the house would back up the treas-- . | Campbelt _ had also round 'fault | urer in his defermination to recover from S the. timber policy. The tim-- the Dominion government the provincial ¥ policy of the government trust funds held by them. c was a policy which was pursued in ac-- Mr. Garrow, member for West Huron, cordance with the desire of the members was warmly applauded when he arose of the house. If it could be established to take part in the debate. Mr. Garrow that favoritism had been shown there is not in the habit of jumping up on would be good cause to change the sys-- every issue, and as his reputation for . tem of selling timber limits; but that good judgment is high he always receives bad not been proved. Both the present a close hearing. He did not intend, he commigsioner and his predecessor had sald, to go very deeply into figures. It given evidence of their concern for the was a pretty difficult job to deal with a interesis of the people. Mr. Hardy at the question of arithmetic from a party sale in October last had withdrawn a lot standpoint. That was the foundation er-- of timber when otherwise it would have ror in a discussion such as was proceed-- been -- knocked down to _ a supporter ing. It was admitted by both sides of of the govornment at a price which the the house that we had a substantial cash commissioner did not consider suflicient; surplus, and we have an immense asset while Mr. Pardeo, in doflance of the most in the timber resources of the province, influential lumbermen of the province, Suppose even that we had a small debt. had increased the stumpage dues and the What then ? In what position does this bonus per mile. Mr. MeCleary bad suid province of Ontario stand as com-- that the government. led the people to pared _ with _ the _ other provincei believe that they had in the treasury or_ _ with __ the _ Dominion | itself ! something which they had not. If any The PDominion had heaped up a debt of one upon the opposition side of the house $300,000,000. Quebec had started even with --or on the Liberal side, for that matter--* ontario and 'had P iA d("b.t of $20,000:000, could substantiate the statement that the puaying in interest alone $15,000 annually. moneys put down in the treasurers Was it not a fact that other provinces statement of the assets of the province | were going back at the rate of from were not the assets of the province--that a million to half a million dollars per there were no drainage debentures in-- year ? Ontario was able to present a mag-- vested, that the Dominion bonds men-- nificent showing. What they~ claimed was tioned were not in existence, or that the that at the end of twenty years the Mow-- capital held by the Dominion for the at administration was able, instead of a province has no foundation _ in deficit, to exhibjit a 'good surplas. This fact and the Dominion is not was something for which not only the liable to the province _ for it, then government side, but also the opposition, Mr. McCleary's remark was correct ; but degerved credit. They ought to be proud unless it could be establishec. that state-- that they had been able to'assict the pProl ment and others like it wors untrue. virce in reaching that glorious financial Continuing, Mr. Waters said that noth-- i( ed Faot that o must naveanenditures ing concerned us more intimately than nized fact that we must have expenditures our financial position. He showed that for civil government, and whenca w]""" when the Sandfield Macdonald adminis-- the Ne us for this purpose to ed' e; |tration was in power they pledged one rived ? If the government did not dea and a half million dollars for railway wiecly :and carefully with the Uimber re-- bonuses, and this had not been paid serves, where could they look to for' rev-- 'when the present government assumed enue unless they resorted to direct taxa-- POffice. Altogether there had been 6%-- tion ?° Tt was in their own interests, as pended for the encouragement of the well as in the interests of the country railways of the province $6,206,267. This gencrally, that due tare should be takon expenditure was largely the cause of the | of all the sources of revenue. The sys-- prosperity of this country--aiding. the tem of disposing of timber limits to the opening up of the different sections, and bhighest bidder was one that commended affording facilities for conveying produce itself to the good ijindgment of all, and it to market. The Macdonald government would be difficult to improve upon it. The had left a surplus of three million dollars, |revenue having been obtained, it was a and this amount had since been distrib-- paramount duty to see that it was c-con: uted to the municipalities. On coloniza-- omically expended, 'Now, it was very easy tion roads the province had ¢expended the for hon. members»pposite t(_' occupy t'h" | large sum of $2,229,901, and Mr. Waters position of destructive critics, but it was \ went on to justify the expenditure for their duty to fully investigate the expen-- charitable institutions. In 1878 the num-- diture, to point out extravagance, bit by ber of inmates in the asylums was 2,149, bit and item by item, instead of declar-- and at the present time the number was "}"* In "e"""'"t terms x"t"'.:"" :1::3rT':':':§ 29,085. The cost pe ( the government was e agant. ® $135, while ]?ut ylc-arr r;:axlwg'?::?ra{:{ ;;,1?; members--(6ppositton )----were inqustrious t a trifling increase for that long period. and able. and had discharged their duty | He gave figures showing that the gov-- as well as they could. Where had they ernment had very liberally aided educa-- shown extravazance ? It must be un-- { tion and public bodies, thereby greatly earthed in detail. It had not been, and | relieving the municipalities. He had made therefore they must assume. that it could a calculation to find the expenditure per not be, and all the talk about extrava« head of the population for legislation and gance must go for nothing. Members of clvil government, and based on the cen-- the opposition could have ample time and sus of 1881 it amounted to $3 31, or 15 faucilities if they desired to investiqate the eents per head. annually, He did not various items of expenditur», and in the | think that the people of Ontario could large expenditures for the erection of pub-- 1 complain of such a low rate of taxation. lic buildings they had not brought to light 1 It was a rather remarkable thing that any evidence of wrong--doing or over--ex-- ' thel gov~--rament should be in existence penditure. (Applause.) | so long, and it was a somewhat singular * thing that in spite of all the ch::'lges 4 NB We I made the people of the province had not Mr. Solomon White, member for Essex, ' taken it into their heads to turn that ne«xt took the floor. and proceeded to wovernment out. What was the reason ? prove that the Sandfield Macdonald ad-- Well, the reason was that the great ma-- ministration had been much more econo-- jority, of the electors believed that the mical than the prese it government. From government was administering the af-- 1867 to 18M the Macdonal® administration | fairs of the province in the interests of had expended for civil government a all classes, without partiality or favor. total of $381.,665. . During the following ](A;:,plnus;x.) hHe complimented the hon,. four years, 1872 to 1875, when the Jjberals eader of the opposition on Wis abilit C and integrity, but called attention to th: $nto power they expended é';l ;)J:'_a_t utter inability' of either him or his fol= o on, o it Aniis uns cin the lowers to find any very serious defect in | bm"c' doublng the expenditure. 05 the government's policy: or administra-- almo8 ; yars the hon. gentlemen oppU: tion. last foU ended $8$88.210 on civil goY we nad f? tisfy | . gite i. He hoped this would satis emmen w h Ravr