The Ontario Scrapbook Hansard

Ontario Scrapbook Hansard, 5 Mar 1894, p. 3

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I ' . . . I. _ - _---.--"- o o . ("than =-"'I'ho council C l - fg' to be a body corporate. 'l',U'll'l'g placed on the building. The 003mg, - .. and in" land and personal prop-3. urged by Mr. Meredith on this score wouli . do' ".or the mar H of the lotion; _ ttppl, with equal strength to the attairs , , W tteil, mortgage, leue or "aiiiGriii; ot tuty Corporate body or municipality In -, .n ' of the "we; and tUI property, "a" the Province. Whether or not there had '.' " tttat, heretofore vested in or heldp been some delay on the part of the Gov- , Fthe mculture and Arts Allocilmion- ernment in collecting from Mr. Jamiescn ;_ . _ continue to be vested in the laid the amount due from him was on _ , willochxtlon and under the control ot the thing. The amount of rent paid by hin - "Mull thereof." 'Dhe buildinK Under dig. to the association and the interest pail n orWnated from the savings of the by the association on a mortgage were on _ lit . tion when they were holding shows tireiy different matters. The Governmen ' vuloua parts of the Provlnc e. It was would have their hands full it they un- . , erected entirely out of their own funds dertook to conduct the affairs at owl-y ' The Goettragtteggtand had no control over corporation of the Province. Because the it. 'M . I" . Government made an annual grant to the ', . .. " ., .m h !,il'itlti't,9tis, association they were not responsible tor . . H ,. - w oeAtrrtetuttttm Walt mo" ': its transactions any more than the tie. Ps . ._ _ a. "whaed when the mat- "\ partment ot Education because it gave a - 'N w" KN, Med out in the Public Ae-' grant to a High School was responsible _', p 1 '- -mittee Mr. Jamieson denied I for the proceedings of the Trustees of the I f '1; liable (35 tha. m mm": by r lehool. _ A; _', [. .. red the Government Mr. Meredith-Ir this association is dis- ?" b ", c sum that he said he ought solved, where does the property go 'f _ 't , Day. This was not accepted. Since that Hon. Mt. Fraser-supposing any £1590- l we Mr. Jamie-son had spent a good den] elation dissolves what becomes of its pro- I' . money on the building. Shortly after pony ? lull money was expended he spent $2,000 or Mr. Meredith-That is no answer. , n . fl? in Alterations, and in 1892 he spent. as Hon. Mr. Fraser-That is the answer l Wr . "Md. some $7,000 ill] Improviatr the 1q'ig1",,tr,)1tlt; . - Pe,,',',',',; and these improvements. by -iG i he order was then passed. ' ntrement with the Agriculture n P " Arts Association. were to remain sl,',',",',',,,",,",',,' PHIP, MUNV, IPAL ACT. lease ended. In consideration of thos. illl- Mr. Tait'st bill to "mi? d th . e' \DI'OVements th ' F ' . . n e munYipa t, e rent "as reduced when the not "us then taken up, and after a ver ' .orlzinal lease expired in 1892. Under the briiaf uiscurslon read a "W time. Th moment then entered into Mr. Jatrito- principal changes in the municlrlm lax (on undertook to heat the building Form- proitcsed is the irivinar pow~r to cities t . Sti'giet,l',e, Shivernment 11,d, this. Now Air. pay" Aldermen. It also changes the reiru- , ' n it ail himeelf, the Agriculture lutmns weanling riuestit ns that nlav b- :and Arts Aasocttttion paying him $2u n submitlnd to the popular vote. Mr "pr. . month for six months of the year for he-at. dilh (-llmrllvnlull (in the important-e. J? th " the portion of the premisus used by Jitest propoutitl, and hoped it wold be tho" f , Wills tUt,',')', 703:", :11 Jamiean has ii-i'illil) lii'ii-lii'il in the House. Mr Hard ' no more an ormerly. He now said some of the wo oNtl.S . .' _ . Paid $2,000 etott annually for the life of the a.nd would have tlo b2 'it,',?,',,'?,?;?,:",",,',,',',';:,',.:,'), 2 F.' i . The Government had no contrcl Tho bill was then read n second time an ' the association. Mr. Meredith said referred to the Municipal Committee. . a . Government were paying interest on . ' the mortgage on the-building. Pl'liLi(' AND HIGH SCHOOLS. y, . ffi, Meredith-Practically, it is the same o/"isJr,il"'"t',", mover: the second read". ', thin . .. I " amour e ' t [ Mr. Dryden-Not at all. The association act. Tho feature of tilt;] hillluigliio :3ng rented the building for $2,000 annually, and new School hoards in new»; or luv l" "t - ttttgreat annually. The Government hundred thousan] people iiG, oi))?',.',.", A "In not consulted in the matter. The as- revert to tho Public School BO'F'ls Si , ['l'rtlioll, was an entirely independent body, Ryorscm sitld there Wits' " "mg: lee"; 4 on he had shown them. With regard to in favor of the step he t',"uiicrt'di."'r'tis b l the $2,000. which appeared from the public . C 1" accounts in was as due from the awowia- tesult, he thought. would be the preventi ' tion, and was not found In the "(.mumu ' of the present overlapping between t of the following year, he found from two a.vstems of schools. It "as also a record of the minutes or the association 'thought if there was one.board there Would . in mm a committee of the council be more unity of method. It would also of the association was appointed to wait idea's-use expense, some of the special om- upcu the Government and ask that the 'cus of one or other of the boards being sum named be remitted, urging as u. . rendered unnecessary by the amalgama- tgrqund tllo'fefor that ttur nee-oc'intion had ltion. in Hamilton. London, L'eiieviiie, some years previously u-dwmced 34.00 for Guelph and other cities there were united additions to the Agricultural College. A . boards ot education. which worked well in moan minute stated that an Giswt.r every way. It was easy enough under 'Ild been received that the amount had the present law tor united bcards to separ- been dcmltted with the consent of the ate, but it was impossible for them to unite Legislature, Mr. Dryden added that tho when separated. The proposed union would money expended by the association n; be in the interest of both. l connection with the building had been he Hon. Mr. Ross said he sympathizcd ' - , with an idea to establishing with the object, of Dr. Ryerson's bill, butl il 'e I. dppartment of veterinary seience did not care tor its form. He was in favor l l " w h. however, had not been done. As of the union of the two boards wherever . _ T [: lotion therefore reaped no benefit it could be accomplished, but did nut wantl . . ' the additions the council had thought to see the High School Board absorbed by l Hi7iaGUiji/, to ask this compensation. that of the "ublic School. For many: ls Mr. Meredith said the Minister of Aeri- years (before Le was identitied with the» culture based his remarks mainly on (the Department of Education it had been the ' point that the building belonged to the policy of that department that unions ot Agriculture and Arts Association. Surelv these boards tshould not take place. He he said. the Government must have some was not himself theoretically 'opposed to control over the property of the as.Ho:.la- l, such union. That was, however. the policy -tion to which it made at grant of $10,000 " , of the department when he took charge. year. It the association in question l and he was advised by a good many emin- , "ould so out of existence would tho pm- I ent educationists to continue it. He had Vince have no claim whatever on it build.. i watched the effect of union in the caSC'S Ing which was valued at some WOW" 9 l where it existed in the ten years since he Would it belch: to the few gentlemen." ho had been at the head of the department, . constituted the board ? Surviy not. but and was how satistied that what the if the Government had no control over tho boards accomplished separately could Just Agriculture and Arts Association' whv "-1; _ as weil be accomplished as a. united cor- money advanced to it in the tlrst in"; poration. He would not be averse loan and why was the debt subsecucntlv do: amendment which would admit of union. mitted ? It seemed to him the whom pro- But he thought they should allow those i ceeding was marked by gross mlsmanage- interested In the different High and Public ment. The Government appoarwl t] Schools to settle for themselves whether think they could do entirely as oy,', or not they should work together. Dr. pleased with the property of the brown": 1tycrson's bill did not propose that, but and that members of the Assembly q". ' proposed that the High School Boom 1y gathered here to register pro 1? I','..- should be absorbed by the Public School their decrees. orma . Br ard. That was not the operation of the ', Mr. A. F. Wood Spoke for a momon law in other cases where united boards ' only on the subject. Ho smd it was yy existed already. The united boards con- dent the transttction had been mark} , l)" a sisted of various elements ; the Publte gross mismanagement and he (":1 n 1 y School Board simply of Trustees elected turd the answer of the Minister or"\ FL by the people. Ile objeeted to the absorp- culture as at all satisfactory " trrl. tion of the High School Board. No corn- Han. Mr. 'Ross said the main o tl plaint had been made against u. The two Mr. Meredith's remarks were 3. r on of large High Schools erected in the city un- tirely on a wrong assumption T113" en- der its supervision were models for the culture and Arts Association'w e,A""' Province. He had no objection, however, Donate body which rented a Jle a cor- to saying that when next amending the. building to the Government pry}, "h' ot its High and Public Schools act he would eub- l ment had no control over the reif'fmm mit an amendment allowing the two cor- .,ed other tenants. nor over morfhurg' pomuons to unite and work together when I gages they chose. ,

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